Vista - Re: Impossible to get rid of ie7???

thatoneguy314 wrote:
> I apologize if this has been discussed before, I looked, but did not see
> anything that really explained this. One person asked how to do it, and
> all I got out of responses was that it was impossible.
>
> So is it true that there is no way to completely uninstal Internet
> Explorer?



Since WinXP was developed several years ago, Microsoft has decided to
make Internet Explorer (IE6, then) an integral part of the OS. It could
not be removed. The same policy was maintained during the development
of Vista; IE7 is built-in as an integral part of the operating system,
and *cannot* be removed.


>Because that seems pretty stupid to me.
>


I don't know that I'd use the term "stupid," but I agree that an
internet browser should not be part of an operating system. If I ever
decide to develop an OS, I'll not include a browser. Microsoft
apparently thought otherwise, though, and it is their product, to
develop as they like.



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including is ok

making it imposible to remove is not



"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:uibl4jS0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> thatoneguy314 wrote:
>> I apologize if this has been discussed before, I looked, but did not see
>> anything that really explained this. One person asked how to do it, and
>> all I got out of responses was that it was impossible.
>>
>> So is it true that there is no way to completely uninstal Internet
>> Explorer?
>
>
>
> Since WinXP was developed several years ago, Microsoft has decided to make
> Internet Explorer (IE6, then) an integral part of the OS. It could not be
> removed. The same policy was maintained during the development of Vista;
> IE7 is built-in as an integral part of the operating system, and *cannot*
> be removed.
>
>
>>Because that seems pretty stupid to me.
>>
>
>
> I don't know that I'd use the term "stupid," but I agree that an internet
> browser should not be part of an operating system. If I ever decide to
> develop an OS, I'll not include a browser. Microsoft apparently thought
> otherwise, though, and it is their product, to develop as they like.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:07:09 -0600, Bruce Chambers
<bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:

>thatoneguy314 wrote:
>> I apologize if this has been discussed before, I looked, but did not see
>> anything that really explained this. One person asked how to do it, and
>> all I got out of responses was that it was impossible.
>>
>> So is it true that there is no way to completely uninstal Internet
>> Explorer?
>
>
>
> Since WinXP was developed several years ago, Microsoft has decided to
>make Internet Explorer (IE6, then) an integral part of the OS. It could
>not be removed. The same policy was maintained during the development
>of Vista; IE7 is built-in as an integral part of the operating system,
>and *cannot* be removed.
>
>
>>Because that seems pretty stupid to me.
>>
>
>
> I don't know that I'd use the term "stupid," but I agree that an
>internet browser should not be part of an operating system. If I ever
>decide to develop an OS, I'll not include a browser. Microsoft
>apparently thought otherwise, though, and it is their product, to
>develop as they like.

Lets be more honest. Microsoft started including it's browser with
Windows to compete with Netscape, then a very popular browser. In fact
this was one of the key elements in the federal government (US) filing
anti-trust charges against Microsoft several years ago.

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:39:00 +0300, "carl feredeck"
<carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote:

>including is ok
>
>making it imposible to remove is not

Well stated. There's the right way, wrong way and the way Microsoft
always tries to force THEIR way. Their next to useless UAC a prime
example of forcing users into something they neither asked for or
wanted.

Adam Albright wrote:
>
>
> Lets be more honest. Microsoft started including it's browser with
> Windows to compete with Netscape, then a very popular browser. In fact
> this was one of the key elements in the federal government (US) filing
> anti-trust charges against Microsoft several years ago.
>

Even if true, none of this is relevant to the OP's question. You're
just exploiting the post to mindlessly and pointlessly climb on a soap
box to bash Microsoft, without even the pretense of sticking to the
subject of the post. Why not just answer the OP's question? Oh, I
remember.... Your sole purpose is to behave as a troll.


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--
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"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46ab6315@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> including is ok
>
> making it imposible to remove is not
>
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:uibl4jS0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> thatoneguy314 wrote:
>>> I apologize if this has been discussed before, I looked, but did not see
>>> anything that really explained this. One person asked how to do it, and
>>> all I got out of responses was that it was impossible.
>>>
>>> So is it true that there is no way to completely uninstal Internet
>>> Explorer?
>>
>>
>>
>> Since WinXP was developed several years ago, Microsoft has decided to
>> make Internet Explorer (IE6, then) an integral part of the OS. It could
>> not be removed. The same policy was maintained during the development of
>> Vista; IE7 is built-in as an integral part of the operating system, and
>> *cannot* be removed.
>>
>>
>>>Because that seems pretty stupid to me.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know that I'd use the term "stupid," but I agree that an internet
>> browser should not be part of an operating system. If I ever decide to
>> develop an OS, I'll not include a browser. Microsoft apparently thought
>> otherwise, though, and it is their product, to develop as they like.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>> Russell
>
>
Why not, its their product.

