Vista - Hotmail Upgrades! :-)

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html

I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and
everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys
on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a
little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could have
given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there would be
no battle.

You know, I was watching TV the other day and said to myself. I could
upgrade and get the sports package. So I called the cable company and
upgraded. Now I can sit home in my pajamas all day, eating Ice Cream,
watching sports all day. Isn't life grand?

Just FYI.

I don't even need to use Windows 2008 Server or Ubuntu to enjoy my TV.

Just FYI.


"PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message
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> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html
>
> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and
> everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys
> on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a
> little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could
> have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there
> would be no battle.
>
>
>
>

http://www.restoreusa.com/

This works wonders. Who gives a Rats Ass about Hotmail. Just FYI.


"PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:eDsMn123HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html
>
> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and
> everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful guys
> on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm just a
> little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they could
> have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and there
> would be no battle.
>
>
>
>

PowerUser wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html
>
> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas
> and everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old
> faithful guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is
> incredible. I'm just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are
> powerful; they could have given people like 1GB when Gmail
> came out and matched it and there would be no battle.

Hotmail works - have had several accounts for years.
Gmail works - have had several accounts for years.

Tried out the other free email account services as well - most of them are
functional - but GMail always offered a bit more (not talking about size -
but services.) If Hotmail wants to offer more services - cool. I'll take a
look at it. It might be nice to have a backup to what GMAIL already offers.
I doubt either will 'kill' the other for quite some time - if ever. And
anyone that needs that much space for email, needs to learn to archive. I
manage users that waste that much space - and I tell them they are managing
things badly.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Wow these posts are random! :-)

"Manny Moe & Jack" <cars@cars4me.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> http://www.restoreusa.com/
>
> This works wonders. Who gives a Rats Ass about Hotmail. Just FYI.
>
>
> "PowerUser" <a@b.com> wrote in message
> news:eDsMn123HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html
>>
>> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas and
>> everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old faithful
>> guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is incredible. I'm
>> just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are powerful; they
>> could have given people like 1GB when Gmail came out and matched it and
>> there would be no battle.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always
appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's saved my
a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially since I use OE.
Search has improved a lot over the years though and that makes things so
much easier.

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> PowerUser wrote:
>> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-upgrades.html
>>
>> I love Hotmail. I've used it thru its 2MB phase thru all the betas
>> and everything. I used OE really early on, so they kept the old
>> faithful guys on the system free. 2GB was great, but this is
>> incredible. I'm just a little sad MS didn't kill Gmail earlier. They are
>> powerful; they could have given people like 1GB when Gmail
>> came out and matched it and there would be no battle.
>
> Hotmail works - have had several accounts for years.
> Gmail works - have had several accounts for years.
>
> Tried out the other free email account services as well - most of them are
> functional - but GMail always offered a bit more (not talking about size -
> but services.) If Hotmail wants to offer more services - cool. I'll take
> a look at it. It might be nice to have a backup to what GMAIL already
> offers. I doubt either will 'kill' the other for quite some time - if
> ever. And anyone that needs that much space for email, needs to learn to
> archive. I manage users that waste that much space - and I tell them they
> are managing things badly.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

PowerUser wrote:
> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always
> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's
> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially
> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and
> that makes things so much easier.

Email is not a file system.

While I understand what you are saying - if you have 8GB of email - you have
been in Grad School too long - you need to graduate. ;-)

It's not the total size that is likely saving your butt - but the individual
file attachment size. Since most only allow 10MB-20MB attachments, to get
ot 8GB - the number of attachments you would be storing is... wow.
Organized or not - there is a point where you would be better off not
relying on some 'not backed up, third party with no control by you' to
archive your materials. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is the way
backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs but most of it is
online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI I'm a good student. I'm an
engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, BTW) from USC in December '07 (1.5
years spent on my MS). That will be less than 18 years totally. My account
is large because I've been using Hotmail for everything from the 2MB times.

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> PowerUser wrote:
>> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always
>> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's
>> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially
>> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and
>> that makes things so much easier.
>
> Email is not a file system.
>
> While I understand what you are saying - if you have 8GB of email - you
> have been in Grad School too long - you need to graduate. ;-)
>
> It's not the total size that is likely saving your butt - but the
> individual file attachment size. Since most only allow 10MB-20MB
> attachments, to get ot 8GB - the number of attachments you would be
> storing is... wow. Organized or not - there is a point where you would be
> better off not relying on some 'not backed up, third party with no control
> by you' to archive your materials. ;-)
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

PowerUser wrote:
> Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is
> the way backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs
> but most of it is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI
> I'm a good student. I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters,
> BTW) from USC in December '07 (1.5 years spent on my MS). That
> will be less than 18 years totally. My account is large because
> I've been using Hotmail for everything from the 2MB times.

That last part is the point...

You have been using it forever - but how much of the stuff that is there do
you utilize now or are you just being a packrat about it because you can be?
I find the latter is usually true. I know people with over 10GB of email
over a 4 year period - because they keep everything that comes to them, even
email themselves documents and such. But those same emails over the past 4
years - some were never touched again - nor will they ever be. I realize
space is cheap - especially when it is free - but I look at iot just like I
do when i see people's garages unused for parking cars because they store
all their unused crap in there - a waste. ;-)

Again - each their own. I never questioned you ability at being a
student... But I did point out that in order to fill up 8GB with 20MB file
attachments - you are going to need a LOT of them. ;-)

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

"PowerUser" admitted...
> Guess everyone should use whatever they think works best. This is the way
> backup works for me. Critical stuff is backed up on DVDs but most of it
> is online so I can get it whenever I want. And FYI I'm a good student.
> I'm an engineer and I'll graduate (Masters, BTW) from USC in December '07
> (1.5 years spent on my MS). That will be less than 18 years totally. My
> account is large because I've been using Hotmail for everything from the
> 2MB times.
>
> PowerUser wrote:
>>> I'm in grad school and can tell ya that the extra space is always
>>> appreciated. I have archived various documents online, and it's
>>> saved my a$$ quite a few times. And it is organized, especially
>>> since I use OE. Search has improved a lot over the years though and
>>> that makes things so much easier.
>>

You know, there are many safer alternatives to storing files and documents
in email. Spammers and hackers (amateurs, not professionals) occassionally
crash mail servers, sometimes causing loss of saved and/or unread messages.
Look into free online storage services, instead, such as x-drive.

You'd think a grad student would have learned something about internet
security by now. What is the higher education system teaching these days?
;-)