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Old 08-04-2007   #1 (permalink)
Al


 
 

Registry Cleaners

I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
again. I did with the same results. :-(

There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?

Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
that program from showing up in the install program list?

I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
deleted.

Al

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Old 08-04-2007   #2 (permalink)
Spirit


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

Get CCcleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner both are free.

http://www.ccleaner.com/

http://www.wisecleaner.com/

Although I consider both programs safe NEVER remove a registry
entry unless you are SURE exactly what it does. Easy enough to
research any suspected entries using Google.


"Al" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ol9b3dnn5eiu1dqnbpa2q8kfrq0bkq45s@4ax.com...
>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>
> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>
> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
> deleted.
>
> Al


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-04-2007   #3 (permalink)
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

I agree, but make sure you back up any entries you delete. CCleaner
provides and easy way to do this.

"Spirit" <noone@notthere.net> wrote in message
news:ubzwTJt1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Get CCcleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner both are free.
>
> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>
> http://www.wisecleaner.com/
>
> Although I consider both programs safe NEVER remove a registry
> entry unless you are SURE exactly what it does. Easy enough to
> research any suspected entries using Google.
>
>
> "Al" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1ol9b3dnn5eiu1dqnbpa2q8kfrq0bkq45s@4ax.com...
>>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
>> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
>> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
>> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
>> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
>> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
>> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>>
>> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
>> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
>> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>>
>> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
>> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
>> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
>> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>>
>> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
>> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
>> deleted.
>>
>> Al

>


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Old 08-04-2007   #4 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

Hi,

Don't rely on registry cleaners, they often mistakenly remove needed entries
in addition to unwanted ones. Run regedit and check under this key for a
subkey that refers to the unwanted entry and delete just that key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Al" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ol9b3dnn5eiu1dqnbpa2q8kfrq0bkq45s@4ax.com...
>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>
> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>
> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
> deleted.
>
> Al


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-04-2007   #5 (permalink)
Adam Albright


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:52:03 -0700, Al <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
>left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
>files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
>installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
>installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
>nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
>again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
>There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
>to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
>PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>
>Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
>Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
>expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
>that program from showing up in the install program list?
>
>I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
>themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
>deleted.
>
>Al


If not you can benefit from a Registry Cleaner depends on what and how
well written the software on your system is. The crowd that says never
use a Registry Cleaner are simply ignorant if this any many other
facts. Does everyone need or benefit from a Registry Cleaner? Of
course not. That doesn't mean some people won't benefit. It is usually
just another chorus of the do as I say crowd trying to fake they know
what they're talking about.

Way back when Windows was just arriving on the scene these use to be a
program called Clean Sweep. It sat in the background and waited for
you to install a new application. When you did it would pop up and
record a detailed log of every entry changed or added to your system.
Then when you deleted the application it used this log to fully remove
it and restore the system to how it was prior to installing the new
application.

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Old 08-04-2007   #6 (permalink)
Bert Kinney


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

Hi Al,

Most folk around here do not recommend the use if registry cleans do to the
unexpected results that may arise.

And have these instructions handy in the event Windows does not start.
Running System Restore from System Recovery Options:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/recovery.html

You will also want to test system restore to make sure it is functioning
correctly.

1. Create a new restore point named TEST.
2. Create a new shortcut on the desktop and point it to My Computer or any
other file of your choice and name it TEST.
3. Now restore to the Test restore point.

The system will now reboot, and you will receive a message if the restore
was successful, and the Test shortcut on the desktop will be gone.

I would also suggest installing the following utility before hand.
ERUNT: The Emergency Recovery Utility NT
http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org


Al wrote:
> I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>
> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>
> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
> deleted.
>
> Al

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Old 08-04-2007   #7 (permalink)
keepout@yahoo.com.invalid


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 12:52:03 -0700, Al <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
>left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
>files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
>installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
>installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
>nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
>again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
>There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
>to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
>PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?

