Vista - Re-activation problem!

I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update, which
i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops up and
tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and my old
key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista will stop
working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!

Don't Panic!

Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.

So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part fails,
you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.

KB

"Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
> which
> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops up
> and
> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and my
> old
> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista will
> stop
> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!

KristleBawl wrote:
> Don't Panic!
>
> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>
> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>
> KB

OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.

Alias
>
> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>> which
>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>> up and
>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>> my old
>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>> will stop
>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:46 +0200, Alias wrote:

> KristleBawl wrote:
>> Don't Panic!
>>
>> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>>
>> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
>> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>>
>> KB
>
> OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
> program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
> Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
> does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.
>
> Alias
>>
>> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>>> which
>>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>>> up and
>>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>>> my old
>>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>>> will stop
>>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>>

Ya know, even with XP, I am getting to the point where I seriously wish I
could just wipe it off all my computers and never see it again.

--
Stephan
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Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:46 +0200, Alias wrote:
>
>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>> Don't Panic!
>>>
>>> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>>>
>>> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
>>> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>>>
>>> KB
>> OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
>> program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
>> Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
>> does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.
>>
>> Alias
>>> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>>>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>>>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>>>> which
>>>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>>>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>>>> up and
>>>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>>>> my old
>>>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>>>> will stop
>>>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>
> Ya know, even with XP, I am getting to the point where I seriously wish I
> could just wipe it off all my computers and never see it again.
>

XP is tolerable although I find myself using Ubuntu more and more,
especially now that I've figured out how to install Beryl. Talk about a
WOW factor!

Alias

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:28:21 +0200, Alias wrote:

> Stephan Rose wrote:
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:46 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Don't Panic!
>>>>
>>>> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>>>>
>>>> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
>>>> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>>>>
>>>> KB
>>> OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
>>> program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
>>> Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
>>> does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>>> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>>>>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>>>>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>>>>> which
>>>>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>>>>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>>>>> up and
>>>>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>>>>> my old
>>>>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>>>>> will stop
>>>>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>>
>> Ya know, even with XP, I am getting to the point where I seriously wish I
>> could just wipe it off all my computers and never see it again.
>>
>
> XP is tolerable although I find myself using Ubuntu more and more,
> especially now that I've figured out how to install Beryl. Talk about a
> WOW factor!
>

Beryl is neat though I find I have little real use for it in the long run
beyond showing off how pathetic Aero is in comparison.

It's all the other little things that do it for me.

Speed, stability, things just simply work right, etc.

My XP install at home is so severely pissing me off right now that I really
hate booting into it.

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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* Stephan Rose:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:28:21 +0200, Alias wrote:
>
>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:46 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>> Don't Panic!
>>>>>
>>>>> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
>>>>> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> KB
>>>> OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
>>>> program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
>>>> Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
>>>> does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>>>>>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>>>>>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>>>>>> up and
>>>>>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>>>>>> my old
>>>>>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>>>>>> will stop
>>>>>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>>> Ya know, even with XP, I am getting to the point where I seriously wish I
>>> could just wipe it off all my computers and never see it again.
>>>
>> XP is tolerable although I find myself using Ubuntu more and more,
>> especially now that I've figured out how to install Beryl. Talk about a
>> WOW factor!
>>
>
> Beryl is neat though I find I have little real use for it in the long run
> beyond showing off how pathetic Aero is in comparison.
>
> It's all the other little things that do it for me.
>
> Speed, stability, things just simply work right, etc.

> My XP install at home is so severely pissing me off right now that I really
> hate booting into it.

Stephan,

I've read quite a few of your posts, and you seem rather intelligent
and knowledgeable about computers. I find it hard to believe that
an advanced user, such as yourself, would have a hard time getting
WinXP to do what they want and not have it humming right along.


-Michael

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:50:54 -0400, MICHAEL wrote:

> * Stephan Rose:
>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 14:28:21 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Stephan Rose wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:21:46 +0200, Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>> Don't Panic!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your key is in use, by you, from the first time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, use the Phone option, and when then phone option automatic part
>>>>>> fails, you'll get to talk to a real person who will reactivate it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> KB
>>>>> OP downloads a driver from MICROSOFT and the badly programmed activation
>>>>> program doesn't realize it is a driver and thinks that the OP moved
>>>>> Vista to another computer. This is yet another example of how activation
>>>>> does nothing to stop piracy and only inconveniences the PAYING customer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> "Tobias T." <Tobias T.@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:04769C72-68DE-4ACA-8029-84513B87A2BE@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> I activated windows vista a couple of months ago. Today, while i was
>>>>>>> installing a windows update, there was another optional driver update,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> i selected and installed too. That done, the computer needed a restart.
>>>>>>> However, whenever it was done restarting, a message from windows pops
>>>>>>> up and
>>>>>>> tells me due to a hardware change I need to re-activate windows, and
>>>>>>> my old
>>>>>>> key is 'already in use', whatever that means... HELP! It said vista
>>>>>>> will stop
>>>>>>> working if I don't activate it within 3 days!!!
>>>> Ya know, even with XP, I am getting to the point where I seriously wish I
>>>> could just wipe it off all my computers and never see it again.
>>>>
>>> XP is tolerable although I find myself using Ubuntu more and more,
>>> especially now that I've figured out how to install Beryl. Talk about a
>>> WOW factor!
>>>
>>
>> Beryl is neat though I find I have little real use for it in the long run
>> beyond showing off how pathetic Aero is in comparison.
>>
>> It's all the other little things that do it for me.
>>
>> Speed, stability, things just simply work right, etc.
>
>> My XP install at home is so severely pissing me off right now that I really
>> hate booting into it.
>
> Stephan,
>
> I've read quite a few of your posts, and you seem rather intelligent
> and knowledgeable about computers. I find it hard to believe that
> an advanced user, such as yourself, would have a hard time getting
> WinXP to do what they want and not have it humming right along.

