Vista - Vista Ultimate is slow

<rmgalante@galaware.com> wrote in message
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> On Aug 19, 4:12 am, "Lang Murphy" <lang_mur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> <rmgala...@galaware.com> wrote in message
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>> >I have a brand new notebook with a dual core 2.2GHz processor, 2G of
>> > memory and a 160G hard drive. It's an HP Pavillion. I turn it on. It
>> > takes 45 seconds to display the login prompt. I login. It takes 2 to 3
>> > minutes to display the windows welcome center.
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>> > I look at the system configuration and I have dozens of services and
>> > startup programs running. I tried to remove all the Norton Anti-virus
>> > services and programs. But it still takes 2 minutes to display the
>> > windows welcome center. But that means it was taking 60 seconds to
>> > load the Norton Anti-virus stuff.
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>> > Also, the system is loading 970M of programs and data into memory.
>> > That is alot of stuff.
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>> > So far my impression of this operating system is that it is too slow.
>> > My XP Pro system is far faster and it only has 1G of memory and a
>> > single processor.
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>> > Also, my daughter just bought an Acer 5100 5674 system at Circuit
>> > City. It only has 1G of memory and a 1.6G dual core processor. It is
>> > running Vista Home Premium. It takes about 30 seconds to display the
>> > login prompt and 1.25 minutes to display the windows welcome center.
>> > It is not running Norton Anti-virus.
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>> > So I spend all this money on serious hardware, and I am let down by
>> > the experience.
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>> As others have responded... uninstall Norton and download a free AV
>> program
>> like AVG or Avast. You could probably benefit by scrubing some of the
>> other
>> crapware that came with your PC. I'm running Ultimate on two laptops
>> here,
>> one with 2GB RAM and one with 1.5GB RAM (this one) and do not experience
>> the
>> same type of performance issues. My son is running Ultimate on an older
>> Dell
>> XPS Gen 2 with 1GB RAM and Vista runs fine on his box. Big difference?
>> All
>> my installs were clean installs, no crapware...
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>> Good luck,
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> Well, thank you for all of your comments. I will try to address them
> as I work to resolve this issue, which is not resolved.
>
> My Windows Experience Index is 3.0. I see that 3D business and gaming
> graphics perfomance is 3.0, and Desktop performance for Windows Aero
> is 3.2. Everything else is 4.6 and above. How can I tell if my
> graphics card shares the computer's memory?
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> With regard to Norton Anti-virus, I am not convinced that this alone
> is the problem. Yes, I did reconfigure my system to remove all the
> services and startup programs that Norton uses. But that knocked 60
> seconds off a 3 minute time period. It still takes two minutes to view
> the Windows Welcome Center after I login. That is very slow.
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> I will try uninstalling the Norton Anti-virus program. I will download
> and install Avast. I'm using it on other systems, and it seems to
> perform ok. I'll reply after I try these things.
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Well... the WEI doesn't hold much weight with me. Not that it's not a decent
indicator of which system components are "weak links." But my laptops have
pretty low WEI scores and I'm quite happy with their performance. The WEI on
this box is 2.4, with desktop graphics being my weak link. As to boot
times... I'll admit I haven't timed them on any of my boxes. Since I rarely
bring my boxes down, it's not an issue for me. The main issue, as far as I'm
concerned, is how does the box perform once you get to the desktop. And from
your post, I take it that you're unhappy with your performance. Norton AV is
notorious for being a system resource hog, so I wouldn't so easily discount
its impact on system performance. As to what other crapware came
pre-installed on your system, well, without a specific list, I can only
continue to recommend that you review what's being loaded at boot time and
attempt to minimize that stuff.

Lang

To recap, I've uninstalled Norton Antivirus. It degraded startup to
the point where it was taking 10 to 15 minutes to see the Windows
Welcome Center. After that, login took 30 seconds. So the other
services and startup applications aren't bothering me. I can live with
30 seconds.

I installed the professional version of Avast Anti-virus. Now login
takes 2 minutes. So it's definitely the anti-virus. It seems that no
anti-virus program is efficient at startup on a 64-bit machine.

I even checked the Microsoft site for an alternative. They have no
alternative for a 64-bit machine.

The network issue was a red herring. Turning the wireless router off
had no definitive, reproducible effect on startup.

<rmgalante@galaware.com> wrote in message
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> To recap, I've uninstalled Norton Antivirus. It degraded startup to
> the point where it was taking 10 to 15 minutes to see the Windows
> Welcome Center. After that, login took 30 seconds. So the other
> services and startup applications aren't bothering me. I can live with
> 30 seconds.
>
> I installed the professional version of Avast Anti-virus. Now login
> takes 2 minutes. So it's definitely the anti-virus. It seems that no
> anti-virus program is efficient at startup on a 64-bit machine.
>
> I even checked the Microsoft site for an alternative. They have no
> alternative for a 64-bit machine.
>
> The network issue was a red herring. Turning the wireless router off
> had no definitive, reproducible effect on startup.

Omit(ideally) or disable superfluous AV email scanning component
might help a little.

http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#3

<rmgalante@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Glad to hear your time-to-desktop has improved almost exponentially. One of
the side effects of better security is that it takes longer to do stuff.
Sure, you could dump all AV products and gain, what, a minute, maybe 90
seconds on your way to the desktop, but do you really want to do that? I
sure don't...

Lang