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:38:59 -0600, Bruce Chambers
<bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lets be more honest. Microsoft started including it's browser with
>> Windows to compete with Netscape, then a very popular browser. In fact
>> this was one of the key elements in the federal government (US) filing
>> anti-trust charges against Microsoft several years ago.
>>
>
> Even if true, none of this is relevant to the OP's question. You're
>just exploiting the post to mindlessly and pointlessly climb on a soap
>box to bash Microsoft, without even the pretense of sticking to the
>subject of the post. Why not just answer the OP's question? Oh, I
>remember.... Your sole purpose is to behave as a troll.

You want to list the ten thousand or so posts the fanboy crowd have
exploited to bash Linux, and tell people dumb things like nobody
forced you to install Vista?

Well do you?

People that mindlessly call others trolls are weak minded and lack
debating skills. If the shoe fits, wear it.

> Even if true, none of this is relevant to the OP's question.

knowing the story behind events is valuable...
It explaint exactly why ms made un-removable



"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:%2336DNXT0HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Adam Albright wrote:
>>
>>
>> Lets be more honest. Microsoft started including it's browser with
>> Windows to compete with Netscape, then a very popular browser. In fact
>> this was one of the key elements in the federal government (US) filing
>> anti-trust charges against Microsoft several years ago.
>
> Even if true, none of this is relevant to the OP's question. You're just
> exploiting the post to mindlessly and pointlessly climb on a soap box to
> bash Microsoft, without even the pretense of sticking to the subject of
> the post. Why not just answer the OP's question? Oh, I remember.... Your
> sole purpose is to behave as a troll.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
> Russell

Can YOU remove the Mac OSX Finder? Etc? Try it.

"carl feredeck" <carlferedeck@wizzmail.com> wrote in message
news:46ab6315@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> including is ok
>
> making it imposible to remove is not
>
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
> news:uibl4jS0HHA.5884@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> thatoneguy314 wrote:
>>> I apologize if this has been discussed before, I looked, but did not see
>>> anything that really explained this. One person asked how to do it, and
>>> all I got out of responses was that it was impossible.
>>>
>>> So is it true that there is no way to completely uninstal Internet
>>> Explorer?
>>
>>
>>
>> Since WinXP was developed several years ago, Microsoft has decided to
>> make Internet Explorer (IE6, then) an integral part of the OS. It could
>> not be removed. The same policy was maintained during the development of
>> Vista; IE7 is built-in as an integral part of the operating system, and
>> *cannot* be removed.
>>
>>
>>>Because that seems pretty stupid to me.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know that I'd use the term "stupid," but I agree that an internet
>> browser should not be part of an operating system. If I ever decide to
>> develop an OS, I'll not include a browser. Microsoft apparently thought
>> otherwise, though, and it is their product, to develop as they like.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand
>> Russell
>
>

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:3ssma3pte78hj5mujivbfhks6acjas6ebj@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:38:59 -0600, Bruce Chambers
> <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:
>
>>Adam Albright wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Lets be more honest. Microsoft started including it's browser with
>>> Windows to compete with Netscape, then a very popular browser. In fact
>>> this was one of the key elements in the federal government (US) filing
>>> anti-trust charges against Microsoft several years ago.
>>>
>>
>> Even if true, none of this is relevant to the OP's question. You're
>>just exploiting the post to mindlessly and pointlessly climb on a soap
>>box to bash Microsoft, without even the pretense of sticking to the
>>subject of the post. Why not just answer the OP's question? Oh, I
>>remember.... Your sole purpose is to behave as a troll.
>
> You want to list the ten thousand or so posts the fanboy crowd have
> exploited to bash Linux, and tell people dumb things like nobody
> forced you to install Vista?
>
> Well do you?
>
> People that mindlessly call others trolls are weak minded and lack
> debating skills. If the shoe fits, wear it.
>
>
This is a free world, at least it could be if people like you get the hell
off our backs. If any of us were the slightest bit interested in Linux we
would not be on a Vista NG but on a Linux one. No one here want to ask a
question only to have you or Alias wade in with you constant sales pitch for
other systems or to hear you endless condemnation of their chosen system.

You seem to be brain dead to me because you ignore pleas to go away.




--
Ian