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Old 06-23-2007   #1 (permalink)
Flagreen


 
 

Why? It's driving me nuts!

I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware problem
Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
causing this problem.

Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has to
scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to chnage
this behavior?

When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble! Someone
help!

Bill

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Old 06-24-2007   #2 (permalink)
Not Me


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

Many times it is not the OS, but your AV.
In antivirus, do you have...scan before opening checked?

"Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4DCC9B53-3D27-4273-936D-6767592E90AB@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
> 800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
> seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware
> problem
> Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
> causing this problem.
>
> Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has
> to
> scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
> waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
> also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
> tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
> difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to
> chnage
> this behavior?
>
> When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble!
> Someone
> help!
>
> Bill



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #3 (permalink)
Flagreen


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

Well I'm not using an anti-virus program at present. But I am using Windows
Defender. I'll try turning that off and see if that's it. Thanks for the
suggestion.

Bill

"Not Me" wrote:

> Many times it is not the OS, but your AV.
> In antivirus, do you have...scan before opening checked?
>
> "Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4DCC9B53-3D27-4273-936D-6767592E90AB@microsoft.com...
> > I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
> > 800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
> > seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware
> > problem
> > Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
> > causing this problem.
> >
> > Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has
> > to
> > scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
> > waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
> > also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
> > tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
> > difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to
> > chnage
> > this behavior?
> >
> > When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble!
> > Someone
> > help!
> >
> > Bill

>
>
>

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Old 06-24-2007   #4 (permalink)
mikeyhsd


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

might try changing the customization of the folder to something other than movie/video/photo file types.
right click on folder. select Properties, then Customize tab and use the drop down menu.
also selecting a view of details may help a little as well.




mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4DCC9B53-3D27-4273-936D-6767592E90AB@microsoft.com...
I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware problem
Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
causing this problem.

Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has to
scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to chnage
this behavior?

When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble! Someone
help!

Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #5 (permalink)
Adam Albright


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:49:03 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com>
wrote:

>might try changing the customization of the folder to something other than movie/video/photo file types.
>right click on folder. select Properties, then Customize tab and use the drop down menu.
>also selecting a view of details may help a little as well.


If something is broke, your solution is just turn it off? Don't you
think people who work with video would benefit from seeing thumbnails
of their videos? Admit Windows Explorer is fatally flawed, has been
for over a decade at least and it seems Microsoft either doesn't know
how to fix it or doesn't give a rat's ass how poorly it performs.

Explorer is so damn dumb in Vista it will frequently rescan the entire
contents of some folder if you copy/move a file to it in some stupid
attempt to keep the contents in order DURING the copy or move. It
further shows how dumb it's programming is since it will stop to try
to resort during the copy/move operation instead of waiting until it
is finishing with that task in effect going back to the beginning and
start over. That's simply sloppy programming. If you copy five files,
it may do this five times during the copy phase. If you try to move 50
files, dumb as dirt Vista will try 50 times and so on. How this bow
wow ever got out the door is the real question.

I have at least a dozen applications that are capable of generating
thumbnails of videos. NONE of them are as dumb as Vista. None of them
re scan the folder during a copy or move operation. None of them are
as slow as Vista either.

Just for the heck of it I copied 10 videos first using Vista then
using XnView. In the time it took Vista to copy two files XnView
copied all ten and made thumbnails for each of them.
>
>
>
>
>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
>
>
>
> "Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4DCC9B53-3D27-4273-936D-6767592E90AB@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
> 800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
> seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware problem
> Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
> causing this problem.
>
> Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has to
> scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
> waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
> also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
> tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
> difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to chnage
> this behavior?
>
> When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble! Someone
> help!
>
> Bill


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #6 (permalink)
mikeyhsd


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

NO ONE asked about seeing thumbnails.
the OP was asking about the delay in opening folders.

learn to read.



mikeyhsd@comcast.net



"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message news:l06t7356gv68d0j6h67tp6pcab4eku1tug@4ax.com...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 08:49:03 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com>
wrote:

>might try changing the customization of the folder to something other than movie/video/photo file types.
>right click on folder. select Properties, then Customize tab and use the drop down menu.
>also selecting a view of details may help a little as well.


