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Steve, i can link with ftp://ftp.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk, but isn't this
still ftp
--
brelade


"Steve Easton" wrote:

> Ok,
> how about:
> ftp://ftp.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
>
>
>
> --
>
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> FP Cleaner
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> Hit Me FP
> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>
> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1EE862DD-30CC-4294-B798-4A86E4253B8B@microsoft.com...
> > Steve many thanks - no joy
> > --
> > brelade
> >
> >
> > "Steve Easton" wrote:
> >
> >> I've never used publisher but,
> >> instead of trying to add ftp://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
> >> to network places, try adding
> >> www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Steve Easton
> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> >> FP Cleaner
> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> >> Hit Me FP
> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
> >>
> >> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:28319072-734A-4BD1-8F68-74B2590AE4F4@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am using MS Publisher 2007, and i am trying to connect to my server
> >> > (1and1.co.uk)
> >> >
> >> > I am having no peroblem in getting site uploaded and on the the web, but at
> >> > present it is not in the correct format for the response form on my contact
> >> > page to work, all other functions work ok, but i draw your attension the the
> >> > response from Microsoft regarding this form and http.
> >> > I have used wiseftp / filezilla, and an currently uploading to my server via
> >> > add new network connection on my computer, but all in ftp.
> >> > --
> >> > brelade
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Steve Easton" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> What "program" are you using to try to publish?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> Steve Easton
> >> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> >> >> FP Cleaner
> >> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
> >> >> Hit Me FP
> >> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:AC5CA151-222C-414C-815C-27918439B86E@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have posted this question several times with no takers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am trying to establish a connection to my web server in http, with add new
> >> >> > network connection, it will only accept an address in ftp.
> >> >> > Is there a reason why i cannot input an http address.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > With XP in was in my network places, but the ability has been removed in
> >> >> > Vista.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have manage to establish a network connect with my web server by "add
> >> >> > Network Location", but with Vista I can only find an ftp:// way of uploading
> >> >> > to my web server with add a network:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My web site requires to be uploaded with HTTP uploading protocol with FPSE,
> >> >> > but when I Specify the location of my website following the on screen
> >> >> > prompts, it will not allow me to input an http address, below are the
> >> >> > examples given from the wizard during the add network location process
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It gives examples:
> >> >> > 1. \\server\share (Share folder)
> >> >> > 2. http://webserver/share ; (Web share)
> >> >> > 3. ftp://mysite.co.uk (ftp site)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The address I would like to add is: http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
> >> >> >
> >> >> > When I try to input http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk ; it returns "the
> >> >> > folder you entered does not appear to be valid, please choose another".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Many thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > brelade
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

I'd like to point you to the following information, before you continue
giving advice on FTP transfer & data formats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Tr...ol#Data_format

Regards,
Doug

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.211e372d4b5f695e98989a@adfree.Usenet.com...
> In article <juo8b3drrh1osma52aeai6on9986br93a0@4ax.com>,
> marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...
>> Why, what is wrong with this method?
>>
>> I personally use this Vista method to upload files to my web site.
>> Piece of cake, just Copy/Paste the files to the network connection.
>> What could be easier?
>
> Because it doesn't work with all hosting companies and FTP works with
> all properly configured solutions by all companies.
>
> --
>
> Leythos
> - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
> - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
> drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.211e8f88cfef96a79898a0@adfree.Usenet.com...
> In article <F9336424-D1DF-4CFC-8651-EFDD47080C53@microsoft.com>,
> brelade@discussions.microsoft.com says...
>> i have done my research with Microsoft and have been told ftp will corrupt
>> FPSE, it needs to be in http!!!!!!!!!. AM I THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD that
>> has Publisher & response form on it using Vista.
>
> Publisher is a graphics program, not a web page layout program.
>
> As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.

No it isn't.
The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
on the server for the form to work.
> No person designing websites used Publisher to PUSH content to the site,
> at least not any person that cares.
>
> FTP IS THE PROPER METHOD AND WORKS NO MATTER WHAT PLATFORM YOU DESIGN
> IN.
>
Not true

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

In article <erk2dBt1HHA.5992@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Doug" <Doug
<dougti@discussions.microsoft.com> says...
> I'd like to point you to the following information, before you continue
> giving advice on FTP transfer & data formats.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Tr...ol#Data_format

And I would like to point out that FTP will work just fine, but not from
within Publisher - the output can be exported to a folder and that
folder can be uploaded by FTP to the site.

