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Old 06-25-2006   #1 (permalink)
~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)


 
 

Aero desktop transparency does not work.

running the nvidia gforce chipset, fx5200 and a couple of driver issues i
think.
there are artifacts on boot and login, the desktop *looks* fine, but windows
has decided that i dont need the transparencies. they worked on install, but
i have tried (as suggested by nvidia) to use their vista driver, but that and
the beta xp/2000, AND the stock xp/2000 driver all have the same artifacting,
except the nvidia drivers are actually slower, and there are several issues
now surrounding the nvidia control panels.

short of a reinstall i have been unsucessful in bringing the effects back
online, even though i have reverted back to the bundled nvidia driver. is
there a controll panel available that will let me over ride what windows
thinks is best?

saw this in a simlar thread but i get a not found error (just cut'n'paste i
have done no research yet.. 'Fixed by running "winstat aurora" from the Run
box'

sry for length of post.. we are a bit more long winded in the Linux
community (my 3d accelerated desktop runs very nicely there ;P )

~Mordjah¿

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Old 06-25-2006   #2 (permalink)
Usama Zulfiqar


 
 

Re: Aero desktop transparency does not work.

Dear

I am aslo using Geforce FX5200 but all the aero features are enabled. Make
sure that you have big RAM. Currently i am using 1 Gb of RAM. My VGA card
memory is 128 MB. I have seen that when the ram is filled up by the programs
then the transperancy effect also disappears so this means that visual
effects also depends upon PC RAM..nothing to do with drivers..these are plug
and play..

"~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)" <~Mordjah� (Amd64 - Gentoo
Linux)@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:96F4E137-0B7F-4A3C-B494-5C315A95EB72@microsoft.com...
> running the nvidia gforce chipset, fx5200 and a couple of driver issues i
> think.
> there are artifacts on boot and login, the desktop *looks* fine, but
> windows
> has decided that i dont need the transparencies. they worked on install,
> but
> i have tried (as suggested by nvidia) to use their vista driver, but that
> and
> the beta xp/2000, AND the stock xp/2000 driver all have the same
> artifacting,
> except the nvidia drivers are actually slower, and there are several
> issues
> now surrounding the nvidia control panels.
>
> short of a reinstall i have been unsucessful in bringing the effects back
> online, even though i have reverted back to the bundled nvidia driver. is
> there a controll panel available that will let me over ride what windows
> thinks is best?
>
> saw this in a simlar thread but i get a not found error (just cut'n'paste
> i
> have done no research yet.. 'Fixed by running "winstat aurora" from the
> Run
> box'
>
> sry for length of post.. we are a bit more long winded in the Linux
> community (my 3d accelerated desktop runs very nicely there ;P )
>
> ~Mordjah¿


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 06-27-2006   #3 (permalink)
~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)


 
 

Re: Aero desktop transparency does not work.

Hmmm, that is an interesting tidbit, why on earth would a 3d accelerated
effect like that depend on system ram..? that is the point of the 128M on the
card one would thinks (as it is "texture space") but i have 3/4 gb of ram,
and memory hog vista (and all recent ms products) may be, that should be
plenty, since my linux 3d accelerated desktop environment (with a bunch of
other services...) uses a grand total of about 100 mb ram.. i never max out
unless i am running windows, then i dont have to run any actual programs to
use up my system mem. vista does it all by itself but seriously, are you
just running the bundled vista driver? i didnt lose the effects till i did
what nvidia said and "updated" my driver.

as windows wont show you anything like _all_ the changes that are made when
you update a driver, i have no way to know which files are left from the
other version (or reg keys or whatever) apparently there is no "clean" way to
change a video driver and it seems now that i am stuck with a hodgepodge of
oem and ms drivers. (not that the vid driver worked right in the first place)

"Usama Zulfiqar" wrote:

