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Harry Krause wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Homer Schwartz wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just want to educate the users here in the Vista forum. You know
>>>> the guy who always wants to give an alternative to Vista, the Mr.
>>>> Ubuntu guy, (I won't say his name but his initials are 'Alias') says
>>>> he is just educating Vista users for alternatives.
>>>>
>>>> Read this
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2124099,00.asp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Like the reviewer said..."Feisty Fawn" indeed. I think "Crappy Cow"
>>> is more like it."
>>> Ouch!
>>> Frank
>>
>> It figures you would like that quote. The guy doesn't know what he's
>> doing. I, a non expert, solved all the problems he had without having
>> to move anything Windows over to Linux. All I needed is my data to be
>> up an running.
>>
>> I am watching a DVD right now. I have flash, java etc. The guy is
>> about as lame as you, Frankie boy.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> I didn't know anything about VISTA when I popped its install disc into
> my DVD/CD drive. It took care of business and as it was finishing up, it
> presented a couple of simple questions for me to answer. When it
> finished, EVERY piece of hardware I have was installed by the OS, except
> for my scanner, and a quick Q&A here took care of that, too.

I had the same experience with Ubuntu but I didn't have to pay $800 US
dollars to have it.

>
> I find no compelling reason to switch to LINUX. Further, most of the
> LINUX priests who post are as obnoxious as you are, providing additional
> reasons not to switch over.

You were planning to install a Linux user? How would you go about doing
that? Or are you just using the typical MS user tactic of going after
the messenger in a lame attempt to discredit the message?

>
> Have a nice day.

Advantages of Linux over Windows:

It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.

No viruses

No malware

No need for an anti virus program

No need for a software firewall

No need for anti malware programs

No activation

No WGA, in all of its flavors

No DRM.

No need to buy new, expensive hardware.

I am having a nice day.

Alias

Alias wrote:

>
> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>
> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>
> No viruses
>
> No malware
>
> No need for an anti virus program
>
> No need for a software firewall
>
> No need for anti malware programs
>
> No activation
>
> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>
> No DRM.
>
> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>
> I am having a nice day.
>
> Alias

All lies!
You're a known liar.
No more lies!
Linux loser.
Get a life.
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>
>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>
>> No viruses
>>
>> No malware
>>
>> No need for an anti virus program
>>
>> No need for a software firewall
>>
>> No need for anti malware programs
>>
>> No activation
>>
>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>
>> No DRM.
>>
>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>
>> I am having a nice day.
>>
>> Alias
>
> All lies!

A lie.

> You're a known liar.

Another lie.

> No more lies!

Yeah, when will you stop?

> Linux loser.

I haven't lost *anything*.

> Get a life.
> Frank

I have one, thank you very much and I love living it.

Alias

GO wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>>Alias wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>>
>>>It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>>>Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>>>Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>>
>>>No viruses
>>>
>>>No malware
>>>
>>>No need for an anti virus program
>>>
>>>No need for a software firewall
>>>
>>>No need for anti malware programs
>>>
>>>No activation
>>>
>>>No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>>
>>>No DRM.
>>>
>>>No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>>
>>>I am having a nice day.
>>>
>>>Alias
>>
>>All lies!
>>You're a known liar.
>>No more lies!
>>Linux loser.
>>Get a life.
>>Frank
>
>
> Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
> enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.
>
>

Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
Frank

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>>
>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>
>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>
>> No viruses
>>
>> No malware
>>
>> No need for an anti virus program
>>
>> No need for a software firewall
>>
>> No need for anti malware programs
>>
>> No activation
>>
>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>
>> No DRM.
>>
>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>
>> I am having a nice day.
>>
>> Alias
>
> All lies!
> You're a known liar.
> No more lies!
> Linux loser.
> Get a life.
> Frank

Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but I know
enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented facts.

Em Quarta, 20 de Junho de 2007 16:07, Alias escreveu:

> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>
> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>
> No viruses
>
> No malware
>
> No need for an anti virus program
>
> No need for a software firewall
>
> No need for anti malware programs
>
> No activation
>
> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>
> No DRM.
>
> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>
> I am having a nice day.
>
> Alias


Adding:

--Multi-language... we can have 100 diferent users in the same system, each
one with using a diferent language... with windows they're stick to just
one except if they bye a special windows MUI and even with that, they are
stick to less then 20 languages.

--Easyer to use after everything configured, and only needs to configure
once.

--Doesn't lie to the user and never treat the user like a dog... while
windows says that a unix floppy is not formated, a lie, it is formated and
have information in there, stupid windows just can not read it. Windows
crash by inself and after that it ass-rapes the user saying that he didn't
shutdown the pc as he should.

--No frangmentation of disks.

--Kids can use it, kids with 2-3 years old... while in windows... kaput,
reinstall or pray that the system restore work once more. I know this by
years of experience... in my windows days, i was allways afraid to let kids
of this age play with the computer... now, with linux, no problem...
and they have lots and lots of games to play.

