Vista - First Vista Printer USB or Local?

08-03-2007

It would appear that you need to either get someone to help you set up your
current printer or buy one with Vista drivers (and make sure it has the X86
or X64 drivers that match your os {X86, I hope})

"MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:eXAjXmZ1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Thank you,

Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23.

How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series)
Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup??

In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a
compatible driver, or not?

Curious
Maria

--

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:OJYmwQO1HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Hi,
|
| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.
|
| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?
|
| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-per...29:1:0:285:0:0
|
| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
| said to be discountinued.
|
| These are models compatible with Vista:
|
|
http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/seque...9_0_en,00.html
|
| Sorry and good luck.
|
|
| "Maria MS" <maria.steyn@orange.nl> wrote in message
| news:O7vg4CN1HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under
Other
| devices.
| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
| for that reason.
|
| How to proceed?
|
| Maria
|
|
|
|
| "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> schreef in bericht
| news:ODrFAoD1HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up
and
| finish the install.
| "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
| news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Hi,
|
| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
| printer?
|
| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible
nor
| addressable under Printers.
|
| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
| first printer?
|
| Is there a workaround?
|
| Curious,
| Maria
|
|

08-03-2007

I feel the pain but that happened to my HP 2610 as well until HP came out
Vista driver for it (but still required a few tweaks).

Rant: 12 years after the introduction of Plug and Play, we still can't make
simple things like this as smoothly as possible. Software still blames
hardware, and vice versa, and we are still living in DOS era as far as for
the plug & play concept goes.

Sorry but you have little alternatives other than following John Barnes's
advise.

Good luck.

"MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:eXAjXmZ1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
Thank you,

Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23.

How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series)
Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup??

In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a
compatible driver, or not?

Curious
Maria

--

"xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:OJYmwQO1HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Hi,
|
| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you.
|
| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23?
|
| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-per...29:1:0:285:0:0
|
| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is
| said to be discountinued.
|
| These are models compatible with Vista:
|
|
http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/seque...9_0_en,00.html
|
| Sorry and good luck.
|
|
| "Maria MS" <maria.steyn@orange.nl> wrote in message
| news:O7vg4CN1HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
| The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine.
| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under
Other
| devices.
| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected.
| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print
| for that reason.
|
| How to proceed?
|
| Maria
|
|
|
|
| "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> schreef in bericht
| news:ODrFAoD1HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
| Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb
| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up
and
| finish the install.
| "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
| news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
| Hi,
|
| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
| printer?
|
| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible
nor
| addressable under Printers.
|
| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
| first printer?
|
| Is there a workaround?
|
| Curious,
| Maria
|
|

08-05-2007

Just discovered Vista's Troubleshooting Centre Problems/Solutions etc.
Very helpful feature; I will look there next time ;-))

It reports 'having recognized a Lexmark Z23 etc. printer, though cannot find a suitable driver.'
Probleem met handtekening

Naam van probleemgebeurtenis: PnPDriverNotFound

Architectuur: x86

Hardware-id: USBPRINT\LexmarkLexmark_Z23-Z7FE8

Versie van besturingssysteem: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3

Landinstelling-id: 1043

Cute!
So Vista 'reads' the device properties, shows them in Device manager and made me assume it therefore had to have the driver too. Wrong.

xfile posted that unfortunately there is no Vista compatible Z23 driver available...
I will do some testing and probably hook up another printer.

Thanks all for your contributions.
Learning every day...
Maria

"MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> schreef in bericht news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Hi,

Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers.

Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

Is there a workaround?

Curious,
Maria

09-15-2007

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

Quote:

> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:32:10 +0200, "MS" <maria.steyn@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>

Quote:

> > Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer?

>
>
>
> Certainly it *does*.
>
>

Quote:

> > My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but
> > not visible nor addressable under Printers.

>
>
>
> Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the
> software part of the installation?
>
>

Quote:

> > Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer?

>
>
> No.
>
>

Quote:

> > Is there a workaround?

>
>
> No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done
> this successfully.
>

Quote:

> > Curious,
> > Maria

>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

Ken,
I'm an IT Professional of 20 years and have done everything right by the
manual but can't get Vista to recognize my printer, so I would venture to say
that thousands or millions of people are also experiencing problems. Remember
the little bug that killed USBs when upgrading from XP to XP professional?
I'm only glad that Microsoft acknowledges it's bugs more esily than you do!

09-15-2007

If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on every
web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?

