Vista - Best Registry Cleaner for vista

I posted earlier that Microsoft installed CCLeaner on my computer running Vista after it crashed just a few days ago - they used CCLeaner to do something (clearly they think it's good/safe or they would not have installed it.) It's on my desktop right now. After reading this do you think I should "unintall" this from my system?? Actually, I'm afraid of even LOOKING at it after reading stuff here. What do you think??? Because I don't want another mess like Trend Micro Anti-spyware left me with.

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:28:14 -0500, The Sand
<The.Sand.2thbsd@no-mx.forums.net> wrote:

>
> I posted earlier that Microsoft installed CCLeaner on my computer
> running Vista after it crashed just a few days ago - they used CCLeaner
> to do something (clearly they think it's good/safe or they would not
> have installed it.) It's on my desktop right now. After reading this
> do you think I should "unintall" this from my system?? Actually, I'm
> afraid of even LOOKING at it after reading stuff here. What do you
> think??? Because I don't want another mess like Trend Micro
> Anti-spyware left me with.


CCleaner does more things than clean the registry. And it does some of
them well. I'm not against using CCleaner, but I am against using its
registry cleaning capability.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:31:35 -0400, keepout@yahoo.com.invalid wrote:

>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:02:51 -0500, Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>
>>Notice the original claim; all Registry Cleaners are bad, avoid at all
>>costs, which has now shifted to saying some are bad, but not all, or
>>only bad if you don't know what you're doing, but I do know kind of
>>posts which are so typical here. <snicker>
>
>now who's making generalizations. I've said from the beginning, no name brands or otherwise. DON'T use a registry cleaner. The advantages aren't noticeable, if there is such a thing as an advantage to a registry cleaner.

You don't even know how to set the line length for your news reader
and you want to lecture on a technical topic? That's funny!

Thanks for the information Ken. I was afraid to even open it after my Trend Micro experience. I'm afraid right now that if I click on it it might start some "scan" the microsoft guy set up and I won't know what to do (since I don't know that program.) I'll keep it - but I'm still afraid of launching it right now... But I certainly WON'T use any register cleaners (from CCleaner or anybody else) which is a good thing to know... thanks again - I have a way of doing things wrong first... I learn but mostly the hard way.

I just installed Vista Home premium but this should work for any version.
After my install it ran very slow and reboot took a long time, so I purchased
System Mechanic Professional 7. This program does it all. It fixed my Start
up defraged drives, removed all junk files, Cleaned Registry and many others.
I am now very happy with Vista with very few minor problems. You shold also
get a USB Flash drive for ReadyBoost. This will help speed things up too.
Fred

"Arun" wrote:

> Can any One Suggest Best Registry Cleaner And residual file Cleaner for vista
> Ultimate.............

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:22:32 -0700, "Terry R." wrote:

>Fact is, some people just like to have things clean. Call it anal.

Hi! I'm a member, too ;-)

>But to those who t-shoot and have experience, I say if they're
>comfortable using them, they can be a great tool.

Oh, I clean up the registry, I just don't use registry cleaners to do
it. Instead, I use two tools (aside from Regedit):

Nirsoft RegScan

This basically does a string search, then collects all the hits into a
list. From there, you can select and save as a report, or you can
drill down into edit these via Regedit.

The advantage over F3 (find next) in Regedit is that you can see how
many hits you have. So if, for example, you see you have 3000 manual
edits to do, you can back out and re-think your strategy ;-)

ZD Change of Address

This dates from Win95, but still works! It is intended for use when
relocating installed software after the fact, e.g. changing
"C:\Program Files\Maxis\The Sims 2" to E:\GAMES\SIMS2 in order to free
up space on C:, etc. and that is how I have used it.

It covers registry. .ini files and shortcuts, and is fairly
conservative; stops and asks if it can continue, etc. unlike (say)
"Kill, Bury, Deny" AutoChk.


The point about registry cleaners is that I do not want to
automatically scratch where I couldn't manually troubleshoot.



