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Old 07-18-2007   #1 (permalink)
Juan I. Cahis


 
 

Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Dear friends:

Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu,
as in WinXP?

When I had WinXP installed in my PC, the combination of ERUNT and the
possibility to boot into the Recovery Console, saved my computer life
many times. Can I install an equivalent in Vista's boot menu?

Or, alternatively, can I copy the "MININT" (I understand that this is
the folder where the Recovery Console files are stored) and some root
files from another computer with WinXP, to the root of my Vista
machine, and then to use any utility to add it to the boot menu of it?
(I would prefer the first choice).


Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #2 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

The simple answer is No! The Vista DVD is bootable and has it's own repair
options as you can see form this link on my website
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/vista_d...er_options.htm

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3cas93hpp0u07lhbfo44ut9k613ain77bo@4ax.com...
Dear friends:

Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu,
as in WinXP?

When I had WinXP installed in my PC, the combination of ERUNT and the
possibility to boot into the Recovery Console, saved my computer life
many times. Can I install an equivalent in Vista's boot menu?

Or, alternatively, can I copy the "MININT" (I understand that this is
the folder where the Recovery Console files are stored) and some root
files from another computer with WinXP, to the root of my Vista
machine, and then to use any utility to add it to the boot menu of it?
(I would prefer the first choice).


Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #3 (permalink)
roman modic


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Hello!

"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:3cas93hpp0u07lhbfo44ut9k613ain77bo@4ax.com...
Dear friends:

> Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu,
> as in WinXP?


I haven't tried it yet, but it is possible:
http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistare.htm
[quote]
The Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) in Windows Vista replaces
the Recovery Console found in Windows XP. And where installing the
Recovery Console was a fairly simple process in XP, installing WinRE
in Vista is not quite as simple.
..
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #4 (permalink)
Juan I. Cahis


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Dear John, yes!!!, but providing that your computer manufacturer gave
a Vista DVD to you, and not a "disk recovery DVD or CD", as they
normally do.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:

>The simple answer is No! The Vista DVD is bootable and has it's own repair
>options as you can see form this link on my website
>http://vistasupport.mvps.org/vista_d...er_options.htm

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #5 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Juan, Check your PC user manual. Your PC manufacturer should have made
provisions for you to enter recovery mode. If it doesn't tell you how in the
user guide, then email the pc manufacturers technical support and ask them
what steps you need to take to enter repair mode.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:aufs93pc8otfqu2m9dnoq00v8g8sjbtfl8@4ax.com...
Dear John, yes!!!, but providing that your computer manufacturer gave
a Vista DVD to you, and not a "disk recovery DVD or CD", as they
normally do.

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote:

>The simple answer is No! The Vista DVD is bootable and has it's own repair
>options as you can see form this link on my website
>http://vistasupport.mvps.org/vista_d...er_options.htm

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #6 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Roman, while it is possible to install the Windows recovery Environment,
Juan is missing one very important 'ingredient' - he has no windows vista
installation disk, he only has recovery disks which are not suitable. To
actually install the Windows Recovery Environment you need a full version of
Windows Vista, a copy of the Windows Automated Installation kit and your pc
must already be running a copy of Windows Vista.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..

"roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote in message
news:erwlGLVyHHA.276@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
>
> "Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:3cas93hpp0u07lhbfo44ut9k613ain77bo@4ax.com...
> Dear friends:
>
>> Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu,
>> as in WinXP?

>
> I haven't tried it yet, but it is possible:
> http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistare.htm
>
Quote:
> The Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) in Windows Vista replaces
> the Recovery Console found in Windows XP. And where installing the
> Recovery Console was a fairly simple process in XP, installing WinRE
> in Vista is not quite as simple.
> .
> .
> .
>
> Note: The following is meant for advanced users or IT professionals.
> You will be modifying the system partition on your hard drive, and if
> done incorrectly, it could render your PC unbootable.
> .
> .
> .
>
> What's Needed
> Windows Vista DVD
> WAIK for Windows Vista (Windows Automated Installation Kit)
> A PC with Windows Vista Installed
>
> Assumptions
> <enter> means press the Enter key
> You know how to open an elevated command prompt in Vista
> You have a basic understanding of ImageX and the WAIK
> You have a basic understanding of DOS
>
> Basic Steps
> Create a winre.wim image file that is the Windows Recovery
> Environment
> Add a file to the winre.wim image file
> Copy the modified winre.wim file to the root of C:\
> Modify the F8 Advanced Boot Menu to run WinRE
>
> Acknowledgements
> The WinRE Windows Blog
> http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/
>
> .
> .
> .
>
>
>
> Regards, Roman
>
>


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-18-2007   #7 (permalink)
roman modic


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Hello!

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@mvps.org.NOSPAM> wrote in message news:%23x0O$9VyHHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Roman, while it is possible to install the Windows recovery Environment, Juan is missing one very important 'ingredient' - he has
> no windows vista installation disk, he only has recovery disks which are not suitable. To actually install the Windows Recovery
> Environment you need a full version of Windows Vista, a copy of the Windows Automated Installation kit and your pc must already be
> running a copy of Windows Vista.
>


OK.

OTOH, according to the article only boot.wim is required from Vista DVD.
Maybe his recovery DVD contains Vista boot.wim ...
Or maybe there is an ISO image of Vista DVD on hard disk of his PC ...

Regards, Roman


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-19-2007   #8 (permalink)
Juan I. Cahis


 
 

Re: Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu, as in WinXP?

Dear roman and friends:

I read this article, it is very interesting.

But it mentions an "x:" disk drive which it is not defined in the
article (Look for "AppPath=x:\sources\recovery\recenv.exe" in it).

Is it a mistake? Should it be "c:", or the letter representing the DVD
drive ("e:")?

Any hint?


"roman modic" <modicr@astral-it.com> wrote:

>Hello!
>
>"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:3cas93hpp0u07lhbfo44ut9k613ain77bo@4ax.com...
>Dear friends:
>
>> Is it possible to install a Vista "Recovery Console" in the boot menu,
>> as in WinXP?

>
>I haven't tried it yet, but it is possible:
>http://www.svrops.com/svrops/articles/winvistare.htm
>
Quote:
>The Windows Recovery Environment (WinRE) in Windows Vista replaces
>the Recovery Console found in Windows XP. And where installing the
>Recovery Console was a fairly simple process in XP, installing WinRE
>in Vista is not quite as simple.
>.
> .
> .
>
>Note: The following is meant for advanced users or IT professionals.
>You will be modifying the system partition on your hard drive, and if
>done incorrectly, it could render your PC unbootable.
>.
> .
> .
>
>What's Needed
> Windows Vista DVD
> WAIK for Windows Vista (Windows Automated Installation Kit)
> A PC with Windows Vista Installed
>
>Assumptions
> <enter> means press the Enter key
> You know how to open an elevated command prompt in Vista
> You have a basic understanding of ImageX and the WAIK
> You have a basic understanding of DOS
>
>Basic Steps
> Create a winre.wim image file that is the Windows Recovery Environment
> Add a file to the winre.wim image file
> Copy the modified winre.wim file to the root of C:\
> Modify the F8 Advanced Boot Menu to run WinRE
>
>Acknowledgements
>The WinRE Windows Blog
>http://blogs.msdn.com/winre/
>
>.
> .
> .
>
>
>
>Regards, Roman
>

Thanks
Juan I. Cahis
Santiago de Chile (South America)
Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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