You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As said IT
professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the printer
software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - reading the
help file this time.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

"Tom Bonavia" <Tom Bonavia@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BC443482-5736-4B81-8B59-192A15C1F986@xxxxxx

Quote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:32:10 +0200, "MS" <maria.steyn@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>

Quote:

>> > Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first
>> > printer?

>>
>>
>>
>> Certainly it *does*.
>>
>>

Quote:

>> > My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but
>> > not visible nor addressable under Printers.

>>
>>
>>
>> Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the
>> software part of the installation?
>>
>>

Quote:

>> > Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a
>> > first printer?

>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>>

Quote:

>> > Is there a workaround?

>>
>>
>> No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done
>> this successfully.
>>

Quote:

>> > Curious,
>> > Maria

>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>

>
> Ken,
> I'm an IT Professional of 20 years and have done everything right by the
> manual but can't get Vista to recognize my printer, so I would venture to
> say
> that thousands or millions of people are also experiencing problems.
> Remember
> the little bug that killed USBs when upgrading from XP to XP professional?
> I'm only glad that Microsoft acknowledges it's bugs more esily than you
> do!

09-15-2007

Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

> If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
> hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on
> every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?
>
> You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As
> said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the
> printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again -
> reading the help file this time.
>

More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption
that any problems with Vista are the user's fault.

There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer,
the incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release
MOST users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix
what's broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't).

09-15-2007

Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
about printer support.

So, why don't you keep it on topic.

If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can not
install a printer - OH WELL!

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23y4O1Z69HHA.5316@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

>> If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
>> hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on
>> every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?
>>
>> You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As said
>> IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the printer
>> software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - reading the
>> help file this time.
>>

>
>
> More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption that
> any problems with Vista are the user's fault.
>
> There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer, the
> incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release MOST
> users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix what's
> broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't).
>
>
>

09-15-2007

Hear, hear. :-)

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23VWkBp69HHA.3548@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
> about printer support.
>
> So, why don't you keep it on topic.
>
> If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can
> not install a printer - OH WELL!
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23y4O1Z69HHA.5316@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

>>> If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would
>>> hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on
>>> every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you?
>>>
>>> You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As
>>> said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the
>>> printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again -
>>> reading the help file this time.
>>>

>>
>>
>> More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption that
>> any problems with Vista are the user's fault.
>>
>> There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer,
>> the incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release
>> MOST users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix
>> what's broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't).
>>
>>
>>

>

09-15-2007

Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

> Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
> about printer support.
>
> So, why don't you keep it on topic.
>
> If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can
> not install a printer - OH WELL!
>

The topic WAS printers, the bit above here is called the "Subject"

09-15-2007

Thanks for stepping in Charlie but there's obviously no help for some people!
There are a bunch of hotfixes for various non-existant USB problems at this
URL:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;936003
I haven't had time to try them but they probably won't hurt.

If anyone has useful suggestions beyond the normal troubleshooting (I've
uninstalled everything including the USB ports themselves, tried different
cables, etc.) I'd love to know. I have a 'Vista certified' Canon i860 and an
Acer Aspire 5610-4648 with Vista Home Premium and all the latest updates. It
sees the device when I connect the printer and loads the drivers but does not
create any printer instance that I can actually print to. I can manually add
a printer and change the port to USB but that doesn't do anything.

"Charlie Tame" wrote:

Quote:

> Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

> > Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent
> > about printer support.
> >
> > So, why don't you keep it on topic.
> >
> > If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can
> > not install a printer - OH WELL!
> >

>
>
> The topic WAS printers, the bit above here is called the "Subject"
>

08-03-2007	#11 (permalink)
John Barnes n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? It would appear that you need to either get someone to help you set up your current printer or buy one with Vista drivers (and make sure it has the X86 or X64 drivers that match your os {X86, I hope}) "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:eXAjXmZ1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Thank you, Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23. How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series) Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup?? In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a compatible driver, or not? Curious Maria -- "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> schreef in bericht news:OJYmwQO1HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... \| Hi, \| \| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you. \| \| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23? \| \| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-per...29:1:0:285:0:0 \| \| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is \| said to be discountinued. \| \| These are models compatible with Vista: \| \| http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/seque...9_0_en,00.html \| \| Sorry and good luck. \| \| \| "Maria MS" <maria.steyn@orange.nl> wrote in message \| news:O7vg4CN1HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... \| The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine. \| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other \| devices. \| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected. \| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print \| for that reason. \| \| How to proceed? \| \| Maria \| \| \| \| \| "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> schreef in bericht \| news:ODrFAoD1HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... \| Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb \| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and \| finish the install. \| "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message \| news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... \| Hi, \| \| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first \| printer? \| \| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor \| addressable under Printers. \| \| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a \| first printer? \| \| Is there a workaround? \| \| Curious, \| Maria \| \|
My System Specs

