Vista - RAID0 question

I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard supports
RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
reinstallation?
Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard BIOS?
Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista installation?
Thanks.

Sumer Yamaner

RAID 0 is not worth the effort. You will see a slight improvemant in
read/write speeds. All it does is stripe everything over 2 or more Disks.
What that means is that you have part of a file on one drive and part of the
same file on another. In case of one drive failing, you have lost the lot.

RAID 1 is better, as it makes a mirror copy of everything that is one the
first Disk. The complete file is written to the one place, and a copy made to
the other drive.


"Sumer Yamaner" wrote:

> I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard supports
> RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
> again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
> reinstallation?
> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard BIOS?
> Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista installation?
> Thanks.
>
> Sumer Yamaner
>
>

OK I know these technical details and I always use multiple backups of my
data. What I need is an increase in HDD performance. I think RAID0 is the
simplest way to do it.
I just want to know technical details on how to do it.
Thanks for the advice.

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
news:A599EE67-4B5B-4D8C-B250-B85DC01D2D27@microsoft.com...
> RAID 0 is not worth the effort. You will see a slight improvemant in
> read/write speeds. All it does is stripe everything over 2 or more Disks.
> What that means is that you have part of a file on one drive and part of
> the
> same file on another. In case of one drive failing, you have lost the lot.
>
> RAID 1 is better, as it makes a mirror copy of everything that is one the
> first Disk. The complete file is written to the one place, and a copy made
> to
> the other drive.
>
>
> "Sumer Yamaner" wrote:
>
>> I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard
>> supports
>> RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
>> again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>> reinstallation?
>> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
>> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard
>> BIOS?
>> Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista installation?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sumer Yamaner
>>
>>

"Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uCbEZ4o0HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> OK I know these technical details and I always use multiple backups of my
> data. What I need is an increase in HDD performance. I think RAID0 is the
> simplest way to do it.
> I just want to know technical details on how to do it.
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com>, iletisinde þunu
> yazdý, news:A599EE67-4B5B-4D8C-B250-B85DC01D2D27@microsoft.com...
>> RAID 0 is not worth the effort. You will see a slight improvemant in
>> read/write speeds. All it does is stripe everything over 2 or more Disks.
>> What that means is that you have part of a file on one drive and part of
>> the
>> same file on another. In case of one drive failing, you have lost the
>> lot.
>>
>> RAID 1 is better, as it makes a mirror copy of everything that is one the
>> first Disk. The complete file is written to the one place, and a copy
>> made to
>> the other drive.
>>
>>
>> "Sumer Yamaner" wrote:
>>
>>> I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard
>>> supports
>>> RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install
>>> Vista
>>> again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>>> reinstallation?
>>> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
>>> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard
>>> BIOS?
>>> Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista
>>> installation?
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Sumer Yamaner
>>>
>>>
>
>
I prefer to install two internal drives and rely on plug in drives for
back-up/expansion. Raid is of mixed blessing.

--
Ian

Thank you for all the replies but I don't want to know whether RAID0 is a
good alternative, what I want to know is exactly HOW TO DO IT.
Thanks again...

"Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
news:ukZYOTo0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard supports
>RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
>again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>reinstallation?
> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard BIOS?
> Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista installation?
> Thanks.
>
> Sumer Yamaner

You will need to re-install Vista if you RAID the system drive in your BIOS.
You may need a driver disk (external media) if the chipset is not known by
the OS on install. (Intel P965 or newer Nforces will require it).

Vista sees the drives as a single HDD with all the normal options. You can
manage the drives withing the OS with a chipset utility if the driver owner
provide one.

Short, but I hope this helps.

....

Al


"Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uCbEZ4o0HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> OK I know these technical details and I always use multiple backups of my
>> data. What I need is an increase in HDD performance. I think RAID0 is the
>> simplest way to do it.
>> I just want to know technical details on how to do it.
>> Thanks for the advice.
>>
>> "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com>, iletisinde þunu
>> yazdý, news:A599EE67-4B5B-4D8C-B250-B85DC01D2D27@microsoft.com...
>>> RAID 0 is not worth the effort. You will see a slight improvemant in
>>> read/write speeds. All it does is stripe everything over 2 or more
>>> Disks.
>>> What that means is that you have part of a file on one drive and part of
>>> the
>>> same file on another. In case of one drive failing, you have lost the
>>> lot.
>>>
>>> RAID 1 is better, as it makes a mirror copy of everything that is one
>>> the
>>> first Disk. The complete file is written to the one place, and a copy
>>> made to
>>> the other drive.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Sumer Yamaner" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard
>>>> supports
>>>> RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install
>>>> Vista
>>>> again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>>>> reinstallation?
>>>> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
>>>> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard
>>>> BIOS?
>>>> Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista
>>>> installation?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Sumer Yamaner
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
> I prefer to install two internal drives and rely on plug in drives for
> back-up/expansion. Raid is of mixed blessing.
>
> --
> Ian

"Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OucBLbq0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for all the replies but I don't want to know whether RAID0 is a
> good alternative, what I want to know is exactly HOW TO DO IT.
> Thanks again...

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If you google you question... ie.
"Setting up Raid on Vista" you'll find many more sites too.

In article <uCbEZ4o0HHA.5772@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,
syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com says...
> What I need is an increase in HDD performance. I think RAID0 is the
> simplest way to do it.

The RAID controller built into most motherboards is often a poor
performance device and more for marketing. I bet you would not see a
significant increase in performance, at least no enough to make it worth
doing.

Get a real RAID Card, one with 128MB or 256MB of onboard memory, then
you'll see a performance increase - just make sure the card is a PCIe or
PCIx type card.

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"Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OucBLbq0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for all the replies but I don't want to know whether RAID0 is a
> good alternative, what I want to know is exactly HOW TO DO IT.
> Thanks again...
>
> "Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
> news:ukZYOTo0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard supports
>>RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
>>again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>>reinstallation?
>> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
>> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard
>> BIOS? Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista
>> installation?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sumer Yamaner
>


There is no step by step answer as there are too many variables. Are you
using hardware or software RAID? What hard drive controller are you using?
It sounds like you are using an onboard RAID controller on your motherboard.
If this is the case then yes, you will need a Vista driver for this
controller. And yes, you will have to reinstall Vista as creating a RAID 0
array will erase everything on the current drive. RAID 0 has no redundancy
so it can't be created on the fly.

As many people have pointed out. RAID 0 is not worth the effort in most
cases. You are greatly increasing your odds of data loss at some point for a
minimal speed increase. There are probably much safer ways to increase the
speed of your computer.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca

You could try backing up your current HD with Acronis true image, then
create the new HD (raid0) and then use acronis to restore the image to the
new HD.

Acronis isn't free but willl probably work in your instance.

Good luck,

Jeff

"Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OucBLbq0HHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Thank you for all the replies but I don't want to know whether RAID0 is a
> good alternative, what I want to know is exactly HOW TO DO IT.
> Thanks again...
>
> "Sumer Yamaner" <syamaner_DELETE_@hotmail.com>, iletisinde þunu yazdý,
> news:ukZYOTo0HHA.4928@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I am running Vista Home Premium with a single HDD. My motherboard supports
>>RAID configurations. To use a RAID0 configuration I have to install Vista
>>again. Right? Is there a way to use the existing Vista setup without
>>reinstallation?
>> Another question is: Does Vista setup recognize my RAID0 setup during
>> installation if I make the necessarry adjustments in the motherboard
>> BIOS? Do I need a third party driver before proceeding with Vista
>> installation?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Sumer Yamaner
>