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  1. #1


    Ross M. Greenberg Guest

    access/permissions problems...

    My current problem is accessing files on my son's machine (running Vista
    Home Premium) from my machine (running Vista Ultimate)

    Although his machine's icon shows up in Network, and all of the users on his
    machine show up, I only have access to files under "Guest". Logging onto
    his machine through LogMeIn and checking in the permissions on
    C:\users\guest as opposed to C:\users\Ross Greenberg shows the same
    permissions, which is to allow "Full Control".

    Yet when I click on the file icon representing "Ross Greenberg" on my
    machine I get an Access Denied message.

    I figured that if I made my user ID on his machine a member of the
    administrative group that these problems would be solved, but unfortunately
    MMC/local policy (secpol.msc) is not available on Vista Home Premium.

    What can I do so I can access files on my son's machine?

    Thanks.

    Ross




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  2. #2


    Ian Betts Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    You need to make sure sharing is activated on both computers. That means
    locating the files or folder to share and on the toolbar click Share. And
    from the list whop you want to share with.

    --
    Ian

    "Ross M. Greenberg" <greenber@bellsouth.netx> wrote in message
    news:uf6mi.14044$yD2.1753@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
    > My current problem is accessing files on my son's machine (running Vista
    > Home Premium) from my machine (running Vista Ultimate)
    >
    > Although his machine's icon shows up in Network, and all of the users on
    > his machine show up, I only have access to files under "Guest". Logging
    > onto his machine through LogMeIn and checking in the permissions on
    > C:\users\guest as opposed to C:\users\Ross Greenberg shows the same
    > permissions, which is to allow "Full Control".
    >
    > Yet when I click on the file icon representing "Ross Greenberg" on my
    > machine I get an Access Denied message.
    >
    > I figured that if I made my user ID on his machine a member of the
    > administrative group that these problems would be solved, but
    > unfortunately MMC/local policy (secpol.msc) is not available on Vista Home
    > Premium.
    >
    > What can I do so I can access files on my son's machine?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross
    >
    >
    >
    >



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  3. #3


    Malke Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
    > My current problem is accessing files on my son's machine (running Vista
    > Home Premium) from my machine (running Vista Ultimate)
    >
    > Although his machine's icon shows up in Network, and all of the users on his
    > machine show up, I only have access to files under "Guest". Logging onto
    > his machine through LogMeIn and checking in the permissions on
    > C:\users\guest as opposed to C:\users\Ross Greenberg shows the same
    > permissions, which is to allow "Full Control".
    >
    > Yet when I click on the file icon representing "Ross Greenberg" on my
    > machine I get an Access Denied message.
    >
    > I figured that if I made my user ID on his machine a member of the
    > administrative group that these problems would be solved, but unfortunately
    > MMC/local policy (secpol.msc) is not available on Vista Home Premium.
    >
    > What can I do so I can access files on my son's machine?
    >


    If your son puts the files in the Public folder, can you access them
    now? I suspect that Vista Home Premium is similar to XP Home versions
    wherein files in users' home directories (XP - My Documents; Vista -
    Users\whatever) are not permitted to be shared.


    Malke
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  4. #4


    Ross M. Greenberg Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
    news:uCW9HEjxHHA.3364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > You need to make sure sharing is activated on both computers. That means
    > locating the files or folder to share and on the toolbar click Share. And
    > from the list whop you want to share with.
    >



    Sharing is activated on both machines. The directory on my son's machine
    is: C:\users\Ross Greenberg. From what I can see, I should have full
    privileges on his machine, and logging onto his machine through LogMeIn and
    checking permissions and privileges for the C drive, the user's directory,
    and the "Ross Greenberg" directory, to user "\\Max\Ross Greenberg" should
    have full permission (RWX) on not only the files within that directory, but
    on every directory along the way.

    Instead, I'm getting Access Is Denied...




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  5. #5


    Ian Betts Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    They are if you as admin allow sharing.



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    Ian

    "Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:OcN4yojxHHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
    >> My current problem is accessing files on my son's machine (running Vista
    >> Home Premium) from my machine (running Vista Ultimate)
    >>
    >> Although his machine's icon shows up in Network, and all of the users on
    >> his machine show up, I only have access to files under "Guest". Logging
    >> onto his machine through LogMeIn and checking in the permissions on
    >> C:\users\guest as opposed to C:\users\Ross Greenberg shows the same
    >> permissions, which is to allow "Full Control".
    >>
    >> Yet when I click on the file icon representing "Ross Greenberg" on my
    >> machine I get an Access Denied message.
    >>
    >> I figured that if I made my user ID on his machine a member of the
    >> administrative group that these problems would be solved, but
    >> unfortunately MMC/local policy (secpol.msc) is not available on Vista
    >> Home Premium.
    >>
    >> What can I do so I can access files on my son's machine?
    >>

    >
    > If your son puts the files in the Public folder, can you access them now?
    > I suspect that Vista Home Premium is similar to XP Home versions wherein
    > files in users' home directories (XP - My Documents; Vista -
    > Users\whatever) are not permitted to be shared.
    >
    >
    > Malke
    > --
    > Elephant Boy Computers
    > www.elephantboycomputers.com
    > "Don't Panic!"
    > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
    >



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  6. #6


    Ross M. Greenberg Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...


