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Old 07-15-2007   #1 (permalink)
Alfred Kaufmann


 
 

Important Old Updates From Microsoft

For a long time now I have been getting a notice from Microsoft about
two important updates they got from Nvidia for my Raid Controller and
Serial ATA Controllers. I clicked for more information like the
VERSION number, but Microsoft provides nothing.

I went to the Nvidia website and it told me I had the latest drivers
installed, still Microsoft update complained. Finally I caved in and
gave it the okay to install. It installed an old Raid Controller and
failed to install the serial ATA controllers. Today Vista wanted to
check my raid hard drive and found plenty of errors. :-( Thankfully
it managed to fix them.

I re-installed the WHQL certified drivers from Nvidia and it looks
like everything it back to normal. Microsoft Update even want to
install those *&^%$ old drivers again!

Many years ago Microsoft changed the operating system so that
application software could not install old drivers without plenty of
warnings. I guess that feature does not apply to Microsoft
applications. Heck, they won't even tell you what version they are
installing until it is too late.

Al





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Old 07-15-2007   #2 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Don't download any hardware drivers from Nicrosoft!

You can right-click on those updates that are annoying you to hide them.

"Alfred Kaufmann" wrote:

> For a long time now I have been getting a notice from Microsoft about
> two important updates they got from Nvidia for my Raid Controller and
> Serial ATA Controllers. I clicked for more information like the
> VERSION number, but Microsoft provides nothing.
>
> I went to the Nvidia website and it told me I had the latest drivers
> installed, still Microsoft update complained. Finally I caved in and
> gave it the okay to install. It installed an old Raid Controller and
> failed to install the serial ATA controllers. Today Vista wanted to
> check my raid hard drive and found plenty of errors. :-( Thankfully
> it managed to fix them.
>
> I re-installed the WHQL certified drivers from Nvidia and it looks
> like everything it back to normal. Microsoft Update even want to
> install those *&^%$ old drivers again!
>
> Many years ago Microsoft changed the operating system so that
> application software could not install old drivers without plenty of
> warnings. I guess that feature does not apply to Microsoft
> applications. Heck, they won't even tell you what version they are
> installing until it is too late.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2007   #3 (permalink)
Ed Forsythe


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software updates that appear in
Microsoft/Windows Update. To do so is inviting disaster as so many have
discovered.

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:deuk93lbhphbcets5u1omb1jsdomu3ljmt@4ax.com...
> For a long time now I have been getting a notice from Microsoft about
> two important updates they got from Nvidia for my Raid Controller and
> Serial ATA Controllers. I clicked for more information like the
> VERSION number, but Microsoft provides nothing.
>
> I went to the Nvidia website and it told me I had the latest drivers
> installed, still Microsoft update complained. Finally I caved in and
> gave it the okay to install. It installed an old Raid Controller and
> failed to install the serial ATA controllers. Today Vista wanted to
> check my raid hard drive and found plenty of errors. :-( Thankfully
> it managed to fix them.
>
> I re-installed the WHQL certified drivers from Nvidia and it looks
> like everything it back to normal. Microsoft Update even want to
> install those *&^%$ old drivers again!
>
> Many years ago Microsoft changed the operating system so that
> application software could not install old drivers without plenty of
> warnings. I guess that feature does not apply to Microsoft
> applications. Heck, they won't even tell you what version they are
> installing until it is too late.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2007   #4 (permalink)
AlanC


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Alfred,

I received the update notification and, like you, eventually installed them.
Following installation my system wouldn't boot so I used Safe Mode to get in
and then delete them; ll has been well since. Historically, I've never
trusted Microsoft/windows Update with drivers (it did the same with Netgear
drivers on my old laptop) and this just reinforced my view.

My recommendation is to note any driver updates and investigate from the
relevant manufacturer, then hide the update and, obviously, don't install.

Regards

AlanC

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:deuk93lbhphbcets5u1omb1jsdomu3ljmt@4ax.com...
> For a long time now I have been getting a notice from Microsoft about
> two important updates they got from Nvidia for my Raid Controller and
> Serial ATA Controllers. I clicked for more information like the
> VERSION number, but Microsoft provides nothing.
>
> I went to the Nvidia website and it told me I had the latest drivers
> installed, still Microsoft update complained. Finally I caved in and
> gave it the okay to install. It installed an old Raid Controller and
> failed to install the serial ATA controllers. Today Vista wanted to
> check my raid hard drive and found plenty of errors. :-( Thankfully
> it managed to fix them.
>
> I re-installed the WHQL certified drivers from Nvidia and it looks
> like everything it back to normal. Microsoft Update even want to
> install those *&^%$ old drivers again!
>
> Many years ago Microsoft changed the operating system so that
> application software could not install old drivers without plenty of
> warnings. I guess that feature does not apply to Microsoft
> applications. Heck, they won't even tell you what version they are
> installing until it is too late.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-15-2007   #5 (permalink)
Jupiter Jones [MVP]


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Ed;
That generally applies to driver updates from Microsoft/Windows
Update.
Are you suggesting "Never! Ever!" install Service Packs, security
updates etc?
Those are all software updates.
If so I would strongly disagree as it leaves the operating system
vulnerable.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ONtSbbyxHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software updates that appear in
> Microsoft/Windows Update. To do so is inviting disaster as so many
> have discovered.


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Old 07-15-2007   #6 (permalink)
Ed Forsythe


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Picky, Picky J. You really didn't understand what I meant?

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:O5vmEIzxHHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ed;
> That generally applies to driver updates from Microsoft/Windows Update.
> Are you suggesting "Never! Ever!" install Service Packs, security updates
> etc?
> Those are all software updates.
> If so I would strongly disagree as it leaves the operating system
> vulnerable.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ONtSbbyxHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software updates that appear in
>> Microsoft/Windows Update. To do so is inviting disaster as so many have
>> discovered.

>



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Old 07-16-2007   #7 (permalink)
Lang Murphy


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

"Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eDKM%23L0xHHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Picky, Picky J. You really didn't understand what I meant?
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:O5vmEIzxHHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Ed;
>> That generally applies to driver updates from Microsoft/Windows Update.
>> Are you suggesting "Never! Ever!" install Service Packs, security updates
>> etc?
>> Those are all software updates.
>> If so I would strongly disagree as it leaves the operating system
>> vulnerable.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ONtSbbyxHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software updates that appear in
>>> Microsoft/Windows Update. To do so is inviting disaster as so many have
>>> discovered.

>>

>
>



What's to misunderstand about "Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software
updates that appear in Microsoft/Windows Update." ??? I don't see any
reference to drivers. The devil's in the details, no?

Lang

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Old 07-17-2007   #8 (permalink)
Christopher R. Lee


 
 

Re: Important Old Updates From Microsoft

Why can't Vista just leave us alone ????

Regards

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> a écrit dans le message
de news:O5vmEIzxHHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Ed;
> That generally applies to driver updates from Microsoft/Windows Update.
> Are you suggesting "Never! Ever!" install Service Packs, security updates
> etc?
> Those are all software updates.
> If so I would strongly disagree as it leaves the operating system
> vulnerable.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Ed Forsythe" <EdForsythe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ONtSbbyxHHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Never! Ever! install any Microsoft software updates that appear in
>> Microsoft/Windows Update. To do so is inviting disaster as so many have
>> discovered.

>


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