Vista - Corrupted Registry?

I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system settings,
application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista machine. It
all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner (version
2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal registry
entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had only 3
entries I hadn’t cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in all my
many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has happened and
need some guidance as to how to proceed.

do not use registry cleaners!!!!

you wont gain much performance from them anyway..

if you insist on using one.. check out ccleaner
that cleans the drives from junk files too



"LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1EAC1407-8461-434E-B291-866565678649@microsoft.com...
>I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system
>settings,
> application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista machine.
> It
> all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner (version
> 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal
> registry
> entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had only
> 3
> entries I hadn't cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in all
> my
> many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
> deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has happened
> and
> need some guidance as to how to proceed.

"Tiberius" wrote:

> do not use registry cleaners!!!!
>
> you wont gain much performance from them anyway..
>
> if you insist on using one.. check out ccleaner
> that cleans the drives from junk files too
>
>
>
> "LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1EAC1407-8461-434E-B291-866565678649@microsoft.com...
> >I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system
> >settings,
> > application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista machine.
> > It
> > all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner (version
> > 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal
> > registry
> > entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had only
> > 3
> > entries I hadn't cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in all
> > my
> > many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
> > deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has happened
> > and
> > need some guidance as to how to proceed.
>
>
> That may be good advice in general but it doesn't help me decide what to do with my current situation.

well what do you want to do?

You are saying that the registry problems were created because of the
transfer wizard? Imp not sure that this happens because I do all transfers
manually.

If this is indeed the case just do a system restore

To read about system restore and how to start it
press the help and support on the start menu and type
system restore, then what is system restore
and if you decide to do it, click on the
Click to open system restore link on that help page.

This will revert the registry to a time BEFORE you did the transfer
therefore it will be clean...

I would suggest you do all the transfers manually and
not use a cleaner, unless you really really know what you are doing and you
can decide if the changes it will make are good or not.




"LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EBCB4109-A03B-4F3B-92D3-04DC92645C04@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>
>> do not use registry cleaners!!!!
>>
>> you wont gain much performance from them anyway..
>>
>> if you insist on using one.. check out ccleaner
>> that cleans the drives from junk files too
>>
>>
>>
>> "LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1EAC1407-8461-434E-B291-866565678649@microsoft.com...
>> >I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system
>> >settings,
>> > application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista
>> > machine.
>> > It
>> > all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner
>> > (version
>> > 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal
>> > registry
>> > entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had
>> > only
>> > 3
>> > entries I hadn't cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in
>> > all
>> > my
>> > many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
>> > deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has
>> > happened
>> > and
>> > need some guidance as to how to proceed.
>>
>>
>> That may be good advice in general but it doesn't help me decide what to
>> do with my current situation.

"LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:EBCB4109-A03B-4F3B-92D3-04DC92645C04@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Tiberius" wrote:
>
>> do not use registry cleaners!!!!
>>
>> you wont gain much performance from them anyway..
>>
>> if you insist on using one.. check out ccleaner
>> that cleans the drives from junk files too
>>
>>
>>
>> "LarCrow" <LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1EAC1407-8461-434E-B291-866565678649@microsoft.com...
>> >I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system
>> >settings,
>> > application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista
>> > machine.
>> > It
>> > all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner
>> > (version
>> > 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal
>> > registry
>> > entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had
>> > only
>> > 3
>> > entries I hadn't cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in
>> > all
>> > my
>> > many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
>> > deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has
>> > happened
>> > and
>> > need some guidance as to how to proceed.
>>
>>
>> That may be good advice in general but it doesn't help me decide what to
>> do with my current situation.


Are you experiencing any problems that may be related to the registry? I
would second the advice to ignore what the registry cleaner program is
telling you and uninstall it. If you are experiencing some problems post the
details here and someone will help you fix them without the "aid" of a
registry cleaner.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

LarCrow wrote:
> I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system settings,
> application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista machine. It
> all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner (version
> 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal registry
> entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had only 3
> entries I hadn’t cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in all my
> many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
> deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has happened and
> need some guidance as to how to proceed.


Once you've irretrievably damaged the registry by using a snake oil
registry "cleaner," and if you cannot restore the registry from the
backup you made before running the "cleaner," your next step is to try a
repair installation. If that doesn't help, format the hard drive and
start over.



--

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"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> LarCrow wrote:
> > I just used a program called PC mover to transfer all of my system settings,
> > application programs and data from my XP machine to my new Vista machine. It
> > all appeared to go pretty well. However when I ran Easy Cleaner (version
> > 2.0.6.380) on the new machine I was surprised to find 1100 illegal registry
> > entries. I checked my old machine and at the time of transfer I had only 3
> > entries I hadn’t cleaned out. I've never seen anything like that in all my
> > many uses of Easy Cleaner and while I normally assume EC is correct and
> > deltete all the entries in this case I think something else has happened and
> > need some guidance as to how to proceed.
>
>
> Once you've irretrievably damaged the registry by using a snake oil
> registry "cleaner," and if you cannot restore the registry from the
> backup you made before running the "cleaner," your next step is to try a
> repair installation. If that doesn't help, format the hard drive and
> start over.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
>

I appriciate the responses but am surprised at the attitude taken about
registry cleaners. Now I'm just an old duffer who relies a quite a bit on
adice from the "experts". For several years I have subscribed to the
Langalist newsletter written by someone who seems to be pretty knowledgable
and who writes in a way that I can often understand. His conistent advice
ofver the yeas has been to to use a registry cleaner and specifically one
called Easy Cleaner. I have used it and probably have cleaned out 1000s of
lines of supposedly worthless entrie sin the register data that accumulated.
But this time was different, I was now using Vista and the quantitty is
huge. I guess I'm surprised that none of you think it's wise , or worthwhile
to keep the registry clean.