08-03-2007	#12 (permalink)
xfile n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? I feel the pain but that happened to my HP 2610 as well until HP came out Vista driver for it (but still required a few tweaks). Rant: 12 years after the introduction of Plug and Play, we still can't make simple things like this as smoothly as possible. Software still blames hardware, and vice versa, and we are still living in DOS era as far as for the plug & play concept goes. Sorry but you have little alternatives other than following John Barnes's advise. Good luck. "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:eXAjXmZ1HHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... Thank you, Yes, it is a Lexmark Z23. How come it is correctly recognized in Device Manager as a Z23-Z33 (series) Printer though not functioning through Printer Setup?? In order to be recognized as the correct printer there surely must be a compatible driver, or not? Curious Maria -- "xfile" <cou-cou@remove.nospam.com> schreef in bericht news:OJYmwQO1HHA.5380@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... \| Hi, \| \| Maybe it's not a good news, but I have to tell you. \| \| Is this your printer - Lexmark Z23? \| \| http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-per...29:1:0:285:0:0 \| \| If so, it does't have a Vista driver, and I doubt it will have since it is \| said to be discountinued. \| \| These are models compatible with Vista: \| \| http://www.lexmark.com/lexmark/seque...9_0_en,00.html \| \| Sorry and good luck. \| \| \| "Maria MS" <maria.steyn@orange.nl> wrote in message \| news:O7vg4CN1HHA.4184@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... \| The manual said: hook up first on a USB port and then run the machine. \| The printer is properly recognized by its name in Device Manager under Other \| devices. \| It makes a dingdong sound when dis/connected. \| I just cannot attach it to Printers in the Printer setting menu nor print \| for that reason. \| \| How to proceed? \| \| Maria \| \| \| \| \| "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> schreef in bericht \| news:ODrFAoD1HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... \| Did you run the set up program properly? You usually leave the usb \| printer disconnected until asked for by the install program, hook it up and \| finish the install. \| "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message \| news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... \| Hi, \| \| Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first \| printer? \| \| My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor \| addressable under Printers. \| \| Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a \| first printer? \| \| Is there a workaround? \| \| Curious, \| Maria \| \|
My System Specs

08-05-2007	#13 (permalink)
Maria MS n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? - SOLVED - Just discovered Vista's Troubleshooting Centre Problems/Solutions etc. Very helpful feature; I will look there next time ;-)) It reports 'having recognized a Lexmark Z23 etc. printer, though cannot find a suitable driver.' Probleem met handtekening Naam van probleemgebeurtenis: PnPDriverNotFound Architectuur: x86 Hardware-id: USBPRINT\LexmarkLexmark_Z23-Z7FE8 Versie van besturingssysteem: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.768.3 Landinstelling-id: 1043 Cute! So Vista 'reads' the device properties, shows them in Device manager and made me assume it therefore had to have the driver too. Wrong. xfile posted that unfortunately there is no Vista compatible Z23 driver available... I will do some testing and probably hook up another printer. Thanks all for your contributions. Learning every day... Maria "MS" <maria.steyn@wanadoo.nl> schreef in bericht news:%23tnpq%23C1HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... Hi, Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer? My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but not visible nor addressable under Printers. Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer? Is there a workaround? Curious, Maria
My System Specs

09-15-2007	#14 (permalink)
Tom Bonavia n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: Quote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:32:10 +0200, "MS" <maria.steyn@xxxxxx> > wrote: > > Quote: > > Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first printer? > > > > Certainly it does. > > Quote: > > My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but > > not visible nor addressable under Printers. > > > > Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the > software part of the installation? > > Quote: > > Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a first printer? > > > No. > > Quote: > > Is there a workaround? > > > No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done > this successfully. > Quote: > > Curious, > > Maria > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User > Please Reply to the Newsgroup > Ken, I'm an IT Professional of 20 years and have done everything right by the manual but can't get Vista to recognize my printer, so I would venture to say that thousands or millions of people are also experiencing problems. Remember the little bug that killed USBs when upgrading from XP to XP professional? I'm only glad that Microsoft acknowledges it's bugs more esily than you do!
My System Specs