Thank you. It's not that I can't. Sure, I can. But I just simply don't
have the time to invest into it. See in the past, I used to usually build
a complete new computer system once a year. So usually, there'd be a major
hardware upgrade once a year along the lines of CPU & Motherboar that would
require a operating system reinstall. So that always kept XP in a nice and
clean state.

It's getting to the point though where doing so isn't feasible anymore.
For one, I do major hardware upgrades less and less. I simply don't have
the need to anymore. Even my 3.2GHz P4 system here at work is overkill for
most my processing requirements. Not to mention my core 2 duo at home. For
the most part, I just throw in an upgraded nVidia card periodically and
that's it these days.

Both are adware, spyware, malware and virus free. Both only have
professional high end apps installed with some games mixed in on my home
system. So no 19.95 crapware software. Both are kept reasonably
defragmented by Diskeeper. Neither is bogged down by 24/7 virus monitoring
as I use periodic manual scans. So anti-virus software running in the
background isn't to blame either.

My XP install at work is just a frigging sloth when it boots up. I mean
here is what my morning looks like when I want to boot into XP at work.

- Turn on computer
- Go do something else for 10 minutes.
- Start to use my PC.

My system at home is about at the 5 minute mark right now.

My XP system for instance is too stupid to remove my on-board sound card
driver without me re-enabling the on-board sound card. I mean sure, not
difficult to fix, but I honestly am annoyed by the fact that the sound
card needs to be installed for the driver software to be removed. Makes me
wonder what to do if the hardware had a defect and couldn't be used?

Then just yesterday, microsoft's auto-update randomly froze on me
installing a bunch of updates. I had to turn the power off and back on. It
still shows updates it wants to install and I have no clue if it'll work
this time. Haven't tried yet. Maybe it will? *shrug* I am honestly worried
what all it might screw up if it freezes again.

Randomly, and this happens on both my XP installs, XP fails to correctly
identify my *Microsoft* keyboards I use a Japanese keyboard, which XP
randomly identifies as US, Chinese, and once in a while Japanese. Having
to go correct the layout on a constant basis is annoying. I do love the
keyboards though. That they at least got those right.

Then on my system at home, XP decided it doesn't want to shut down or
restart on the first time. No. I need to tell it twice.

XP can't correctly handle my dual screen setup. In it's current state I
can't use it to view movies on my TV connected to my second DVI output
without buying 3rd party software.

I could go on...

There might be ways to fix some, if not all of this by mucking around in
the registry. And sure, I'd be capable of doing that. Generally though,
by the time XP gets into a state like this, as I've mentioned earlier, I
usually am contemplating hardware upgrades already anyway and usually just
wipe the slate clean. A reinstall is usually quicker and more effective
than trying to figure out what to fix where and how in the first place.

Combined with all the time I spend keeping the machine clean from adware,
viruses, defragmenting, etc. Just tired of doing all that.

In contrast to Ubuntu, my now Primary OS, I simply don't have *any* of
these problems.

The OS is in control of drivers and it's related software. So removing a
driver does not require the hardware to be installed!

It correctly recognizes my Keyboard and its layout *every time*.

Both my P4 system and Core 2 Duo system take less than a minute to boot
up.

When I want it to reboot or shut down, it actually does so. The first time.

It is generally, in all aspects, faster and more stable than XP.

I can use my second DVI out to watch movies on my TV without the need to
buy 3rd party software.

I don't need to spend time doing adware/spyware scans.
I don't need to spend time doing virus scans.
I don't need to spend time defragmenting anything! The drive doesn't
defragment any significant amount in the first place!

My first ubuntu install, which went from 6.06 to 6.10 to 7.04 beta to 7.04
Release, was still rock solid, fast and stable 5 months later as it was on
the first day even having gone through all those upgrades. That's 4
in-place OS upgrades, one of which was a beta, and the OS didn't get
bogged down the least by it.

Now ask around how many people would actually recommend doing an in-place
OS upgrade of XP to Vista. I don't think you'd get many..if any. =)

Long story short, sure I can make XP behave the way I want and I can even
make XP be stable. I have done so for enough years. But the more I use an
OS that simply stays fast and stable on it's own without my intervention
the less I even want to see XP. Not to mention Vista. I'd throw it out the
window in less than a week in the state it is in right now.

I am really in a state right now where the only reason I even bother
keeping windows around is because work-wise I have to support it and I
still have a couple apps that depend on it.

--
Stephan
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