Vista - What to buy?

Not only do I have the experience, I have also had meetings
with the Microsoft Windows licensing group which this
very topic was discussed...no FUD.

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> All those sites don't mention that the Windows Genuine
> Advantage program will eventually flag an upgrade only
> clean installation as "non-genuine". Don't believe everything
> you read as being true, especially when it comes to workarounds
> which attempt to circumvent software licensing.


I haven't tried this myself, but I suspect that you have no experience with
this either. As the poster has already got an installed copy XPMCE, there
is nothing illegal being done. I can't see any comments on any sites saying
that it does not work, so I maybe what you are spreading is FUD? Obviously
only somebody has actually done this can answer this.

If I had not just built a new computer as the Vista release candidates came
out, I would have done this myself, after upgrading from an XP licence, but
not having upgraded from an XP installation. I would not trust the
integrity of the registry on such an installation.

ss.

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Not only do I have the experience, I have also had meetings
> with the Microsoft Windows licensing group which this
> very topic was discussed...no FUD.

Even as far as computer geek groups go, that must have been one hell of a
party :-P

OK, I am not saying that I do not believe you, only that what you say is the
only evidence I have to the contrary. Maybe I will have the chance to see
for myself some time.

Cheers

ss.

I was there, and it was indeed a lively session. What Carey states is
correct, many of us were told that this workaround would be locked down.
Exactly when this will occur was not specified.

As an addendum, if the OP starts the upgrade disk from within MCE and
chooses the custom install option, they can get a fresh install to a new
folder. Personally, I'd seriously look at whether Vista offers anything they
are not getting from MCE before spending any bucks. Plus, you want to be
very sure that all the hardware is supported and that drivers are available
from the manufacturer.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
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> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23sviavs3HHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Not only do I have the experience, I have also had meetings
>> with the Microsoft Windows licensing group which this
>> very topic was discussed...no FUD.
>
> Even as far as computer geek groups go, that must have been one hell of a
> party :-P
>
> OK, I am not saying that I do not believe you, only that what you say is
> the only evidence I have to the contrary. Maybe I will have the chance to
> see for myself some time.
>
> Cheers
>
> ss.
>

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> All those sites don't mention that the Windows Genuine
> Advantage program will eventually flag an upgrade only
> clean installation as "non-genuine".

How about posting some URLs that do mention it, preferably Microsoft URLs.

-Paul Randall

None such exist - yet. Note the rest of the thread, and Carey's use of the
word "eventually".

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23auy4hs3HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> All those sites don't mention that the Windows Genuine
>> Advantage program will eventually flag an upgrade only
>> clean installation as "non-genuine".
>
> How about posting some URLs that do mention it, preferably Microsoft
> URLs.
>
> -Paul Randall
>

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
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> All those sites don't mention that the Windows Genuine
> Advantage program will eventually flag an upgrade only
> clean installation as "non-genuine". Don't believe everything
> you read as being true, especially when it comes to workarounds
> which attempt to circumvent software licensing.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Synapse Syndrome" wrote:
>
> in message news:eTn3Dcs3HHA.1900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uJYWxXs3HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> No. You would need to purchase a "Full Version" of
>> Windows Vista if you wish to clean install on a drive
>> without a previous Windows operating system. The
>> upgrade version of Vista is not bootable and does not
>> check for a qualifying Windows CD.
>
>
> If you read the link that Val gave, or the dozens of other sites on
> Google,
> you'll see that this is not true. I even think that the upgrade DVD is
> exactly the same disk that come with all the other versions of Vista, and
> it
> is bootable.
>
> ss.
>
>

Probably 30% to 60% of all Microsoft users have a legitimate copy of Windows
to use for an upgrade. None of the ME editions worked. It is like buying a
license for music. Even though we have bought the same license 10 times
(45, 78, 33, 4-track, 8-track, cassette, CD, DVD, etc.), Bill Gates uses
technology to keep us from copying our own stuff. It would be pretty hard
to find somebody over 30 that hasn't bought at least one windows.

Floyd

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