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> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:22:32 -0700, "Terry R." wrote:
>
>> Fact is, some people just like to have things clean. Call it anal.
>
> Hi! I'm a member, too ;-)
>
>> But to those who t-shoot and have experience, I say if they're
>> comfortable using them, they can be a great tool.
>
> Oh, I clean up the registry, I just don't use registry cleaners to do
> it. Instead, I use two tools (aside from Regedit):
>
> Nirsoft RegScan
>
> This basically does a string search, then collects all the hits into a
> list. From there, you can select and save as a report, or you can
> drill down into edit these via Regedit.
>
> The advantage over F3 (find next) in Regedit is that you can see how
> many hits you have. So if, for example, you see you have 3000 manual
> edits to do, you can back out and re-think your strategy ;-)
>
> ZD Change of Address
>
> This dates from Win95, but still works! It is intended for use when
> relocating installed software after the fact, e.g. changing
> "C:\Program Files\Maxis\The Sims 2" to E:\GAMES\SIMS2 in order to free
> up space on C:, etc. and that is how I have used it.
>
> It covers registry. .ini files and shortcuts, and is fairly
> conservative; stops and asks if it can continue, etc. unlike (say)
> "Kill, Bury, Deny" AutoChk.
>
>
> The point about registry cleaners is that I do not want to
> automatically scratch where I couldn't manually troubleshoot.
>
>
>
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> I'm on a ten-year lunch break
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COA, I've got that on my system. Used to use it way back when the
utilities were free on ZD Net (I think I used to dial up to a bulletin
board to download utils). I remember it did have nice features for
moving programs. Regscan seems like a nice simple tool. Thanks for the
reference.

I've used JV16 Powertools forever (the older free version). It performs
a search, I can check what I want removed, it creates a backup of the
keys I'm going to modify and then cleans. I've used quite a few
cleaners in the past to see how they work, but never allowed automatic
cleaning.

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Adam Albright wrote:
>
> I would infer if somebody is asking for a recommendation of some
> Registry Clearer he already decided to try one and is only looking for
> opinions on which work best. While one may add their opinion about
> Registry Cleaners, doing so when that wasn't the question is in my
> opinion heavy handed and attempting to influence the person unduly. Of
> course that kind of thing never happens in groups like this. <snicker>
>


So, if you were asked which handgun would be the most effective means
of homicide/suicide, you'd blithely offer the pros & cons of the 9mm v.
the .38 caliber, rather trying to dissuade the individual from
contemplated action? An extreme analogy, I know, but it accurately
describes your position, does it not.


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The Sand wrote:
> I posted earlier that Microsoft installed CCLeaner on my computer
> running Vista after it crashed just a few days ago - they used CCLeaner
> to do something (clearly they think it's good/safe or they would not
> have installed it.) It's on my desktop right now. After reading this
> do you think I should "unintall" this from my system?? Actually, I'm
> afraid of even LOOKING at it after reading stuff here. What do you
> think??? Because I don't want another mess like Trend Micro
> Anti-spyware left me with.
>
>


I may be that the technician used CCleaner as nothing more than a
scanning tool, and then manually repaired something.

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the
application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and
certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and
dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

CCleaner's main strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its
usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;
as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any
other snake oil product of the same type.


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Bruce Chambers wrote:
> The Sand wrote:
>> I posted earlier that Microsoft installed CCLeaner on my computer
>> running Vista after it crashed just a few days ago - they used CCLeaner
>> to do something (clearly they think it's good/safe or they would not
>> have installed it.) It's on my desktop right now. After reading this
>> do you think I should "unintall" this from my system?? Actually, I'm
>> afraid of even LOOKING at it after reading stuff here. What do you
>> think??? Because I don't want another mess like Trend Micro
>> Anti-spyware left me with.
>>
>>
>
>
> I may be that the technician used CCleaner as nothing more than a
> scanning tool, and then manually repaired something.
>
> CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you
> step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
> really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the
> application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
> "issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
> brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and
> certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
> managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and
> dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.
>
> CCleaner's main strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in its
> usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard drive;
> as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than any
> other snake oil product of the same type.
>
>

You're so full of sh¡t, I can smell it all the way over here in Spain. I
have used Crap Cleaner's Issues feature on all three of my computers
with only positive results. A friend, who repairs computers for a
living, has used it on hundreds of computers with only positive results.
The same is true for SystemSuite, which you have admitted you've never
used yet call it "snake oil" in your usual sneering and supercilious way.

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