    > If your son puts the files in the Public folder, can you access them
    > now? I suspect that Vista Home Premium is similar to XP Home versions
    > wherein files in users' home directories (XP - My Documents; Vista -
    > Users\whatever) are not permitted to be shared.


    Well I'll be!! I created a test file, cleverly called Tester.Txt, on my
    Vista Ultimate machine's desktop and was able to drag that over to the
    Public folder on my son's machine, as well as to his "public" desktop
    (\\Max\Desktop) , put have no such write access to the Guest account,
    although I do have read/execute permission/access to that account.

    Thanks kindly! Although I feel that Microsoft's decision to emasculate
    Vista Home Premium as grossly as this will seriously make me look for
    alternatives not so castrated, I truly appreciate getting a definitive
    answer!!

    Microsoft: For Shame!



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  7. #7


    Malke Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
    >> If your son puts the files in the Public folder, can you access them
    >> now? I suspect that Vista Home Premium is similar to XP Home versions
    >> wherein files in users' home directories (XP - My Documents; Vista -
    >> Users\whatever) are not permitted to be shared.

    >
    > Well I'll be!! I created a test file, cleverly called Tester.Txt, on my
    > Vista Ultimate machine's desktop and was able to drag that over to the
    > Public folder on my son's machine, as well as to his "public" desktop
    > (\\Max\Desktop) , put have no such write access to the Guest account,
    > although I do have read/execute permission/access to that account.
    >
    > Thanks kindly! Although I feel that Microsoft's decision to emasculate
    > Vista Home Premium as grossly as this will seriously make me look for
    > alternatives not so castrated, I truly appreciate getting a definitive
    > answer!!


    Glad that sorted it for you. I suspected my guess was accurate. None of
    the Home versions, XP or Vista, are aimed at power users or business
    people who want to have fine-grained control over permissions. That's
    just the way it is. Certainly if you want alternatives, they are
    available. It's your choice.


    Malke
    --
    Elephant Boy Computers
    www.elephantboycomputers.com
    "Don't Panic!"
    MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

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  8. #8


    Ross M. Greenberg Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...


    >
    > Glad that sorted it for you. I suspected my guess was accurate. None of
    > the Home versions, XP or Vista, are aimed at power users or business
    > people who want to have fine-grained control over permissions. That's just
    > the way it is. Certainly if you want alternatives, they are available.
    > It's your choice.


    It's just that restricting such control is sort of silly: I know more than a
    few people with home networks. The inability for them to be able to set
    even such gross control as allowing permissions to be set to provide for a
    User A to maintain files for User B ends up prohibiting even the most
    rudimentary maintenance. I would think that for any home network that such
    simple maintenance needs to be performed, yet Vista Home Premium -- not Home
    Basic -- prohibits this?

    Now, I admit my particular situation (Ultimate talking to Home Premium) may
    be a bit unique, but there should be alternatives available, for going off a
    Microsoft reservation looks to be the only viable alternative that allows me
    to accomplish something that was easily accomplished under XP, even under
    the same XP<-> Vista connection.

    <grumble><grumble>




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  9. #9


    Malke Guest

    Re: access/permissions problems...

    Ross M. Greenberg wrote:

    > It's just that restricting such control is sort of silly: I know more than a
    > few people with home networks. The inability for them to be able to set
    > even such gross control as allowing permissions to be set to provide for a
    > User A to maintain files for User B ends up prohibiting even the most
    > rudimentary maintenance. I would think that for any home network that such
    > simple maintenance needs to be performed, yet Vista Home Premium -- not Home
    > Basic -- prohibits this?
    >
    > Now, I admit my particular situation (Ultimate talking to Home Premium) may
    > be a bit unique, but there should be alternatives available, for going off a
    > Microsoft reservation looks to be the only viable alternative that allows me
    > to accomplish something that was easily accomplished under XP, even under
    > the same XP<-> Vista connection.


    I'm not going to argue with your grumble. An operating system is not a
    religion, it is a tool. Use the operating system that fits your needs
    best. Even though I support every MS operating system, including Server
    (yes, I still support DOS and Win9x/ME!), I have used SUSE exclusively
    for my own work for 7 years until I switched to OS X this past January.

    That's why I say there are always choices. ;-)


    Malke
    --
    Elephant Boy Computers
    www.elephantboycomputers.com
    "Don't Panic!"
    MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

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