Vista - WTF is up with my replies to this group?

I see some of my replies to threads in this group come thorough ok and yet
others don't. I see the thread has a reply from me marked and my sent folder
shows it as sent but the actual reply is not showing up. I posted two
replies to the best anti virus thread yesterday and neither one shows. My
sent folder shows they were sent fine. I re-sent them today so will see what
happens. Other groups I don't seem to have this issue. Either my news
service is screwing up or someone is cancelling my posts in this group.

In article <p6mzi.115990$jE4.8964@fe12.news.easynews.com>,
"Yukon Jack" <NO@EMAIL.HERE> wrote:

> I see some of my replies to threads in this group come thorough ok and yet
> others don't. I see the thread has a reply from me marked and my sent folder
> shows it as sent but the actual reply is not showing up. I posted two
> replies to the best anti virus thread yesterday and neither one shows. My
> sent folder shows they were sent fine. I re-sent them today so will see what
> happens. Other groups I don't seem to have this issue. Either my news
> service is screwing up or someone is cancelling my posts in this group.

Microsoft filters the posts for language made directly to their servers.
If you are using Windows Mail, then you are most likely posting directly
to MS's server. If your post contains any common 4 letter "bad" words,
it will not show up here.

OTOH, if you are using some other news service to post to this group,
then your posts should appear in the group on that and other's servers,
but it will still not appear on MS's server.

So if your posts *originate* with MS's server, they won't appear
anywhere if they get filtered. If your posts originate elsewhere, they
will appear everywhere *except* MS's server if they get filtered.

Mike

I'm pretty dumb when it comes to newsreaders -- I use Outlook Express. It
defaults to only reading maybe 300 headers at a time. In a busy newsgroup
like this, some can get 'lost' and you don't see them. Set the number of
headers read to 1000, and I doubt you will lose any more messages. If you
want to prove to yourself that Microsoft actually got your message, use
GROUPS.google.com, and search for something specific to your message in this
specific newsgroup.

-Paul Randall

"Yukon Jack" <NO@EMAIL.HERE> wrote in message
news6mzi.115990$jE4.8964@fe12.news.easynews.com...
>I see some of my replies to threads in this group come thorough ok and yet
>others don't. I see the thread has a reply from me marked and my sent
>folder shows it as sent but the actual reply is not showing up. I posted
>two replies to the best anti virus thread yesterday and neither one shows.
>My sent folder shows they were sent fine. I re-sent them today so will see
>what happens. Other groups I don't seem to have this issue. Either my news
>service is screwing up or someone is cancelling my posts in this group.

"Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:uRxl9Fd5HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I'm pretty dumb when it comes to newsreaders -- I use Outlook Express. It
> defaults to only reading maybe 300 headers at a time. In a busy newsgroup
> like this, some can get 'lost' and you don't see them. Set the number of
> headers read to 1000, and I doubt you will lose any more messages. If you
> want to prove to yourself that Microsoft actually got your message, use
> GROUPS.google.com, and search for something specific to your message in
> this specific newsgroup.
>
> -Paul Randall

I did increase it to 500 but I guess even that wasn't enough as they are
showing on Google groups. Have increased it to 1000 now and will see how
that goes, thanks.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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>
> For example with Agent which I use all you got to do is click ONCE on
> "get new headers for...(specify group/folder)" and it will get
> whatever is "new" anywhere from 1 to over 100,000 if there are that
> many unread headers. Heck, it can update all the groups you follow
> with one click regardless if one or thousands.
>

Actually, OE/WM can do all those things as well if you change the settings,
and group newsgroups by using different accounts for the same newsserver, if
necessary.

I used to use Agent when I first encountered newsgroups, at university in
1993. But I much prefer the interface of OE/WM. I find it much faster to
use, and I hate the old fashioned Win 3.11 style interface of Agent, which
has never changed.

OE has its problems, and I used to use OE-Quotefix (I should start using it
again on this XP machine) and WM has even more annoying bugs, but I have yet
to find anything that I like better.

ss.

"Yukon Jack" <NO@EMAIL.HERE> wrote in message
news:yBrzi.81388$HL1.75965@fe05.news.easynews.com...
> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@cableone.net> wrote in message
> news:uRxl9Fd5HHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I'm pretty dumb when it comes to newsreaders -- I use Outlook Express.
>> It defaults to only reading maybe 300 headers at a time. In a busy
>> newsgroup like this, some can get 'lost' and you don't see them. Set the
>> number of headers read to 1000, and I doubt you will lose any more
>> messages. If you want to prove to yourself that Microsoft actually got
>> your message, use GROUPS.google.com, and search for something specific to
>> your message in this specific newsgroup.
>>
>> -Paul Randall
>
> I did increase it to 500 but I guess even that wasn't enough as they are
> showing on Google groups. Have increased it to 1000 now and will see how
> that goes, thanks.


You need to change it so it doesn't get any specific number of headers...
uncheck the box on the Read tab for "get X headers at a time" and you'll get
all headers. Went through this myself... that was the fix for me.

Good luck,

Lang

Adam Albright wrote:


> For example with Agent which I use all you got to do is click ONCE on
> "get new headers for...(specify group/folder)" and it will get
> whatever is "new" anywhere from 1 to over 100,000 if there are that
> many unread headers. Heck, it can update all the groups you follow
> with one click regardless if one or thousands.
>

There's something subversive about using a product with a vaguely
French-sounding name.

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:09:38 -0500, "HeyBub" <heybub@gmail.com> wrote:

>Adam Albright wrote:
>
>
>> For example with Agent which I use all you got to do is click ONCE on
>> "get new headers for...(specify group/folder)" and it will get
>> whatever is "new" anywhere from 1 to over 100,000 if there are that
>> many unread headers. Heck, it can update all the groups you follow
>> with one click regardless if one or thousands.
>>
>
>There's something subversive about using a product with a vaguely
>French-sounding name.
>
Been reading too many spy novels lately? Agent is a product that has
been around for many, many years and even has a free version called
Free Agent. Even more people use it than the pay version.

"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> Get a REAL news reader and it always, automatically gets ALL new
> headers without you needing to do or tell it anything. The first thing
> a newbie needs to learn is Microsoft makes poor quality graphic
> software and even worse email and newsgroup products.
>
> For example with Agent which I use all you got to do is click ONCE on
> "get new headers for...(specify group/folder)" and it will get
> whatever is "new" anywhere from 1 to over 100,000 if there are that
> many unread headers. Heck, it can update all the groups you follow
> with one click regardless if one or thousands.
>
> A no brainier.
>


I'm not a noob, I've used Agent for years but I don't like their latest
version so am using Windows Mail instead. For binary files I use a dedicated
binary grabber. I like Windows Mail because it integrates into Windows
Search on Vista, Agent doesn't. I just overlooked the amount of headers I
was downloading at a time. Issue is now solved.

"Synapse Syndrome" <synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org> wrote in message
news:uMqifwf5HHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Actually, OE/WM can do all those things as well if you change the
> settings, and group newsgroups by using different accounts for the same
> newsserver, if necessary.

Not only that but Forte changed calling new servers to Desks and groups to
Folders on the last version I used. Weird change and for no good reason too.