Vista - Vista Business - continuous disk access - slow slow - cause?

Hi

I have Vista Business, on a fairly new (4 months old) Windows-Vista labelled
laptop, experience index is 3.1. At least once a day (I think it happens
mostly when I am copying files ( 30-40 MB) from one directory to another
(not a specific directory) but I am not sure that it is simpy a coincidence)
the computer start an intensive and continuous disk access, the swooshy
shows up (meaning the hourglass) and after waiting for like ten minutes I
end up hitting the Power button. Needless to say this is extremely annoying
and frustrating?

What can be the cause of this? How can I find root cause of this behaviour?
I suspected it is the Indexing service (which, by the way, reports diuble or
triple entries for the same physical file on the hard disk when used) and I
have stopped and disbled it but to no avail.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

"svista" <svis@ta.it> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I have Vista Business, on a fairly new (4 months old) Windows-Vista
> labelled laptop, experience index is 3.1. At least once a day (I think
> it happens mostly when I am copying files ( 30-40 MB) from one directory
> to another (not a specific directory) but I am not sure that it is simpy a
> coincidence) the computer start an intensive and continuous disk access,
> the swooshy shows up (meaning the hourglass) and after waiting for like
> ten minutes I end up hitting the Power button. Needless to say this is
> extremely annoying and frustrating?
>
> What can be the cause of this? How can I find root cause of this
> behaviour? I suspected it is the Indexing service (which, by the way,
> reports diuble or triple entries for the same physical file on the hard
> disk when used) and I have stopped and disbled it but to no avail.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.



You can use the Sysinternals tools to possibly see what is happening; like
the disk monitoring tools.


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...s/default.mspx

You may also what to use Process Explorer to see process activity. You can
right click a process and go to Properties where you can look at several
things for a give process that's running.

I too have the hard drive issues with vista, light never stops flashing.
Like he said, its probably the indexing but hopefully it's not too
intensive that it will wear out the drive.

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message
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>
> "svista" <svis@ta.it> wrote in message
> news:%231ffFw7uHHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> I have Vista Business, on a fairly new (4 months old) Windows-Vista
>> labelled laptop, experience index is 3.1. At least once a day (I think
>> it happens mostly when I am copying files ( 30-40 MB) from one directory
>> to another (not a specific directory) but I am not sure that it is simpy
>> a coincidence) the computer start an intensive and continuous disk
>> access, the swooshy shows up (meaning the hourglass) and after waiting
>> for like ten minutes I end up hitting the Power button. Needless to say
>> this is extremely annoying and frustrating?
>>
>> What can be the cause of this? How can I find root cause of this
>> behaviour? I suspected it is the Indexing service (which, by the way,
>> reports diuble or triple entries for the same physical file on the hard
>> disk when used) and I have stopped and disbled it but to no avail.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> You can use the Sysinternals tools to possibly see what is happening; like
> the disk monitoring tools.
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...s/default.mspx
>
> You may also what to use Process Explorer to see process activity. You can
> right click a process and go to Properties where you can look at several
> things for a give process that's running.
>

"Ryan Hayward" <rghayward@upnaway.com.au> wrote in message
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>I too have the hard drive issues with vista, light never stops flashing.
> Like he said, its probably the indexing but hopefully it's not too
> intensive that it will wear out the drive.

For all you know, it could be malware uploading the entire HD.

A person I worked with friend had him come over to check things about as to
why his HD light was constantly flashing all the time, and things was dead
slow every time the machine connected to the Internet.

He comes to find out that malware was running on the machine uploading the
HD.

svista wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have Vista Business, on a fairly new (4 months old) Windows-Vista
> labelled laptop, experience index is 3.1. At least once a day (I
> think it happens mostly when I am copying files ( 30-40 MB) from one
> directory to another (not a specific directory) but I am not sure that
> it is simpy a coincidence) the computer start an intensive and
> continuous disk access, the swooshy shows up (meaning the hourglass) and
> after waiting for like ten minutes I end up hitting the Power button.
> Needless to say this is extremely annoying and frustrating?
>
> What can be the cause of this? How can I find root cause of this
> behaviour? I suspected it is the Indexing service (which, by the way,
> reports diuble or triple entries for the same physical file on the hard
> disk when used) and I have stopped and disbled it but to no avail.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Try changing the defrag service to manual.

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I had already done that before the problem arised. Scheduled
defragmentation is disabled on the computer.


The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:

>
> Try changing the defrag service to manual.
>

I made that hypothesis too. I checked TCP and UDP connections and NIC
activity.... apparently no data upload is being performend during
intense disk activity but again the computer becomes practically
unusable during that intense disk activity. I am using antivirus and
antispyware software in addition to Vista built-in protections....

Mr. Arnold wrote:

>
> For all you know, it could be malware uploading the entire HD.
>
> A person I worked with friend had him come over to check things about as
> to why his HD light was constantly flashing all the time, and things
> was dead slow every time the machine connected to the Internet.

On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:10:48 +0200, "yynn@yyy.yyy" <yynn@yyy.yyy>
wrote:

>
>I made that hypothesis too. I checked TCP and UDP connections and NIC
>activity.... apparently no data upload is being performend during
>intense disk activity but again the computer becomes practically
>unusable during that intense disk activity. I am using antivirus and
>antispyware software in addition to Vista built-in protections....

Instead of guessing you can actually SEE what Vista is up to.

Bring up Task Manager, then Resources Monitor, expand the disk option
so you can see the details and hopefully figure out why your hard
drive is trashing around.

The usual suspects are in no particular order:

1. indexing (can be disabled)
2. shadow copy housecleaning, super fetch BS...
3. defraging in progress
4. low system resources
5. Spyware detection, anti-virus sweep in progress

If your system is also sluggish, you may be asking your computer to do
too much at once and it is constantly shuffling things from RAM to
Virtual Memory and back again which can cause your hard drive to go
nuts.

yynn@yyy.yyy wrote:
>
> I had already done that before the problem arised. Scheduled
> defragmentation is disabled on the computer.
>
>
> The poster formerly known as Nina DiBoy wrote:
>
>>
>> Try changing the defrag service to manual.
>>


Could try looking at the properties for your hard drives. If Index for
faster searching is checked try unchecking it.

Also check to see if anything like an antivirus program is checking
things unnecessarily. Of course task manager should help.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:10:48 +0200, "yynn@yyy.yyy" <yynn@yyy.yyy>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I made that hypothesis too. I checked TCP and UDP connections and NIC
>>activity.... apparently no data upload is being performend during
>>intense disk activity but again the computer becomes practically
>>unusable during that intense disk activity. I am using antivirus and
>>antispyware software in addition to Vista built-in protections....
>
> Instead of guessing you can actually SEE what Vista is up to.
>
> Bring up Task Manager, then Resources Monitor, expand the disk option
> so you can see the details and hopefully figure out why your hard
> drive is trashing around.
>
> The usual suspects are in no particular order:
>
> 1. indexing (can be disabled)
> 2. shadow copy housecleaning, super fetch BS...
> 3. defraging in progress
> 4. low system resources
> 5. Spyware detection, anti-virus sweep in progress
>
> If your system is also sluggish, you may be asking your computer to do
> too much at once and it is constantly shuffling things from RAM to
> Virtual Memory and back again which can cause your hard drive to go
> nuts.
>

Yep, perhaps if he is using the aero theme with under a gig of memory,
disable that too.