If something is broke, your solution is just turn it off? Don't you
think people who work with video would benefit from seeing thumbnails
of their videos? Admit Windows Explorer is fatally flawed, has been
for over a decade at least and it seems Microsoft either doesn't know
how to fix it or doesn't give a rat's ass how poorly it performs.

Explorer is so damn dumb in Vista it will frequently rescan the entire
contents of some folder if you copy/move a file to it in some stupid
attempt to keep the contents in order DURING the copy or move. It
further shows how dumb it's programming is since it will stop to try
to resort during the copy/move operation instead of waiting until it
is finishing with that task in effect going back to the beginning and
start over. That's simply sloppy programming. If you copy five files,
it may do this five times during the copy phase. If you try to move 50
files, dumb as dirt Vista will try 50 times and so on. How this bow
wow ever got out the door is the real question.

I have at least a dozen applications that are capable of generating
thumbnails of videos. NONE of them are as dumb as Vista. None of them
re scan the folder during a copy or move operation. None of them are
as slow as Vista either.

Just for the heck of it I copied 10 videos first using Vista then
using XnView. In the time it took Vista to copy two files XnView
copied all ten and made thumbnails for each of them.
>
>
>
>
>mikeyhsd@comcast.net
>
>
>
> "Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4DCC9B53-3D27-4273-936D-6767592E90AB@microsoft.com...
> I'm using Vista Ultimate. My PC has a E6600 Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 2gb
> 800mhz DDR2 Memory on an Intel D975XBX2 motherboard. The hard drive is a
> seagate 300gb SATA hardrive with 16mb cache. This is not a hardware problem
> Windows Explorer shows it to be Windows Explorer and Media Player that
> causing this problem.
>
> Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has to
> scan through the enite file before it will let me open. Then even after
> waiting for Explorer to do that for several minutes, Windows Media player
> also insists on reading through the entire file before opening it. I have
> tried turming off Indexing service and also Superfetch but that makes no
> difference. And I can't turn off Explorer obviously. What can I do to chnage
> this behavior?
>
> When you work with video all day long these delays become unbareble! Someone
> help!
>
> Bill


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #7 (permalink)
Adam Albright


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:22:56 -0500, "mikeyhsd" <mikeyhsd@sport.rr.com>
wrote:

>NO ONE asked about seeing thumbnails.
>the OP was asking about the delay in opening folders.
>
>learn to read.


If I want to comment on Vista's shortcomings I don't need the
permission of some smart ass punk like you to do so. Understand fool?

Well if not, learn.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #8 (permalink)
KristleBawl


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

"...and another one bites he dust..." P L O N K !

"Adam Albright" wrote in message
news:742u73l0nai4o9dueqjk04qmo6iqll10mc@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:22:56 -0500, "mikeyhsd" wrote:
>
>>NO ONE asked about seeing thumbnails.
>>the OP was asking about the delay in opening folders.
>>
>>learn to read.

>
> If I want to comment on Vista's shortcomings I don't need the
> permission of some smart ass punk like you to do so. Understand fool?
>
> Well if not, learn.
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-24-2007   #9 (permalink)
Adam Albright


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:00:38 -0400, "KristleBawl"
<kristlebawl@hotmail.com> wrote:

>"...and another one bites he dust..." P L O N K !


Yep, another immature crybaby that just has to announce to the world
they plonked somebody. Very adult of you. Not!

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Old 06-25-2007   #10 (permalink)
cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)


 
 

Re: Why? It's driving me nuts!

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 05:30:00 -0700, Flagreen

>Well I'm not using an anti-virus program at present. But I am using Windows
>Defender. I'll try turning that off and see if that's it.


You're brave ;-)

>"Not Me" wrote:


>> Many times it is not the OS, but your AV.


>> "Flagreen" <Flagreen@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message


>> > Whenever I create a video (avi, mpeg, whatever) file Windows Explorer has
>> > to scan through the enite file before it will let me open.


This does sound like some wretched persistent handler that fiddles
with content on the fly. Does it happen if you view a list of such
files without selecting any of them? Or when you select one, but
don't do anything else? Or only when you "open" one?

If there are more yesses than nos, I'd download Nirsoft's Shell
Extension Viewer and use that to carefully and reversibly disable
shell extensoins, starting with those that are not from Microsoft.

Nirsoft are best reached via www.nirsoft.net (not .com)



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