Vista Tutorial - Readyboost

Hello all,

I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more effective
on
"resource limited" systems?

Regards

"Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
> Hello all,
>
> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
> effective on
> "resource limited" systems?
>
> Regards

No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a faster
write through caching area to the hard drive.
So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to disk
and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have been
flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster then the
access to disk.


--

Mike Brannigan

Experience shows that readyboost does nil for computers with lots of ram.
Some people here even reported that it slowed their high end computer down!

YES readyboost also has a bug noted to be fixed in the SP1... but that will
be around the end of the year!

Basically readyboost is a bad idea and a "patch" technology to go around
actually writing the vista code better leaner faster and smarter.

Basic MS logic: Lets bloat vista to smithereens, don't waste time actually
thinking, and then lets add a readyboost to make everyone happy.

WHAT A DISGRACE! You have been brainwashed and you love it!

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:6D4F4E6C-67EB-4586-B6C2-6BCF29A34D0B@microsoft.com...
> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>> effective on
>> "resource limited" systems?
>>
>> Regards
>
> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a faster
> write through caching area to the hard drive.
> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
> disk and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have
> been flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster
> then the access to disk.
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan

"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a09119@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Experience shows that readyboost does nil for computers with lots of ram.
> Some people here even reported that it slowed their high end computer
> down!
>

Even a PC with a lot of RAM will flush unused entries from cache when an
application exit. Say for example you were doing some work in a word
processor package.
If you subsequently reopen the application and open the document you were
working on this will be draw from the ReadyBoost cache significantly faster
then from the hard drive. That is a performance boost even for a system with
a lot of memory.
I run systems with 4 and 8GB of RAM and there is still performance to be
gained by using ReadyBoost.
On laptop systems I un with 2GB of memory a 2 or 4GB memory stick again
improves overall performance for day to day use.

> YES readyboost also has a bug noted to be fixed in the SP1... but that
> will be around the end of the year!
>

So? There are a number of outstanding bugs in the OS that re being
addressed with the monthly patches and will also be in SP1. This does not
mean Ready Boost should not be used.
(If you mean 939008 then this is not even that big a deal)

> Basically readyboost is a bad idea and a "patch" technology to go around
> actually writing the vista code better leaner faster and smarter.
>

Not at all - it is actually an enhancement as hard drive technology and
performance is being out stripped by solid state "drive" technology :
ReadyDrive goes on to use the similar technology for Hybrid drives which are
actually a patch again to slow spinning hard drive technology by
incorporating flash drive memory into the drive.

> Basic MS logic: Lets bloat vista to smithereens, don't waste time actually
> thinking, and then lets add a readyboost to make everyone happy.
>

Again incorrect - this is helping the performance of the system until
everyone can afford to switch to solid state drives of sufficient capacity
etc.

> WHAT A DISGRACE! You have been brainwashed and you love it!
>

No brainwashing here - it is you with your ill informed and ill conceived
arguments that cannot see the real reasoning behind this technology or where
it can and should be used.

--

Mike Brannigan
"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a09119@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> Experience shows that readyboost does nil for computers with lots of ram.
> Some people here even reported that it slowed their high end computer
> down!
>
> YES readyboost also has a bug noted to be fixed in the SP1... but that
> will be around the end of the year!
>
> Basically readyboost is a bad idea and a "patch" technology to go around
> actually writing the vista code better leaner faster and smarter.
>
> Basic MS logic: Lets bloat vista to smithereens, don't waste time actually
> thinking, and then lets add a readyboost to make everyone happy.
>
> WHAT A DISGRACE! You have been brainwashed and you love it!
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:6D4F4E6C-67EB-4586-B6C2-6BCF29A34D0B@microsoft.com...
>> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>>> effective on
>>> "resource limited" systems?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>
>> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a
>> faster write through caching area to the hard drive.
>> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
>> disk and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have
>> been flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster
>> then the access to disk.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>
>

* Mike Brannigan:
> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>> effective on
>> "resource limited" systems?
>>
>> Regards
>
> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a faster
> write through caching area to the hard drive.
> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to disk
> and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have been
> flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster then the
> access to disk.

