Vista - Windows Defender/Security Center

Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have both
running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know what i
can do to make the security center to recognize the already running defender?

Windows Defender is not an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware
program.
You will not have an anti-virus program unless you download one that works
on Vista. Such programs have been discussed at length in this newsgroup.

"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
> Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
> telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
> both
> running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
> recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
> that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
> what i
> can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
> defender?

Additional note: The former name of Windows Defender was Microsoft
AntispywareBeta.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uYbtuoImGHA.4700@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Windows Defender is not an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware
> program.
> You will not have an anti-virus program unless you download one that works
> on Vista. Such programs have been discussed at length in this newsgroup.
>
> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
>> Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
>> telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
>> both
>> running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
>> recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
>> that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
>> what i
>> can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
>> defender?
>
>

My security center says "Spyware and other malware protection"......"Windows
Defender is turned off." I have Defender running and turned on. It currently
runs scheduled scans and I have had no other problems with it. I am just
trying to figure out why the security center is not recognizing that it is
running.

Any ideas?


"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Windows Defender is not an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware
> program.
> You will not have an anti-virus program unless you download one that works
> on Vista. Such programs have been discussed at length in this newsgroup.
>
> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
> > telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
> > both
> > running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
> > recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
> > that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
> > what i
> > can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
> > defender?
>
>
>

Because you may not have an anti-virus program installed.

"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4308C7B9-BC0C-4FAB-90A3-AA8ABAA39AE0@microsoft.com...
> My security center says "Spyware and other malware
> protection"......"Windows
> Defender is turned off." I have Defender running and turned on. It
> currently
> runs scheduled scans and I have had no other problems with it. I am just
> trying to figure out why the security center is not recognizing that it is
> running.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
>> Windows Defender is not an anti-virus program. It is an anti-spyware
>> program.
>> You will not have an anti-virus program unless you download one that
>> works
>> on Vista. Such programs have been discussed at length in this newsgroup.
>>
>> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center
>> > is
>> > telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
>> > both
>> > running (security center and defender), but the security center does
>> > not
>> > recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning
>> > message
>> > that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
>> > what i
>> > can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
>> > defender?
>>
>>
>>

I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security Center.
It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn it
on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?
"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
> Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
> telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
> both
> running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
> recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
> that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
> what i
> can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
> defender?

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:14:54 -0400, "Charlie" <Charlie@Nowhere.com>
wrote:

>I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security Center.
>It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn it
>on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
>Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?

I had issues with the Security Centre, mainly its very annoying and
unecessary for experienced users to have this service running and
whining in the system tray. I can see the point for non savvy users
but I hate the thing.

Used this fix to remove it altogether

from http://www.chris123nt.com/guides/5365/

The tweaks there work for 5484 also.
QUOTE

Get Rid of The Nagging Windows Security Center Icon

The Windows Security Center has been one of the biggest annoyances
since the inception of the idea with Windows XP Service Pack 2. Now
with Windows Vista™ it is new, improved, and even more annoying than
ever before! Untill now, you could not get rid of the icon from your
tray.

Here's how to nuke Security Center off your system. This has been
tested and there are no adverse effects from doing this.

1. Go to Start --> Run and type "cmd" without the quotes.
2. Type "cd\" followed by "cd windows\system32".
3. Now run the following commands:
* takeown /f wscapi.dll
* takeown /f wscsvc.dll
* takeown /f wscui.cpl
4. Now you have ownership of the files. Go into the system32
directory in explorer and right click each file, go to the security
tab and add an entry for everyone and give them full access
permissions.
5. Disable the Security Center Service via services.msc if you have
not already done so.
6. In the system32 folder rename the three mentioned dll's (change
their file extension to .bak).
7. To get rid of the Security Center service from services.msc drop
to a command prompt and type the following:
* "REG DELETE HKLM\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVICES\WSCSVC
/F", hit enter and reboot.
8. Enjoy no more nagging or icon in your system tray!
ENDQUOTE

Jonah

>"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
>> Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
>> telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
>> both
>> running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
>> recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
>> that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
>> what i
>> can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
>> defender?

Thanks Charlie, that's exactly what I am experiencing. Anyone have any ideas
on how to fix this?

"Charlie" wrote:

> I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security Center.
> It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn it
> on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
> Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?
> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
> > Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center is
> > telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
> > both
> > running (security center and defender), but the security center does not
> > recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning message
> > that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
> > what i
> > can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
> > defender?
>
>

I had this issue after running VISTA for a few days. It started after a
re-boot from a "blue screen", but I never did find the cause or a fix. I
reloaded VISTA a week ago and, so far, the problem has not reappeared (both
the initial installation and the reload were on a clean, formatted drive).
Please send a feedback report to MS as it may help them debug this problem.


"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8ED6968F-3E27-473B-98C3-FD2D9A58E308@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Charlie, that's exactly what I am experiencing. Anyone have any
> ideas
> on how to fix this?
>
> "Charlie" wrote:
>
>> I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security
>> Center.
>> It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn
>> it
>> on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
>> Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?
>> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center
>> > is
>> > telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
>> > both
>> > running (security center and defender), but the security center does
>> > not
>> > recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning
>> > message
>> > that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
>> > what i
>> > can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
>> > defender?
>>
>>

I had this issue after running VISTA for a few days. It started after a
re-boot from a "blue screen", but I never did find the cause or a fix. I
reloaded VISTA a week ago and, so far, the problem has not reappeared (both
the initial installation and the reload were on a clean, formatted drive).
Please send a feedback report to MS as it may help them debug this problem.


"Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8ED6968F-3E27-473B-98C3-FD2D9A58E308@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Charlie, that's exactly what I am experiencing. Anyone have any
> ideas
> on how to fix this?
>
> "Charlie" wrote:
>
>> I believe Chris may be referring to Malware under Windows Security
>> Center.
>> It shows Windows Defender as being turned off and does not let you turn
>> it
>> on. Windows Defender is loaded at start up but not recognized in the
>> Security Center. Anyone else have this issue?
>> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5725A4E3-FD74-42E1-853B-1AAE19088BD3@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi. I installed Windows Vista, however, ever since, my Security Center
>> > is
>> > telling me that Defender is not installed/turned off. I currently have
>> > both
>> > running (security center and defender), but the security center does
>> > not
>> > recognize defender. Everytime I start my computer i get a warning
>> > message
>> > that there is no virus protection/malware protection. Does anyone know
>> > what i
>> > can do to make the security center to recognize the already running
>> > defender?
>>
>>