Windows Vista Forums
Vista Forums Home Join Vista Forums Windows 7 Forum Vista Tutorials Tags
Welcome to Windows Vista Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find solutions with any problems, errors or issues you are experiencing with Windows Vista. The Vista forum also covers news and updates and has an extensive Windows Vista tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.

Go Back   Vista Forums > Vista Newsgroups > Vista General

Vista Tutorial - Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7

Reply
 
Old 08-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
Ian Betts
Guest


 
 

Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7



"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:O8RYhuP3HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> There must be a ton of "expert consulting" going on. When Mark Minasi
> toured NSA, CIA, and all the stupid alphabet agencies, they weren't even
> backing up their servers off site. The morons were putting their backup
> servers literally on top of their main servers. It's a story Minasi tells
> often.
>
> Stories of leaked data are plentiful, so the lol "expert" consulting has
> had little impact.
>
> None of your points have anything to do with MSFT's pussying out and
> allowing their searches to be turned over to the government. No wonder
> despite Dr.Gary Flake's addition to MSFT with a huge salary and a tilte
> MSN so called "Windows Live" search is so far behind Google in use and
> ability that it's barely on the radar.
>
> No one is "jumping up and down like a loon." I've just stated facts that
> are easily verified and I've verified all of them.
>
> If the NSA has been involved in the development of Vista, no wonder it's
> so easily hacked and so many security patches have to be issued for it
> every "Black Tuesday" of the month that are beginning again to screw up
> the functionality of Vista month after month. If MSFT had "you know" (is
> that your synonym for the Valley Girl California use of "like" all the
> time) "insight into the tricks hackers use" why is Vista so easily hacked
> and are so many security patches necessary for the endless security flaws
> in Vista--and again patches with exponential reports that they are
> screwing up Vista once applied?
>
> The more the NSA and other agencies spy, the more it does nothing to deter
> terrorrists who can easily work around whatever is done. 911 happened
> largely because of the incompetence of Bush retreating to Texas and
> ignoring clear warnings without translating most of the information that
> would have prevented it until 912 and after. It's no accident that the
> D.C. Circuit suppressed the law suit filed by
> Sibel Edmonds to expose this:
>
> http://www.justacitizen.com/
>
> http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle9774.htm
>
> FRANK RICH: Shuffling Off to Crawford, 2007 Edition
> NYT Sunday 8/12/07
>
> THE cases of Pat Tillman and Jessica Lynch were ugly enough. So surely
> someone in the White House might have the good taste to draw the line at
> exploiting the murdered Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. But
> nothing is out of bounds for a government that puts the darkest arts of
> politics and public relations above even the exigencies of war.
>
> As Jane Mayer told the story in last week's New Yorker, Mariane Pearl was
> called by Alberto Gonzales with some good news in March: the Justice
> Department was releasing a transcript in which the long-incarcerated Qaeda
> thug Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed to the beheading of her husband. But
> there was something off about Mr. Gonzales's news. It was almost four
> years old.
>
> Condoleezza Rice had called Ms. Pearl to tell her in confidence about the
> very same confession back in 2003; it was also reported that year in The
> Journal and elsewhere. What's more, the confession was suspect; another
> terrorist had been convicted in the Pearl case in Pakistan in 2002. There
> is no known corroborating evidence that Mohammed, the 9/11 ringleader who
> has taken credit for many horrific crimes while in American custody, was
> responsible for this particular murder. None of his claims, particularly
> those possibly coerced by torture, can be taken as gospel solely on our
> truth-challenged attorney general's say-so.
>
> Ms. Pearl recognized a publicity ploy when she saw it. And this one wasn't
> subtle. Mr. Gonzales released the Mohammed transcript just as the latest
> Justice Department scandal was catching fire, with newly disclosed e-mail
> exchanges revealing the extent of White House collaboration in the United
> States attorney firings. Had the attorney general succeeded in enlisting
> Daniel Pearl's widow as a player in his stunt, it might have diverted
> attention from a fracas then engulfing President Bush on his Latin
> American tour.
>
> Though he failed this time, Mr. Gonzales's P.R. manipulation of the war on
> terror hasn't always been so fruitless. To upstage increasingly
> contentious Congressional restlessness about Iraq in 2006, he put on a
> widely viewed show to announce an alleged plot by men in Miami to blow up
> the Sears Tower in Chicago and conduct a "full ground war." He said at the
> time the men "swore allegiance to Al Qaeda" but, funnily enough, last week
> this case was conspicuously missing from a long new White House "fact
> sheet" listing all the terrorist plots it had foiled.
>