Your real-world experience seems to differ from mine and *many*
others, including a lot of MVPs. Perhaps, you are used to quoting
what Readyboost is supposed to do, but most of the comments
in this forum- now and since the betas- ReadyBoost has *not* provided
any noticeable improvement on machines that have over 1.5 GB of Ram.
The only times I have noticed a *little* bit of help from ReadyBoost is
when I run virtual machines. There have also been a few sites that have run
some tests on ReadyBoost, most of it's not very flattering. About the
only time ReadyBoost shows any *noticeable* improvement are in
system with a Gig or less of Ram.

My findings are about the same on three different Vista machines.


-Michael

Readboost was NOT designed for systems with large amounts of RAM; simple as
that!

"Mike Brannigan" wrote:

>
> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46a09119@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> > Experience shows that readyboost does nil for computers with lots of ram.
> > Some people here even reported that it slowed their high end computer
> > down!
> >
>
> Even a PC with a lot of RAM will flush unused entries from cache when an
> application exit. Say for example you were doing some work in a word
> processor package.
> If you subsequently reopen the application and open the document you were
> working on this will be draw from the ReadyBoost cache significantly faster
> then from the hard drive. That is a performance boost even for a system with
> a lot of memory.
> I run systems with 4 and 8GB of RAM and there is still performance to be
> gained by using ReadyBoost.
> On laptop systems I un with 2GB of memory a 2 or 4GB memory stick again
> improves overall performance for day to day use.
>
> > YES readyboost also has a bug noted to be fixed in the SP1... but that
> > will be around the end of the year!
> >
>
> So? There are a number of outstanding bugs in the OS that re being
> addressed with the monthly patches and will also be in SP1. This does not
> mean Ready Boost should not be used.
> (If you mean 939008 then this is not even that big a deal)
>
> > Basically readyboost is a bad idea and a "patch" technology to go around
> > actually writing the vista code better leaner faster and smarter.
> >
>
> Not at all - it is actually an enhancement as hard drive technology and
> performance is being out stripped by solid state "drive" technology :
> ReadyDrive goes on to use the similar technology for Hybrid drives which are
> actually a patch again to slow spinning hard drive technology by
> incorporating flash drive memory into the drive.
>
> > Basic MS logic: Lets bloat vista to smithereens, don't waste time actually
> > thinking, and then lets add a readyboost to make everyone happy.
> >
>
> Again incorrect - this is helping the performance of the system until
> everyone can afford to switch to solid state drives of sufficient capacity
> etc.
>
> > WHAT A DISGRACE! You have been brainwashed and you love it!
> >
>
> No brainwashing here - it is you with your ill informed and ill conceived
> arguments that cannot see the real reasoning behind this technology or where
> it can and should be used.
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
> "carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
> news:46a09119@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> > Experience shows that readyboost does nil for computers with lots of ram.
> > Some people here even reported that it slowed their high end computer
> > down!
> >
> > YES readyboost also has a bug noted to be fixed in the SP1... but that
> > will be around the end of the year!
> >
> > Basically readyboost is a bad idea and a "patch" technology to go around
> > actually writing the vista code better leaner faster and smarter.
> >
> > Basic MS logic: Lets bloat vista to smithereens, don't waste time actually
> > thinking, and then lets add a readyboost to make everyone happy.
> >
> > WHAT A DISGRACE! You have been brainwashed and you love it!
> >
> > "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> > news:6D4F4E6C-67EB-4586-B6C2-6BCF29A34D0B@microsoft.com...
> >> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
> >>> effective on
> >>> "resource limited" systems?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>
> >> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a
> >> faster write through caching area to the hard drive.
> >> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
> >> disk and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have
> >> been flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster
> >> then the access to disk.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mike Brannigan
> >
> >
>

I have read that readyboost will come into its own once the operating system
is modified to take full advantage of this approach. I will wait and see
what is reported by others before I invest.

Richard

yeah ok, MVP's are not really 100% alive.
they are un-dead or brain dead (there are some exceptions in other
newsgroups but no good ones in this newsgroup). Dont mention them as a good
example!