> Dear
>
> I am aslo using Geforce FX5200 but all the aero features are enabled. Make
> sure that you have big RAM. Currently i am using 1 Gb of RAM. My VGA card
> memory is 128 MB. I have seen that when the ram is filled up by the programs
> then the transperancy effect also disappears so this means that visual
> effects also depends upon PC RAM..nothing to do with drivers..these are plug
> and play..
>
> "~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)" <~Mordjah� (Amd64 - Gentoo
> Linux)@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:96F4E137-0B7F-4A3C-B494-5C315A95EB72@microsoft.com...
> > running the nvidia gforce chipset, fx5200 and a couple of driver issues i
> > think.
> > there are artifacts on boot and login, the desktop *looks* fine, but
> > windows
> > has decided that i dont need the transparencies. they worked on install,
> > but
> > i have tried (as suggested by nvidia) to use their vista driver, but that
> > and
> > the beta xp/2000, AND the stock xp/2000 driver all have the same
> > artifacting,
> > except the nvidia drivers are actually slower, and there are several
> > issues
> > now surrounding the nvidia control panels.
> >
> > short of a reinstall i have been unsucessful in bringing the effects back
> > online, even though i have reverted back to the bundled nvidia driver. is
> > there a controll panel available that will let me over ride what windows
> > thinks is best?
> >
> > saw this in a simlar thread but i get a not found error (just cut'n'paste
> > i
> > have done no research yet.. 'Fixed by running "winstat aurora" from the
> > Run
> > box'
> >
> > sry for length of post.. we are a bit more long winded in the Linux
> > community (my 3d accelerated desktop runs very nicely there ;P )
> >
> > ~Mordjah¿

>
>

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Old 06-27-2006   #4 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: Aero desktop transparency does not work.

I suppose for the same reason that some BIOS's have settings for reserving
ram for the PCI Express slots.

"~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)"
<MordjahAmd64GentooLinux@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A7E8060B-9E88-496A-BED9-2CE0FE2642B6@microsoft.com...
> Hmmm, that is an interesting tidbit, why on earth would a 3d accelerated
> effect like that depend on system ram..? that is the point of the 128M on
> the
> card one would thinks (as it is "texture space") but i have 3/4 gb of ram,
> and memory hog vista (and all recent ms products) may be, that should be
> plenty, since my linux 3d accelerated desktop environment (with a bunch of
> other services...) uses a grand total of about 100 mb ram.. i never max
> out
> unless i am running windows, then i dont have to run any actual programs
> to
> use up my system mem. vista does it all by itself but seriously, are
> you
> just running the bundled vista driver? i didnt lose the effects till i did
> what nvidia said and "updated" my driver.
>
> as windows wont show you anything like _all_ the changes that are made
> when
> you update a driver, i have no way to know which files are left from the
> other version (or reg keys or whatever) apparently there is no "clean" way
> to
> change a video driver and it seems now that i am stuck with a hodgepodge
> of
> oem and ms drivers. (not that the vid driver worked right in the first
> place)
>
> "Usama Zulfiqar" wrote:
>
>> Dear
>>
>> I am aslo using Geforce FX5200 but all the aero features are enabled.
>> Make
>> sure that you have big RAM. Currently i am using 1 Gb of RAM. My VGA card
>> memory is 128 MB. I have seen that when the ram is filled up by the
>> programs
>> then the transperancy effect also disappears so this means that visual
>> effects also depends upon PC RAM..nothing to do with drivers..these are
>> plug
>> and play..
>>
>> "~Mordjah¿ (Amd64 - Gentoo Linux)" <~Mordjah? (Amd64 - Gentoo
>> Linux)@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:96F4E137-0B7F-4A3C-B494-5C315A95EB72@microsoft.com...
>> > running the nvidia gforce chipset, fx5200 and a couple of driver issues
>> > i
>> > think.
>> > there are artifacts on boot and login, the desktop *looks* fine, but
>> > windows
>> > has decided that i dont need the transparencies. they worked on
>> > install,
>> > but
>> > i have tried (as suggested by nvidia) to use their vista driver, but
>> > that
>> > and
>> > the beta xp/2000, AND the stock xp/2000 driver all have the same
>> > artifacting,
>> > except the nvidia drivers are actually slower, and there are several
>> > issues
>> > now surrounding the nvidia control panels.
>> >
>> > short of a reinstall i have been unsucessful in bringing the effects
>> > back
>> > online, even though i have reverted back to the bundled nvidia driver.
>> > is
>> > there a controll panel available that will let me over ride what
>> > windows
>> > thinks is best?
>> >
>> > saw this in a simlar thread but i get a not found error (just
>> > cut'n'paste
>> > i
>> > have done no research yet.. 'Fixed by running "winstat aurora" from
>> > the
>> > Run
>> > box'
>> >
>> > sry for length of post.. we are a bit more long winded in the Linux
>> > community (my 3d accelerated desktop runs very nicely there ;P )
>> >
>> > ~Mordjah¿

>>
>>



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