> The Gonzales antics are, of course, in the tradition of an administration
> with a genius for stirring up terror nightmares at politically opportune
> times, like just before the Democratic convention in 2004. The Sears Tower
> scenario came right out of the playbook of his predecessor, John Ashcroft.
> In 2002, Mr. Ashcroft waited a full month to announce the Chicago arrest
> of the "dirty bomber" Jose Padilla - suddenly commandeering TV cameras in
> the middle of a trip to Moscow so that this tardy "news" could drown out
> the damning pre-9/11 revelations from the F.B.I. whistleblower Coleen
> Rowley. Since then, the dirty bomb in the Padilla case has evaporated much
> like Mr. Gonzales's Sears Tower extravaganza.
>
> Now that the administration is winding down and the Qaeda threat is at its
> scariest since 2001, one might hope that such stunts would cease. Indeed,
> two of the White House's most accomplished artificial-reality Imagineers
> both left their jobs last month: Scott Sforza, the former ABC News
> producer who polished up the "Mission Accomplished" spectacle, and Peter
> Feaver, the academic specialist in wartime public opinion who helped
> conceive the 35-page National Security Council document that Mr. Bush
> unveiled as his Iraq "Plan for Victory" in November 2005.
>
> Mr. Feaver's document used the word victory six times in its table of
> contents alone, and was introduced by a speech at the Naval Academy in
> which Mr. Bush invoked "victory" 15 times while standing on a set bedecked
> with "Plan for Victory" signage. Alas, it turned out that victory could
> not be achieved merely by Orwellian incantation, so the plan was scrapped
> only 13 months later for the "surge." But while Mr. Feaver and his doomed
> effort to substitute propaganda for action may now be gone, the White
> House's public relations strategies for the war, far from waning, are
> again gathering steam, to America's peril.
>
> This came into sharp focus last weekend, when our military disclosed, very
> quietly and with a suspicious lack of accompanying White House fanfare,
> that it had killed a major terror culprit in Iraq, Haythem Sabah al-Badri.
> Never heard of him? Usually this administration oversells every death of a
> terrorist leader. It underplayed Badri's demise for a reason. The fine
> print would further expose the fictional new story line that has been
> concocted to rebrand and resell the Iraq war as a battle against Osama bin
> Laden's Al Qaeda - or, as Mr. Bush now puts it, "the very same folks that
> attacked us on September the 11th."
>
> To understand how, revisit the president's trial run of this new
> narrative, when he announced the surge in January. Mr. Bush had to explain
> why his previous "Plan for Victory" had gone belly up so quickly, so he
> came up with a new premise that absolved him of blame. In his prime-time
> speech, the president implied that all had been on track in Iraq after the
> country's December 2005 elections until Feb. 22, 2006, when one of the
> holiest Shiite shrines, the gold-domed mosque in Samarra, was blown up. In
> this revisionist history, that single terrorist act set off the outbreak
> of sectarian violence in Iraq now requiring the surge.
>
> This narrative was false. Shiite death squads had been attacking Sunnis
> for more than a year before the Samarra bombing. The mosque attack was not
> a turning point. It was merely a confirmation of the Iraqi civil war that
> Mr. Bush refuses to acknowledge because American voters don't want their
> troops in the middle of one.
>
>But that wasn't the only new plot point that the president advanced in his
>surge speech. With no proof, Mr. Bush directly attributed the newly
>all-important Samarra bombing to "Al Qaeda terrorists and Sunni
>insurgents," cementing a rhetorical sleight of hand he had started
>sketching out during the midterm election season.
>
> In fact, no one has taken credit for the mosque bombing to this day. But
> Iraqi government officials fingered Badri as the culprit. (Some local
> officials told The Washington Post after the bombing that Iraqi security
> forces were themselves responsible.) Since Badri is a leader of a tiny
> insurgent cell reportedly affiliated with what the president calls "Al
> Qaeda in Iraq," Mr. Bush had the last synthetic piece he needed to
> complete his newest work of fiction: 1) All was hunky-dory with his plan
> for victory until the mosque was bombed. 2) "Al Qaeda in Iraq" bombed the
> mosque. 3) Ipso facto, America must escalate the war to defeat "Al Qaeda
> in Iraq," those "very same folks that attacked us on September the 11th."
>
> As a growing chorus of critics reiterates, "Al Qaeda in Iraq" is not those
> very same folks. It did not exist on 9/11 but was a product of the Iraq
> war and accounts for only a small fraction of the Sunni insurgency. It is
> not to be confused with the resurgent bin Laden network we've been warned
> about in the latest National Intelligence Estimate. But this factual issue
> hasn't deterred Mr. Bush. He has merely stepped up his bogus conflation of
> the two Qaedas by emphasizing all the "foreign leaders" of "Al Qaeda in
> Iraq," because that might allow him to imply they are bin Laden
> emissaries. In a speech in Charleston, S.C., on July 24, he listed a
> Syrian, an Egyptian, a Tunisian, a Saudi and a Turk.
>
> Against the backdrop of this stepped-up propaganda blitz, Badri's death
> nine days later was an inconvenient reminder of the hole in the official