That's the problem with people that don't use the proper tools for the
access they have - they don't get the results they want.

As for understanding FTP, lets just say that I've been using FTP since
the very early 80's and completely understand what FTP is and does, even
better than the "User Contribution" site you provided a link to.

The problem is that the person is not using a Web Site authoring
program, doesn't understand how to export the site, and only understand
the MS way of doing things - which MOST of the web hosting world doesn't
follow.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

In article <OGnhnpt1HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
says...
> > As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.
>
> No it isn't.
> The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
> Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
> on the server for the form to work.

If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
fine.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

Ok,

I'm in Vista.

Right click the network icon on the desktop.
Select "Map network drive."
In the "Map Network drive dialog" click :
"Connect to a website that you can use to store your documents and pictures"

Enter http://www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk

You will be prompted for user name and password,
and when entered the link will be created in Computer.

However, if the extensions are corrupt on the server, and they probably are if you've published using ftp://
have your host restore / repair / reinstall the extensions.
Then make your new network place using the above procedure.


--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm



"brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4A0F3304-6741-42E9-8CA0-31FF682A35A0@microsoft.com...
> Steve, i can link with ftp://ftp.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk, but isn't this
> still ftp
> --
> brelade
>
>
> "Steve Easton" wrote:
>
>> Ok,
>> how about:
>> ftp://ftp.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Steve Easton
>> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> FP Cleaner
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>> Hit Me FP
>> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>>
>> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1EE862DD-30CC-4294-B798-4A86E4253B8B@microsoft.com...
>> > Steve many thanks - no joy
>> > --
>> > brelade
>> >
>> >
>> > "Steve Easton" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've never used publisher but,
>> >> instead of trying to add ftp://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
>> >> to network places, try adding
>> >> www.breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Steve Easton
>> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> >> FP Cleaner
>> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>> >> Hit Me FP
>> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>> >>
>> >> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:28319072-734A-4BD1-8F68-74B2590AE4F4@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I am using MS Publisher 2007, and i am trying to connect to my server
>> >> > (1and1.co.uk)
>> >> >
>> >> > I am having no peroblem in getting site uploaded and on the the web, but at
>> >> > present it is not in the correct format for the response form on my contact
>> >> > page to work, all other functions work ok, but i draw your attension the the
>> >> > response from Microsoft regarding this form and http.
>> >> > I have used wiseftp / filezilla, and an currently uploading to my server via
>> >> > add new network connection on my computer, but all in ftp.
>> >> > --
>> >> > brelade
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Easton" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> What "program" are you using to try to publish?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Steve Easton
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> >> >> FP Cleaner
>> >> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
>> >> >> Hit Me FP
>> >> >> http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "brelade" <brelade@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:AC5CA151-222C-414C-815C-27918439B86E@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have posted this question several times with no takers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am trying to establish a connection to my web server in http, with add new
>> >> >> > network connection, it will only accept an address in ftp.
>> >> >> > Is there a reason why i cannot input an http address.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > With XP in was in my network places, but the ability has been removed in
>> >> >> > Vista.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have manage to establish a network connect with my web server by "add
>> >> >> > Network Location", but with Vista I can only find an ftp:// way of uploading
>> >> >> > to my web server with add a network:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > My web site requires to be uploaded with HTTP uploading protocol with FPSE,
>> >> >> > but when I Specify the location of my website following the on screen
>> >> >> > prompts, it will not allow me to input an http address, below are the
>> >> >> > examples given from the wizard during the add network location process
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It gives examples:
>> >> >> > 1. \\server\share (Share folder)
>> >> >> > 2. http://webserver/share ; (Web share)
>> >> >> > 3. ftp://mysite.co.uk (ftp site)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The address I would like to add is: http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > When I try to input http://breladecockerspaniels.co.uk ; it returns "the
>> >> >> > folder you entered does not appear to be valid, please choose another".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Many thanks
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > brelade
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.211eb68ee85f9b649898a2@adfree.Usenet.com...
> In article <OGnhnpt1HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
> says...
>> > As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.
>>
>> No it isn't.
>> The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
>> Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
>> on the server for the form to work.
>
> If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
> fine.

