Vista - Lotus 123 compatible with Vista?

Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?


--

He is winding the watch of his wit.
By and by it will strike.

.... William Shakespeare

Unfortunately, your very old Lotus 123 program is not Vista compatible.
Consider moving up to a modern office application, such as MS Office 2007.
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/pr...px?ofcresset=1

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Steve" wrote:

Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?


--

He is winding the watch of his wit.
By and by it will strike.

.... William Shakespeare

In article <lroob3p289q9fd956avjsfk5pd45f2ordv@4ax.com>,
Steve <otm@wdc.inv> wrote:

> Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
> version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
> includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?

I seem to recall one of the early beta demos showed this working as an
example of backwards compatibility that MS was trying to achieve.

Have you tried to install it? Most programs that Vista is going to
have issues with will tell you as soon as you start the install.

The only issue I've had with DOS apps is that there is no "full screen"
DOS mode. DOS apps run in a window only. This appears to be video
card and/or driver related, as others have told me they have a DOS "full
screen" mode.

Mike

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:26:33 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]"
<cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:

>Unfortunately, your very old Lotus 123 program is not Vista compatible.
>Consider moving up to a modern office application, such as MS Office 2007.

>"Steve" wrote:
>
>Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
>version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
>includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?

Carey and Steve,

A better and more practical recommendation for a Lotus user would be
to upgrade to a recent version of SmartSuite, such as R9.8. I use
that version of 1-2-3 and it runs nicely on Vista, as do Lotus Word
Pro and Lotus Approach. You do have to install the WinHelp32 patch
from MS to view the help files.

The current version of IBM/Lotus SmartSuite is indeed a "modern office
application" and many feel that it delivers far more bang for the buck
than MS Office. SmartSuite has millions of users around the world.

OEM copies of SmartSuite R9.8.1 can be found from Internet resellers
for less than $40 US.

Steve,

Most classic 1-2-3 commands are still available in the R9.x Windows
versions. You simply press the "/" key to display them in a popup
window.

Doug M. in NJ
http://www.xpertss.com
"SmartSuite forums and downloads"

retroman <retroman@noplace.com> wrote:
>>Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
>>version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
>>includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?

>>Unfortunately, your very old Lotus 123 program is not Vista compatible.
>>Consider moving up to a modern office application, such as MS Office 2007.

>A better and more practical recommendation for a Lotus user would be
>to upgrade to a recent version of SmartSuite, such as R9.8

Thanks! This is indeed more practical, and considerably less
condescending!


--

He is winding the watch of his wit.
By and by it will strike.

.... William Shakespeare

Steve wrote:

> retroman <retroman@noplace.com> wrote:
>
>>>Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
>>>version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
>>>includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?
>
>
>>>Unfortunately, your very old Lotus 123 program is not Vista compatible.
>>>Consider moving up to a modern office application, such as MS Office 2007.
>
>
>>A better and more practical recommendation for a Lotus user would be
>>to upgrade to a recent version of SmartSuite, such as R9.8
>
>
> Thanks! This is indeed more practical, and considerably less
> condescending!
>

Carey might come across as condescending but his advice is reasonable.
While a firm believer in the old applications myself, one must consider
just how practical it might be in using them today. For instance, I have
not seen a Lotus 123 spreadsheet in several years now yet a lot of work
is conveyed via spreadsheets...viz., Excel.

Ghostrider <-00-@fitron.142> wrote:
>Carey might come across as condescending but his advice is reasonable.
>While a firm believer in the old applications myself, one must consider
>just how practical it might be in using them today.

Well, it's perfectly practical as long as it continues to work. After
many years of experience with the software, it's usually much faster
and more efficient to continue using it if possible, particularly if
you're not sharing files with others...


--

He is winding the watch of his wit.
By and by it will strike.

.... William Shakespeare

Pressing ALT-ENTER in almost any DOS or Command line application will make
it full screen.

"Mike" <no@where.man> wrote in message
news:no-0FF3AA.09300410082007@news.supernews.com...
> In article <lroob3p289q9fd956avjsfk5pd45f2ordv@4ax.com>,
> Steve <otm@wdc.inv> wrote:
>
>> Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
>> version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
>> includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?
>
> I seem to recall one of the early beta demos showed this working as an
> example of backwards compatibility that MS was trying to achieve.
>
> Have you tried to install it? Most programs that Vista is going to
> have issues with will tell you as soon as you start the install.
>
> The only issue I've had with DOS apps is that there is no "full screen"
> DOS mode. DOS apps run in a window only. This appears to be video
> card and/or driver related, as others have told me they have a DOS "full
> screen" mode.
>
> Mike

Give it a try, in theory it should work, as Vista runs DOS rather well.

One side note, it definitely will not work on Vista 64bit, as DOS and Win
3.1 compatibility does not exist in the 64bit version.

"Steve" <otm@wdc.inv> wrote in message
news:lroob3p289q9fd956avjsfk5pd45f2ordv@4ax.com...
> Anyone happen to know if there are compatibility issues with the 1997
> version of Lotus 123? It's the only version with Lotus Classic, which
> includes both DOS and Windows commands. Likely to be a problem?
>
>
> --
>
> He is winding the watch of his wit.
> By and by it will strike.
>
> ... William Shakespeare