Vista - Vista - ? Mark - Current window Help

In XP there was a little ? mark button next to the X button on the top right.
It would give you help just for that window. In Vista I do not see any of
the ? buttons. Is there a hotkey for the current window help?
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Rox

=?Utf-8?B?Um94?= <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:651B6991-B8B4-4AE7-9FB6-39F836FF96DA@microsoft.com:

> In XP there was a little ? mark button next to the X button on the
> top right.
> It would give you help just for that window. In Vista I do not
> see any of
> the ? buttons. Is there a hotkey for the current window help?


f1

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F1 gives you the complete help. I am talking about the ? mark button that
only gave you help on the fields in that window. The cursor would change to a
black ? mark and when you moved it to a field on that current window it would
give you help for that field only. I am looking for the same thing in Vista.
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Rox


"Dave Cox" wrote:

> =?Utf-8?B?Um94?= <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> news:651B6991-B8B4-4AE7-9FB6-39F836FF96DA@microsoft.com:
>
> > In XP there was a little ? mark button next to the X button on the
> > top right.
> > It would give you help just for that window. In Vista I do not
> > see any of
> > the ? buttons. Is there a hotkey for the current window help?
>
>
> f1
>
> --
> The most reliable time to upgrade to a new Operating System is at the
> end of its life cycle.
>
> Dave
>

Rox <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
released on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:22:02 -0700 bearing the
following fruit:

>F1 gives you the complete help. I am talking about the ? mark button that
>only gave you help on the fields in that window.

'What's this?' help.

>The cursor would change to a
>black ? mark and when you moved it to a field on that current window it would
>give you help for that field only. I am looking for the same thing in Vista.

Where is it missing from? Our products that have this
continue to show it on Vista.



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Jan Hyde

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde

Hi Jan.. I will only show you one example but there are many other windows
that don't give the field help or explanation..
Vista - Go to Internet Explorer >> Internet options >> Advanced Tab.. Click
on the ? mark top right you get a help window that is a generic help. In XP
IE6 the cursor changes to an arrow with a ? and when you rolled that cursor
over one of the chooses in the advanced window like "Enable personalized
favorites menu" the cursor would pop up a balloon window with the
explanation about what this option means (a definition of the field). That
one line or field.

That is what I mean.. What happen to the ? Button for the explanation
(definition ) for the indiviual fields or options in that window. It seems
to me Vista has gone backwards in Technology for the user.

This is not the only place I have seen this backwards Technology in Vista..
It is very hard to see the highlights in Vista. XP's Window Explorer, a
highlighted word, line, etc was a line displayed in the opposite color (word
black normal - highlight words white with dark background around the word or
line). Vista it is a very pale transparent color on top of line. Very hard to
see the difference when dragging and dropping on top of a highlighted line
with what is being dragged is also transparent. Than other places were its
takes 6 clicks to do a task that only took 2 clicks in XP.. Sorry, I am a
retired System Analyst and Engineer from Tandem Computers and have worked on
OS's since 1969, this is the first upgrade OS that I have seen that takes the
user backwards in easy of use. Under the hood Vista has made a lot of
improvements, but users do not see that, only the number of clicks do to
there job, easier to understand without manuals, and fast to spot functions
on the screen. A highlight should be a very noticeable highlight, not a very
pale transparent shade on top of the word(s) or line, at a quick glance you
will miss it.
I am not good at writing and I hope this doesn't sound like I am angry
because I am not. I am in work mode were I was to help analyse OS's and list
what needs to be fixed for our developers, just a job.

Roxanne--
Rox


"Jan Hyde (VB MVP)" wrote:

> Rox <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
> released on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:22:02 -0700 bearing the
> following fruit:
>
> >F1 gives you the complete help. I am talking about the ? mark button that
> >only gave you help on the fields in that window.
>
> 'What's this?' help.
>
> >The cursor would change to a
> >black ? mark and when you moved it to a field on that current window it would
> >give you help for that field only. I am looking for the same thing in Vista.
>
> Where is it missing from? Our products that have this
> continue to show it on Vista.
>
>
>
> --
> Jan Hyde
>
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde
>