If using asp, asp.net or php correct.
But not if you're publishing a web bot created form generated using Publisher or FrontPage.
When publishing a web bot generated form using http, the necessary associated files are
"Created" on the server by the extensions.
They do not ever publish from the client to the server using http://, and using ftp
bypasses the extensions. Therefore the aforementioned web bot generated forms will "Never" work.

also fwiw, my first web was created with windows and notepad and dropped on the server
by dragging and dropping using Internet Explorer.

So, I "think" my understanding is just a tad deeper than clicking "Publish."

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

In article <OXt#T9t1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
says...
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.211eb68ee85f9b649898a2@adfree.Usenet.com...
> > In article <OGnhnpt1HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
> > says...
> >> > As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.
> >>
> >> No it isn't.
> >> The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
> >> Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
> >> on the server for the form to work.
> >
> > If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
> > fine.
>
> If using asp, asp.net or php correct.
> But not if you're publishing a web bot created form generated using Publisher or FrontPage.
> When publishing a web bot generated form using http, the necessary associated files are
> "Created" on the server by the extensions.
> They do not ever publish from the client to the server using http://, and using ftp
> bypasses the extensions. Therefore the aforementioned web bot generated forms will "Never" work.
>
> also fwiw, my first web was created with windows and notepad and dropped on the server
> by dragging and dropping using Internet Explorer.
>
> So, I "think" my understanding is just a tad deeper than clicking "Publish."

It appears I am very wrong, complete misunderstanding of the Publisher
functions. I apologize to the group, op, and thread readers.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.211ebff9ed399e9898a3@adfree.Usenet.com...
> In article <OXt#T9t1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
> says...
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message news:MPG.211eb68ee85f9b649898a2@adfree.Usenet.com...
>> > In article <OGnhnpt1HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, admin@95isalive.com
>> > says...
>> >> > As for FTP corrupting - pardon me, but that's BULL-SHIp.
>> >>
>> >> No it isn't.
>> >> The form in Publisher, or FrontPage requires the FPSE.
>> >> Publishing using ftp does "Not" transfer / create the necessary accompanying files
>> >> on the server for the form to work.
>> >
>> > If you understand more than just clicking "Publish" you can do it just
>> > fine.
>>
>> If using asp, asp.net or php correct.
>> But not if you're publishing a web bot created form generated using Publisher or FrontPage.
>> When publishing a web bot generated form using http, the necessary associated files are
>> "Created" on the server by the extensions.
>> They do not ever publish from the client to the server using http://, and using ftp
>> bypasses the extensions. Therefore the aforementioned web bot generated forms will "Never" work.
>>
>> also fwiw, my first web was created with windows and notepad and dropped on the server
>> by dragging and dropping using Internet Explorer.
>>
>> So, I "think" my understanding is just a tad deeper than clicking "Publish."
>
> It appears I am very wrong, complete misunderstanding of the Publisher
> functions. I apologize to the group, op, and thread readers.

Don't feel bad, you're not alone in misunderstanding the forms and ftp issues in Publisher and FP.
We get posts all of the time in the FP groups about broken forms.

That's one of the reasons web bot forms don't exist in Expression Web and SharePoint Designer.

--

Steve Easton
Microsoft MVP FrontPage
FP Cleaner
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/fpclean.htm
Hit Me FP
http://www.95isalive.com/fixes/HitMeFP.htm

Leythos [Sat, 4 Aug 2007 08:12:16 -0400] wrote:

>In article <juo8b3drrh1osma52aeai6on9986br93a0@4ax.com>,
>marco_desloovere@yahoo.com says...
>> Why, what is wrong with this method?
>>
>> I personally use this Vista method to upload files to my web site.
>> Piece of cake, just Copy/Paste the files to the network connection.
>> What could be easier?
>
>Because it doesn't work with all hosting companies and FTP works with
>all properly configured solutions by all companies.

OK, fair enough, then I guess that I'm just lucky, because the Vista
method works extremely well for me.

Marco