It's called 'windows install cleanup'
You don't need a registry cleaner to fix the add/remove section.
Just do a search at M$ for it.
It also works for Vista.
--
more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html
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Old 08-05-2007   #8 (permalink)
Ian Betts


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners



"Al" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1ol9b3dnn5eiu1dqnbpa2q8kfrq0bkq45s@4ax.com...
>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>
> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>
> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>
> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
> deleted.
>
> Al
>

You can physically delete things like icons and Start menu entries. You
could also edit the register an easy way, but be very careful and save the
reg before starting so you can go back,

First change your Start menu to Classic by right click/Properties.

Then click Run and type in regedit Go

In the Reg go Edit /Find and type the name of the program. Find every entry
by hitting Find Next. Delete all highlighted program entries.

--
Ian

With patience there is aways a way.

Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.

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Old 08-05-2007   #9 (permalink)
Adam Albright


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:17:30 +0100, "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net>
wrote:

>You can physically delete things like icons and Start menu entries. You
>could also edit the register an easy way, but be very careful and save the
>reg before starting so you can go back,
>
>First change your Start menu to Classic by right click/Properties.
>
>Then click Run and type in regedit Go
>
>In the Reg go Edit /Find and type the name of the program. Find every entry
>by hitting Find Next. Delete all highlighted program entries.


I suppose there is a way to go to a beach and one by one pick up the
individual grains of sand and count them, but who would want to? Using
Regedit to manually search for specific tidbit over and over seems
silly to me when a Registry Clearer will generate a list of what it
finds suspect without interaction on part of the user.

OF COURSE it is up to the user to determine what if anything should be
deleted from the Registry. What I object to is the numbnuts crowd
automatically rejecting Registry Cleaners outright pretending everyone
will just push some auto clean button. That is no more a reflection of
reality than the example of counting grains of sand on a beach is.

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Old 08-05-2007   #10 (permalink)
Al


 
 

Re: Registry Cleaners

Thanks all for the suggestions and I tried CCleaner. It gives you a
list of the problems it finds in the registry but when you tell it to
FIX, it does not seem to do anything. When you scan again you don't
expect it to keep finding the same stuff you just fixed.

I did use it to delete the other stuff, cookies, history, etc. and
when I went to program and features, the program was still listed
there but when I clicked on it to uninstall, I was told it appears to
be uninstalled and asked me if I want to remove it from this list.
That seems to have worked now.

Al

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 13:10:05 -0700, "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net>
wrote:

>I agree, but make sure you back up any entries you delete. CCleaner
>provides and easy way to do this.
>
>"Spirit" <noone@notthere.net> wrote in message
>news:ubzwTJt1HHA.5616@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Get CCcleaner and Wise Registry Cleaner both are free.
>>
>> http://www.ccleaner.com/
>>
>> http://www.wisecleaner.com/
>>
>> Although I consider both programs safe NEVER remove a registry
>> entry unless you are SURE exactly what it does. Easy enough to
>> research any suspected entries using Google.
>>
>>
>> "Al" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1ol9b3dnn5eiu1dqnbpa2q8kfrq0bkq45s@4ax.com...
>>>I just uninstalled a program on this Home Premium 64bit system and it
>>> left a few things lying around. I manually deleted the
>>> files/directories it could not delete but the program still shows as
>>> installed when you go into Programs & Features. Of course it is NOT
>>> installed and clicking on it and telling it to uninstall gets you
>>> nowhere. It is suggested that you install the program and try it
>>> again. I did with the same results. :-(
>>>
>>> There used to be a good Program for Windows XP Pro that you could use
>>> to remove this program fromn that list, I think it was part of
>>> PowerTools. Is there something like that for Vista?
>>>
>>> Also I looked at registry cleaners to see if they could do the job.
>>> Now they all seem to scan for free but they want the money if you
>>> expect them to actually do anything. If I buy it, would it remove
>>> that program from showing up in the install program list?
>>>
>>> I guess there are a lot of program that do not clean up after
>>> themselves properly, it found 397 things in my registry that could be
>>> deleted.
>>>
>>> Al

>>

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