09-15-2007	#15 (permalink)
Richard Urban n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you? You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - reading the help file this time. -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) "Tom Bonavia" <Tom Bonavia@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BC443482-5736-4B81-8B59-192A15C1F986@xxxxxx Quote: > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote: > Quote: >> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:32:10 +0200, "MS" <maria.steyn@xxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >> Quote: >> > Does Vista Home Premium NOT accept a USB printer as its only/first >> > printer? >> >> >> >> Certainly it does. >> >> Quote: >> > My Lexmark Z23-33 is recognized by the USB function but >> > not visible nor addressable under Printers. >> >> >> >> Then you haven't installed it correctly. Exactly how did you do the >> software part of the installation? >> >> Quote: >> > Do I really need an old 'local' printer with the big connector as a >> > first printer? >> >> >> No. >> >> Quote: >> > Is there a workaround? >> >> >> No workaround is needed. Many thousand or millions of people have done >> this successfully. >> Quote: >> > Curious, >> > Maria >> >> -- >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup >> > > Ken, > I'm an IT Professional of 20 years and have done everything right by the > manual but can't get Vista to recognize my printer, so I would venture to > say > that thousands or millions of people are also experiencing problems. > Remember > the little bug that killed USBs when upgrading from XP to XP professional? > I'm only glad that Microsoft acknowledges it's bugs more esily than you > do!
My System Specs

09-15-2007	#16 (permalink)
Charlie Tame n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? Richard Urban wrote: Quote: > If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would > hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on > every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you? > > You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As > said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the > printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - > reading the help file this time. > More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption that any problems with Vista are the user's fault. There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer, the incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release MOST users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix what's broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't).
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09-15-2007	#17 (permalink)
Richard Urban n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent about printer support. So, why don't you keep it on topic. If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can not install a printer - OH WELL! -- Regards, Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User (For email, remove the obvious from my address) "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23y4O1Z69HHA.5316@xxxxxx Quote: > Richard Urban wrote: Quote: >> If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would >> hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on >> every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you? >> >> You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As said >> IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the printer >> software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - reading the >> help file this time. >> > > > More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption that > any problems with Vista are the user's fault. > > There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer, the > incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release MOST > users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix what's > broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't). > > >
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09-15-2007	#18 (permalink)
John Barnes n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? Hear, hear. :-) "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23VWkBp69HHA.3548@xxxxxx Quote: > Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent > about printer support. > > So, why don't you keep it on topic. > > If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can > not install a printer - OH WELL! > > -- > > > Regards, > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User > (For email, remove the obvious from my address) > > > "Charlie Tame" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23y4O1Z69HHA.5316@xxxxxx Quote: >> Richard Urban wrote: Quote: >>> If a USB printer could not be connected, and used, under Vista you would >>> hear a general howling - and it would be on every news station and on >>> every web site. You don't hear or see this this, do you? >>> >>> You have done something wrong as an IT professional of 20+ years. As >>> said IT professional of 20+ years, you should know to uninstall the >>> printer software, disconnect the printer, reboot - and start again - >>> reading the help file this time. >>> >> >> >> More insults from Richard... again based on the automatic assumption that >> any problems with Vista are the user's fault. >> >> There is a "Howling" about WGA, WPA, the poor performance of Explorer, >> the incompatibility issues and the fact that just months after release >> MOST users are hoping a service pack is soon released that will fix >> what's broken (Although like XP SP1 it probably won't). >> >> >> >
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09-15-2007	#19 (permalink)
Charlie Tame n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? Richard Urban wrote: Quote: > Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent > about printer support. > > So, why don't you keep it on topic. > > If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can > not install a printer - OH WELL! > The topic WAS printers, the bit above here is called the "Subject"
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09-15-2007	#20 (permalink)
Tom Bonavia n/a posts	Re: First Vista Printer USB or Local? Thanks for stepping in Charlie but there's obviously no help for some people! There are a bunch of hotfixes for various non-existant USB problems at this URL: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;936003 I haven't had time to try them but they probably won't hurt. If anyone has useful suggestions beyond the normal troubleshooting (I've uninstalled everything including the USB ports themselves, tried different cables, etc.) I'd love to know. I have a 'Vista certified' Canon i860 and an Acer Aspire 5610-4648 with Vista Home Premium and all the latest updates. It sees the device when I connect the printer and loads the drivers but does not create any printer instance that I can actually print to. I can manually add a printer and change the port to USB but that doesn't do anything. "Charlie Tame" wrote: Quote: > Richard Urban wrote: Quote: > > Right. There is a howling about that. But there is no general discontent > > about printer support. > > > > So, why don't you keep it on topic. > > > > If the guy is insulted because HE points out his 20 years in IT, yet can > > not install a printer - OH WELL! > > > > > The topic WAS printers, the bit above here is called the "Subject" >
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