> White House narrative. Mr. Bush couldn't do his usual victory jig over
> Badri's demise because there's no way to pass off Badri as a link to bin
> Laden. He was born in Samarra and was a member of Saddam's Special
> Republican Guard.
>
> If Badri was responsible for the mosque bombing that has caused all our
> woes in Iraq and forced us to stay there, then the president's story line
> falls apart. Far from having any connection to bin Laden's Qaeda, the
> Samarra bombing was instead another manifestation of the Iraqi civil war
> that Mr. Bush denies. No wonder the same White House "fact sheet" that
> left out Mr. Gonzales's foiled Sears Tower plot and, for that matter, Jose
> Padilla, also omitted Badri's name from its list of captured and killed
> "Senior Al Qaeda Leaders." Surely it was a coincidence that this latest
> statement of official Bush administration amnesia was released on Aug. 6,
> the sixth anniversary of the President's Daily Brief titled "Bin Laden
> Determined to Strike in U.S."
>
> And so the president, firm in his resolve against "Al Qaeda in Iraq,"
> heads toward another August break in Crawford while Al Qaeda in Pakistan
> and Afghanistan remains determined to strike in America. No one can doubt
> Mr. Bush's triumph in the P.R. war: There are more American troops than
> ever mired in Iraq, sent there by a fresh round of White House fictions.
> And the real war? The enemy that did attack us six years ago, sad to say,
> is likely to persist in its nasty habit of operating in the reality-based
> world that our president disdains.
>
> CH
> "Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
> news:110tb3tugcdtnc8rdhvkeq3rtnc11c6ch6@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:33:48 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:
>>
>>>In article <q8tsb3lpr50enehacv4tp2531inm3vg4j5@4ax.com>,
>>> Adam Albright <AA@ABC.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:43:43 -0400, Mike <no@where.man> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >In article <O2zOUaI3HHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>,
>>>> > "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I think Mike is saying he's stupid and doing that eloquently. Do you
>>>> >> mind
>>>> >> taking a pic of this switch and posting it because most of us
>>>> >> familiar
>>>> >> with
>>>> >> IE and Vista don't think it exists. What I said about your
>>>> >> government and
>>>> >> the UK's government is well known and in the public domain. MSFT
>>>> >> monitors
>>>> >> your Live searches and turns them over to the government for 18
>>>> >> months to
>>>> >> two years. But they aren't monitoring your internet activity.
>>>> >> However the
>>>> >> scumbag Bush government and in your case the Rt. Hon Gordon Brown
>>>> >> are
>>>> >> monitoring your internet surfing and wiretaping your email via your
>>>> >> ISP. I
>>>> >> hope this is clear to you.
>>>> >
>>>> >Yes, of course. It's also well known and in the public domain that
>>>> >McDonald's reports your hamburger activity.
>>>>
>>>> Well before you start jumping up and down like a loon, maybe you will
>>>> sober up if you knew that Microsoft has CONFIRMED it allowed the super
>>>> secret National Security Agency (NSA) to work on the development of
>>>> Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Right, the very same agency that the idiot Bush ordered to spy on who
>>>> knows how many innocent American citizens without benefit of search
>>>> warrant or court supervision crawled into bed with Microsoft. Why?
>>>>
>>>> "For the first time, the giant software maker is acknowledging the
>>>> help of the secretive agency, better known for eavesdropping on
>>>> foreign officials and, more recently, U.S. citizens as part of the
>>>> Bush administration's effort to combat terrorism. The agency said it
>>>> has helped in the development of the security of Microsoft's new
>>>> operating system -- the brains of a computer -- to protect it from
>>>> worms, Trojan horses and other insidious computer attackers."
>>>
>>>Sounds like a good idea to me. Maybe they had, you know, some insight
>>>into what tricks and techniques hackers are using. It's called expert
>>>consulting.

>>
>> You truly are a world class idiot. If the NSA had any "experts", 9-11
>> would have never happened.
>>
>> Fact: While the NSA routinely listened to terrorist "traffic" on
>> telephone and Internet networks the dummies didn't think it was
>> important to hire enough interpreters to translate WHAT they heard.
>>

>
>

Go and peddle your mad ideas on a political list, not here.



--
Ian

With patience there is always a way.

Please Reply to Newsgroup so all can read.
Requests for assistance by email can not and will be deleted.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Forum
vista internet activity stops Vista performance & maintenance
Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7 Vista General
Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7 Vista General
Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7 Vista General
Re: Microsoft monitors your internet activity via Vista/IE7 Vista General


Vista Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized,
sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation.
"Windows Vista", the Start Orb, and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.
© Designer Media Ltd

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46