Vista - Which version of Vista to get Word?

On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 04:42:00 -0700, Zed <Zed@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>Thanks for all the responses guys - much appreciated. My previous one was
>indeed bundled from Dell, hence my confusion.
>
>I'll give Openoffice a look, otherwise I'm looking at over £100 for a basic
>Msoffice including Outlook, Excel and Word...ouch, no thanks!

If you need some of the features of Word and Excel and don't like Open
source alternatives you could look around for a version of Office 97.
I've seen the pro version selling for as little as $10 on Amazon. Of
course I can't verify if or not you get a genuine CD or not. This is
before the activation crap, so there's no problem with that IF you get
a valid serial number which comes with the original packaging and is
inside the shrink wrap that's all that's needed to install.

I still use Office 97 and both Excel and Word seem to work fine in
Vista. I can't say how well every feature works since I no longer use
either that much, but their basic features seem to work as well as
they ever did running under Vista.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Offi...6321477&sr=8-1

"Zed" <Zed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the responses guys - much appreciated. My previous one was
> indeed bundled from Dell, hence my confusion.
>
> I'll give Openoffice a look, otherwise I'm looking at over £100 for a
> basic
> Msoffice including Outlook, Excel and Word...ouch, no thanks!
>
> Rich
>
> "Zed" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium Home
>> Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes
>> with MS
>> Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
>> provides this or more?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Rich
>
You can buy older versions of MS office on places like Amazon and eBay for
much less. These are just as good for general use as the newest. I use
Office 2000 cost me £30.

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Zed wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium Home
> Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes with MS
> Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
> provides this or more?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich


Neither the Microsoft Office application suite, nor any of its
individual component applications (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Access,
Outlook, etc.), have _ever_ been "part" of *any* Windows operating
system. They are, and always have been, separate applications, that
must be purchased and installed separately.

For the budget-minded (who also don't need all of Word's specific
features), there's the free, open source OpenOffice:

http://www.openoffice.org/



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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:20:56 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:18:15 -0700, Zed wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium Home
> > Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes with MS
> > Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
> > provides this or more?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rich
>
> I second the idea of trying OpenOffice.org - won't cost you a dime to find
> out if it meets your needs - it probably will. OpenOffice imports and
> exports MS Office files and is, in many ways, a work-alike for MS Office.


Rich should note, however, that no "compatible" program is ever
completely compatible. For example, the more complex the formatting in
a word processing document, the less likely it is to be perfectly
compatible.

That isn't necessarily an important issue for everybody, but if Rich
will need to exchange documents with users of Word (or other Microsoft
Office products), he should be aware of this.

But Rich, by all means try it. There's no downside to trying.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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From what I've seen if it comes with Office on it then it will be a
trial installation that you have to pay to keep in use.

I've just bought from Office Depot a c500t Compaq Presario 15.4"
Notebook with INTEL processor and that has a trial version of OFFICE
BUT it appears to have a full version of MS Works 8 on it and that
might have WORD -- it does on the Works Suite which has WORD 2002/XP.

However when I just tried to check this on the MS website I see that
Works 9 is now replacing Works 8 and it looks as if it does only have
the Works Word Processor.

However Works Suite 2006 is still available and the price is
ridiculous!

Check out BuyCheapSoftware:

http://www.buycheapsoftware.com/ms_p...ategory~16.asp

whom I use regularly. You can get the DVD version for $55 and it
contains:

Description: Works and Word Suite 2006 DVD on one CD [sic] with COA
(1-Pack) Full oem/DSP Version. Includes, Works 8.5, Word 2002, Digital
Image 2006 Standard, Money 2006 Standard, Encarta 2006 Standard,
Streets & Trips 2006.

or you can get it on the 6 CDs I have for $55.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:58:29 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:20:56 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 13:18:15 -0700, Zed wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium Home
>> > Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes with MS
>> > Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
>> > provides this or more?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Rich
>>
>> I second the idea of trying OpenOffice.org - won't cost you a dime to find
>> out if it meets your needs - it probably will. OpenOffice imports and
>> exports MS Office files and is, in many ways, a work-alike for MS Office.
>
>
> Rich should note, however, that no "compatible" program is ever
> completely compatible. For example, the more complex the formatting in
> a word processing document, the less likely it is to be perfectly
> compatible.