On Aug 20, 1:04 pm, Rox <R...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> Hi Jan.. I will only show you one example but there are many other windows
> that don't give the field help or explanation..
> Vista - Go to Internet Explorer >> Internet options >> Advanced Tab.. Click
> on the ? mark top right you get a help window that is a generic help. In XP
> IE6 the cursor changes to an arrow with a ? and when you rolled that cursor
> over one of the chooses in the advanced window like "Enable personalized
> favorites menu" the cursor would pop up a balloon window with the
> explanation about what this option means (a definition of the field). That
> one line or field.
>
> That is what I mean.. What happen to the ? Button for the explanation
> (definition ) for the indiviual fields or options in that window. It seems
> to me Vista has gone backwards in Technology for the user.
>
> This is not the only place I have seen this backwards Technology in Vista..
> It is very hard to see the highlights in Vista. XP's Window Explorer, a
> highlighted word, line, etc was a line displayed in the opposite color (word
> black normal - highlight words white with dark background around the word or
> line). Vista it is a very pale transparent color on top of line. Very hard to
> see the difference when dragging and dropping on top of a highlighted line
> with what is being dragged is also transparent. Than other places were its
> takes 6 clicks to do a task that only took 2 clicks in XP.. Sorry, I am a
> retired System Analyst and Engineer from Tandem Computers and have worked on
> OS's since 1969, this is the first upgrade OS that I have seen that takes the
> user backwards in easy of use. Under the hood Vista has made a lot of
> improvements, but users do not see that, only the number of clicks do to
> there job, easier to understand without manuals, and fast to spot functions
> on the screen. A highlight should be a very noticeable highlight, not a very
> pale transparent shade on top of the word(s) or line, at a quick glance you
> will miss it.
> I am not good at writing and I hope this doesn't sound like I am angry
> because I am not. I am in work mode were I was to help analyse OS's and list
> what needs to be fixed for our developers, just a job.
>
> Roxanne--
> Rox
>
> "Jan Hyde (VB MVP)" wrote:
>
>
>
> > Rox <R...@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
> > released on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:22:02 -0700 bearing the
> > following fruit:
>
> > >F1 gives you the complete help. I am talking about the ? mark button that
> > >only gave you help on the fields in that window.
>
> > 'What's this?' help.
>
> > >The cursor would change to a
> > >black ? mark and when you moved it to a field on that current window it would
> > >give you help for that field only. I am looking for the same thing in Vista.
>
> > Where is it missing from? Our products that have this
> > continue to show it on Vista.
>
> > --
> > Jan Hyde
>
> >https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The more I use Vista the more I am convinced that its entire function
is to make the next version of Windows look much better in comparison.

Rox <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
released on Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:04:01 -0700 bearing the
following fruit:

>Hi Jan.. I will only show you one example but there are many other windows
>that don't give the field help or explanation..
>Vista - Go to Internet Explorer >> Internet options >> Advanced Tab.. Click
>on the ? mark top right you get a help window that is a generic help. In XP
>IE6 the cursor changes to an arrow with a ? and when you rolled that cursor
>over one of the chooses in the advanced window like "Enable personalized
>favorites menu" the cursor would pop up a balloon window with the
>explanation about what this option means (a definition of the field). That
>one line or field.
>
>That is what I mean.. What happen to the ? Button for the explanation
>(definition ) for the indiviual fields or options in that window.

I see, they do seem to have changes this. Other
non-microsoft products should still work the same however.

> It seems
>to me Vista has gone backwards in Technology for the user.

Possibly with new supertip (or whatever they call it) they
don't see a need for it anymore. Much better than a tooltip
since it's multi line. Although I note they don't use this
on the screen you mention.

>This is not the only place I have seen this backwards Technology in Vista..
>It is very hard to see the highlights in Vista. XP's Window Explorer, a
>highlighted word, line, etc was a line displayed in the opposite color (word
>black normal - highlight words white with dark background around the word or
>line). Vista it is a very pale transparent color on top of line. Very hard to
>see the difference when dragging and dropping on top of a highlighted line
>with what is being dragged is also transparent. Than other places were its
>takes 6 clicks to do a task that only took 2 clicks in XP..

Which places?

>Sorry, I am a
>retired System Analyst and Engineer from Tandem Computers and have worked on
>OS's since 1969, this is the first upgrade OS that I have seen that takes the
>user backwards in easy of use. Under the hood Vista has made a lot of
>improvements, but users do not see that, only the number of clicks do to
>there job, easier to understand without manuals, and fast to spot functions
>on the screen.

Vista is a big change no doubt and it certainly does feel
cumbersom to use at first. I've been using it for nearly a
year now I find I get around far quicker - I use various OS
during the day and I get terribly frustrated when working on
say an NT machine.

>A highlight should be a very noticeable highlight, not a very
>pale transparent shade on top of the word(s) or line, at a quick glance you
>will miss it.

You can change the colour to one that suits you.

>I am not good at writing and I hope this doesn't sound like I am angry
>because I am not. I am in work mode were I was to help analyse OS's and list
>what needs to be fixed for our developers, just a job.

From what I've read in this group, a lot of complaining goes
on. Some is justified, most isn't.

The key is that many people are here to help so if something
is frustrating with Vista it may be that one of us can help
either by pointing out a quicker way or how to change that
behaviour in Vista.

Although few believe it, feedback does get back to
Microsoft.

J

>Roxanne--
>Rox
>
>
>"Jan Hyde (VB MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Rox <Rox@discussions.microsoft.com>'s wild thoughts were
>> released on Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:22:02 -0700 bearing the
>> following fruit:
>>
>> >F1 gives you the complete help. I am talking about the ? mark button that
>> >only gave you help on the fields in that window.
>>
>> 'What's this?' help.
>>
>> >The cursor would change to a
>> >black ? mark and when you moved it to a field on that current window it would
>> >give you help for that field only. I am looking for the same thing in Vista.
>>
>> Where is it missing from? Our products that have this
>> continue to show it on Vista.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jan Hyde
>>
>> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde
>>

--
Jan Hyde

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Jan.Hyde