"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:O0saYTsyHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>
> * Mike Brannigan:
>> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>>> effective on
>>> "resource limited" systems?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>
>> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a
>> faster
>> write through caching area to the hard drive.
>> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
>> disk
>> and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have been
>> flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster then
>> the
>> access to disk.
>
> Your real-world experience seems to differ from mine and *many*
> others, including a lot of MVPs. Perhaps, you are used to quoting
> what Readyboost is supposed to do, but most of the comments
> in this forum- now and since the betas- ReadyBoost has *not* provided
> any noticeable improvement on machines that have over 1.5 GB of Ram.
> The only times I have noticed a *little* bit of help from ReadyBoost is
> when I run virtual machines. There have also been a few sites that have
> run
> some tests on ReadyBoost, most of it's not very flattering. About the
> only time ReadyBoost shows any *noticeable* improvement are in
> system with a Gig or less of Ram.
>
> My findings are about the same on three different Vista machines.
>
>
> -Michael
>

carl

Opening a File or Application is noticeable faster from the cahe of ReadyBoost than the Hard Drive. This I have seen on machines with 1gig of Ram as well as 4 Gigs of Ram
--
Peter

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"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message news:46a0b636$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> yeah ok, MVP's are not really 100% alive.
> they are un-dead or brain dead (there are some exceptions in other
> newsgroups but no good ones in this newsgroup). Dont mention them as a good
> example!
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:O0saYTsyHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> * Mike Brannigan:
>>> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>>>> effective on
>>>> "resource limited" systems?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>
>>> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a
>>> faster
>>> write through caching area to the hard drive.
>>> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
>>> disk
>>> and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have been
>>> flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster then
>>> the
>>> access to disk.
>>
>> Your real-world experience seems to differ from mine and *many*
>> others, including a lot of MVPs. Perhaps, you are used to quoting
>> what Readyboost is supposed to do, but most of the comments
>> in this forum- now and since the betas- ReadyBoost has *not* provided
>> any noticeable improvement on machines that have over 1.5 GB of Ram.
>> The only times I have noticed a *little* bit of help from ReadyBoost is
>> when I run virtual machines. There have also been a few sites that have
>> run
>> some tests on ReadyBoost, most of it's not very flattering. About the
>> only time ReadyBoost shows any *noticeable* improvement are in
>> system with a Gig or less of Ram.
>>
>> My findings are about the same on three different Vista machines.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>
>

I will try an experiment and see....

How much faster is a USB2.0 flashdrive data transfer in comparison with a
hard drive disk? Any numbers?


"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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carl

Opening a File or Application is noticeable faster from the cahe of
ReadyBoost than the Hard Drive. This I have seen on machines with 1gig of
Ram as well as 4 Gigs of Ram
--
Peter

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Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46a0b636$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> yeah ok, MVP's are not really 100% alive.
> they are un-dead or brain dead (there are some exceptions in other
> newsgroups but no good ones in this newsgroup). Dont mention them as a
> good
> example!
>
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:O0saYTsyHHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>> * Mike Brannigan:
>>> "Jurij" <jurijvi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:E6D45015-A73E-4650-8702-EFA8E97A26BD@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I was intrigued by the Readyboost feature, but I presume it's more
>>>> effective on
>>>> "resource limited" systems?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>
>>> No - ReadyBoost helps the performance of all systems as acting as a
>>> faster
>>> write through caching area to the hard drive.
>>> So even on systems with plenty of memory where there is any writing to
>>> disk
>>> and then potentially reading that data back in (after it may have been
>>> flushed from memory) then the use of the ReadyBoost cache is faster then
>>> the
>>> access to disk.
>>
>> Your real-world experience seems to differ from mine and *many*
>> others, including a lot of MVPs. Perhaps, you are used to quoting
>> what Readyboost is supposed to do, but most of the comments
>> in this forum- now and since the betas- ReadyBoost has *not* provided
>> any noticeable improvement on machines that have over 1.5 GB of Ram.
>> The only times I have noticed a *little* bit of help from ReadyBoost is
>> when I run virtual machines. There have also been a few sites that have
>> run
>> some tests on ReadyBoost, most of it's not very flattering. About the
>> only time ReadyBoost shows any *noticeable* improvement are in
>> system with a Gig or less of Ram.
>>
>> My findings are about the same on three different Vista machines.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>
>