It's also true that 97% of users never use 95% of the functionality.

>
> That isn't necessarily an important issue for everybody, but if Rich
> will need to exchange documents with users of Word (or other Microsoft
> Office products), he should be aware of this.

On the up side, it won't cost a farthing to check it out.

>
> But Rich, by all means try it. There's no downside to trying.

Did your previous purchase include the Office installation disks? Do you
still have them?

That might work,though there's no guarantee.


"Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Zed" <Zed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1B6E3A65-ECCB-4013-8A1C-CF2728EF6709@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks for all the responses guys - much appreciated. My previous one was
>> indeed bundled from Dell, hence my confusion.
>>
>> I'll give Openoffice a look, otherwise I'm looking at over £100 for a
>> basic
>> Msoffice including Outlook, Excel and Word...ouch, no thanks!
>>
>> Rich
>>
>> "Zed" wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium
>>> Home
>>> Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes
>>> with MS
>>> Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
>>> provides this or more?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Rich
>>
> You can buy older versions of MS office on places like Amazon and eBay for
> much less. These are just as good for general use as the newest. I use
> Office 2000 cost me £30.
>
> --
> Ian
>
> With patience there is aways a way.
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.

On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:41:19 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:58:29 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 19:20:56 -0600, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:

> >> I second the idea of trying OpenOffice.org - won't cost you a dime to find
> >> out if it meets your needs - it probably will. OpenOffice imports and
> >> exports MS Office files and is, in many ways, a work-alike for MS Office.
> >
> >
> > Rich should note, however, that no "compatible" program is ever
> > completely compatible. For example, the more complex the formatting in
> > a word processing document, the less likely it is to be perfectly
> > compatible.
>
> It's also true that 97% of users never use 95% of the functionality.


I'm not sure whether you have the percentages exactly right, but yes,
the point is correct. You might note that I essentially said much the
same thing in the nest sentence of my message, which you quoted below:


> > That isn't necessarily an important issue for everybody, but if Rich
> > will need to exchange documents with users of Word (or other Microsoft
> > Office products), he should be aware of this.
>
> On the up side, it won't cost a farthing to check it out.


If you had bothered to read a single sentence farther in what I wrote
(which you quoted below) you might have noticed that I said exactly
the same thing.



> > But Rich, by all means try it. There's no downside to trying.


You're replying to my message as if I was recommending against
OpenOffice, but in fact I was pointing out that it meets many people's
needs. However it does *not* meet everyone's needs.


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"DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Did your previous purchase include the Office installation disks? Do you
> still have them?
>
> That might work,though there's no guarantee.
>
>
> "Ian Betts" <igb123@talktalk.net> wrote in message
> news:1F86FD1F-F568-4395-AD6C-B561A90631EF@microsoft.com...
>>
>>
>> "Zed" <Zed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:1B6E3A65-ECCB-4013-8A1C-CF2728EF6709@microsoft.com...
>>> Thanks for all the responses guys - much appreciated. My previous one
>>> was
>>> indeed bundled from Dell, hence my confusion.
>>>
>>> I'll give Openoffice a look, otherwise I'm looking at over £100 for a
>>> basic
>>> Msoffice including Outlook, Excel and Word...ouch, no thanks!
>>>
>>> Rich
>>>
>>> "Zed" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering buying a laptop with Vista - either Basic or Premium
>>>> Home
>>>> Editions are available - but I can't find out if either version comes
>>>> with MS
>>>> Office. I only really need Word but does anyone know if either version
>>>> provides this or more?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Rich
>>>
>> You can buy older versions of MS office on places like Amazon and eBay
>> for much less. These are just as good for general use as the newest. I
>> use Office 2000 cost me £30.
>>
>> --
>> Ian
>>
>> With patience there is aways a way.
>>
>> Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
>> Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.
>
>
Of course they had the Office Suite has to come with the Ref number but that
is how they came if you buy carefully.




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