--Permission system really works, while in windows is a joke... how come
that parental control doesn't work when using firefox? who does the control
anyway? vista or the browser ? so vista's parental control only works if
the browser is compatible... the same way that permissions only block virus
if those virus are made to be compatible with the system.

--Doesn't have to have the same look&fell

--Brings free programs to do everything that a computer can do, we only
install extra progs if we want to.

--Pushes the user to learn about computers, while windows push then to be
ignorant.

--When it does not support (by is own) some hardware it allways inform the
user about what hardware it is, while windows usualy says it is a "vga
graphics adapter" when it is a "SIS chip", or "microsoft sound system" when
in fact it is a "yamaha opl chip". When configuring harware, it makes a lot
of diference.


and so on and on... i've been using linux for 4 years now, before that i
used windows, and still do at work... i know both systems a i could be
writing things like this for a week.

Regards

Frank wrote:
> GO wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>>>
>>>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>>>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>>>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>>>
>>>> No viruses
>>>>
>>>> No malware
>>>>
>>>> No need for an anti virus program
>>>>
>>>> No need for a software firewall
>>>>
>>>> No need for anti malware programs
>>>>
>>>> No activation
>>>>
>>>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>>>
>>>> No DRM.
>>>>
>>>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>>>
>>>> I am having a nice day.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> All lies!
>>> You're a known liar.
>>> No more lies!
>>> Linux loser.
>>> Get a life.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but
>> I know enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented
>> facts.
>>
>>
>
> Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
> Frank

Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.

GO wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>
>>GO wrote:
>>
>>>Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>>>>
>>>>>It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>>>>>Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>>>>>Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>>>>
>>>>>No viruses
>>>>>
>>>>>No malware
>>>>>
>>>>>No need for an anti virus program
>>>>>
>>>>>No need for a software firewall
>>>>>
>>>>>No need for anti malware programs
>>>>>
>>>>>No activation
>>>>>
>>>>>No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>>>>
>>>>>No DRM.
>>>>>
>>>>>No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am having a nice day.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alias
>>>>
>>>>All lies!
>>>>You're a known liar.
>>>>No more lies!
>>>>Linux loser.
>>>>Get a life.
>>>>Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but
>>>I know enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented
>>>facts.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
>>Frank
>
>
> Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.
>
>
Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
need for a software firewall".
Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
you feel safe...well do you punk?
Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
software firewall?
Hummm...good question huh?
Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
for it.
You'a think?
Frank

Em Quinta, 21 de Junho de 2007 03:08, Frank escreveu:

>>
> Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
> need for a software firewall".
> Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
> you feel safe...well do you punk?
> Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
> firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
> software firewall?
linux firewall is inserted in the kernel (the core of the OS), there is no
need to install a program to do the firewalling...
this way is safer, a standalone software firewall may crash and stop working
leaving the system unsafe, while if the core crash, everything stops
working, no machine responding to attacks anymore.

those programs you might have saw like firestarter, guarddog, etc... are not
the firewall, they are just script generators to set firewall preferencies,
those programs are opened to set something in the firewall and then closed
after setting... they are not the firewall, and they do not need to be
running full time like the firewalls for windows.


> Hummm...good question huh?
got it, huh?


> Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
well said... i've seen you dying a lot around here.

regards

Frank wrote:
> GO wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>
>>> GO wrote:
>>>
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Advantages of Linux over Windows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's free and Vista is way overpriced, especially in Europe. Retail
>>>>>> Ultimate, for example, goes for over 800 US Dollars and Office 2007
>>>>>> Retail Ultimate goes for over 1200 US Dollars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No viruses
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No malware
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need for an anti virus program
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need for a software firewall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need for anti malware programs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No activation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No WGA, in all of its flavors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No DRM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No need to buy new, expensive hardware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am having a nice day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> All lies!
>>>>> You're a known liar.
>>>>> No more lies!
>>>>> Linux loser.
>>>>> Get a life.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Care to demonstrate how they are all lies? I'm a Linux newbie but
>>>> I know enough to say all of Alias' statements are well documented
>>>> facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Then you'll probably be in for a big surprise someday.
>>> Frank
>>
>>
>> Good job! Way to prove how any of the statements are false.
>>
>>
> Well I'll just take one example for instance. When the clown said..."No
> need for a software firewall".
> Fine with me. But you just got to ask yourself one question punk...do
> you feel safe...well do you punk?
> Then ask yourself if in fact, as you believe, there is no need for a
> firewall as he said, and you concurred...then why does it come with a
> software firewall?
> Hummm...good question huh?
> Well..best to know what you're talking about before you commit to die
> for it.
> You'a think?
> Frank
Why does vista come with an outbound firewall that by default needs to
first be configured before it is of any use. The iptables firewall is
included, if I read correctly, in all iterations of linux, and it too
has to be configured before it is of any use. If one wants to use
either, one must be prepared to configure first. So in reality, both
vista and linux include a firewall, but neither are internet ready in
all (in the case of vista) or any (in the case of ubuntu) in their
installed state.

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