One of you ak what is it I want to do? I'd really want to delte all those
entries and move on, but I'm concerned that somewhere in this PCMove software
process that what might appear to be errouneous or illegal entries are in
fact good stuff. I n retrospect I should have made sure that Easy Cleaner
has been validated with Vista but I am currently trying to determine that. I
guess I was hoping that one of you might have had an experiene like it.

On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:44:01 -0700, LarCrow
<LarCrow@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I appriciate the responses but am surprised at the attitude taken about
>registry cleaners. Now I'm just an old duffer who relies a quite a bit on
>adice from the "experts". For several years I have subscribed to the
>Langalist newsletter written by someone who seems to be pretty knowledgable
>and who writes in a way that I can often understand. His conistent advice
>ofver the yeas has been to to use a registry cleaner and specifically one
>called Easy Cleaner. I have used it and probably have cleaned out 1000s of
>lines of supposedly worthless entrie sin the register data that accumulated.
> But this time was different, I was now using Vista and the quantitty is
>huge. I guess I'm surprised that none of you think it's wise , or worthwhile
>to keep the registry clean.



Here are the issues as I (and I think most of us) see it:

1. Despite what many people (and especially vendors of registry
cleaners) tell you, in the vast majority of cases unused registry
entries don't really slow you down or hurt you in any way. They waste
a tiny amount of disk space, and that's all.

2. Nobody claims that every time you use a registry cleaner, you screw
up your entire computer. However, every time you use a registry
cleaner, you run the *risk* that you will screw something up (worst
case, you could render the entire computer unbootable).

It's a lose-lose situation and is a bad bargain. It makes no sense to
run any risk at all for no prospect of gain.

by the way, I am *not a fan of Fred Langa's, and if I were you, I'd be
very wary of taking his advice unless it was otherwise corroborated.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:44:01 -0700, LarCrow wrote:

>
> I appriciate the responses but am surprised at the attitude taken about
> registry cleaners. Now I'm just an old duffer who relies a quite a bit on
> adice from the "experts". For several years I have subscribed to the
> Langalist newsletter written by someone who seems to be pretty knowledgable
> and who writes in a way that I can often understand. His conistent advice
> ofver the yeas has been to to use a registry cleaner and specifically one
> called Easy Cleaner. I have used it and probably have cleaned out 1000s of
> lines of supposedly worthless entrie sin the register data that accumulated.
> But this time was different, I was now using Vista and the quantitty is
> huge. I guess I'm surprised that none of you think it's wise , or worthwhile
> to keep the registry clean.

It'd be much more wise and worthwhile if MS could learn to not need a
registry. Dumping all eggs into one basket like Windows does with it's
registry is not really a good idea.

>
> One of you ak what is it I want to do? I'd really want to delte all those
> entries and move on, but I'm concerned that somewhere in this PCMove software
> process that what might appear to be errouneous or illegal entries are in
> fact good stuff. I n retrospect I should have made sure that Easy Cleaner
> has been validated with Vista but I am currently trying to determine that. I
> guess I was hoping that one of you might have had an experiene like it.

No experience with registry cleaners here. Registry doesn't even exist. =)

MS Really needs to get rid of the buggy, error-prone registry that is just
a disaster waiting for a time to happen.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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"Stephan Rose" wrote:

> On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:44:01 -0700, LarCrow wrote:
>
> >
> > I appriciate the responses but am surprised at the attitude taken about
> > registry cleaners. Now I'm just an old duffer who relies a quite a bit on
> > adice from the "experts". For several years I have subscribed to the
> > Langalist newsletter written by someone who seems to be pretty knowledgable
> > and who writes in a way that I can often understand. His conistent advice
> > ofver the yeas has been to to use a registry cleaner and specifically one
> > called Easy Cleaner. I have used it and probably have cleaned out 1000s of
> > lines of supposedly worthless entrie sin the register data that accumulated.
> > But this time was different, I was now using Vista and the quantitty is
> > huge. I guess I'm surprised that none of you think it's wise , or worthwhile
> > to keep the registry clean.
>
> It'd be much more wise and worthwhile if MS could learn to not need a
> registry. Dumping all eggs into one basket like Windows does with it's
> registry is not really a good idea.
>
> >
> > One of you ak what is it I want to do? I'd really want to delte all those
> > entries and move on, but I'm concerned that somewhere in this PCMove software
> > process that what might appear to be errouneous or illegal entries are in
> > fact good stuff. I n retrospect I should have made sure that Easy Cleaner
> > has been validated with Vista but I am currently trying to determine that. I
> > guess I was hoping that one of you might have had an experiene like it.
>
> No experience with registry cleaners here. Registry doesn't even exist. =)
>
> MS Really needs to get rid of the buggy, error-prone registry that is just
> a disaster waiting for a time to happen.
>
> --
> Stephan
> 2003 Yamaha R6
>
> ������出�日�ん�����
> ����忘れ�������ら
>

Thanks to all who attmepted to educate me on the value of registry cleaners.
For the time being I guess Ill just leave the reigistry alone and see if I
have any major problems downstream.