Vista - My laptop broke :(

I recently bought an Acer Travelmate 5510 laptop that came pre-installed with
Vista Home Premium. This morning when I tried to turn it on, i got a screen
telling me Vista would not start correctly because of some sort of hrdware
problem. Thankfully, there was an option to try and repair the problem,
however when I click on this, I just get the same page, and if I try the
other option which is to start windows normally it just crashes, then
reboots, only for me to get the same screen again. My laptop is brand new,
and there has been no previous faults on it, so i dont know what the problem
is.
Help appreciated,
Jonathan Holmes

Take it back.



"Mrjingjing" <Mrjingjing@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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I think the problem may have been caused by my USB mouse being plugged in at
the wrong time, as it appears to have resolveditself, but thanks alot!


"DP" wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:22:14 -0700, Mrjingjing wrote:
It could indeed be broken. If it was me, I'd attempt to boot a Linux Live
CD first just to see if I could identify any physical problems.

Mrjingjing wrote:
What did Acer's tgechnical support folks suggest when you called them
for warranty support?


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"Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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But not many Linux users that are going to pay for software written for
Linux.
It is the "free" bit on Linux that makes software limited not the technical
problems.
While users think software should be free where is the incentive to spend
money writing software?

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:40:42 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:
Far more people in the linux world are willing to pay for software than
you can imagine. Most people have no problem spending money on software if
said software is worth spending the money on.

Now true, I can see how there linux market is smaller than the windows
market (disregarding user base), because many of the 3rd party utilities
that are required to get windows usable just aren't needed under linux.

Example, Windows I need the following:

- Alochol 120% to mount DVD or CD images on a virtual drive

- DVD Region Free & CSS Free to turn my DVD player into a region-free
player.

- A decent defragmentation utility such as Diskeeper.

- Decent E-mail Software, Outlook express surely isn't it.

- Decent C/C++ Development environment. Under windows, I'd only use MS
Visual Studio.

- Decent DVD Player software that unlike Windows Media Player is actually
useful.

- Decent Newsgroup software. Outlook express again doesn't fit the bill.

- Basic office needs, word, spreadsheets, etc.

- CD/DVD Burning software (no version of windows can burn an ISO image)

Just adding up all the licensing costs there I'd easily exceed 2 grand.
Visual Studio alone runs 1,500 for the professional version.

That just roughly scratches the surface of all the commercial software I
need under windows and that I need to cough up a license for under windows
for every computer I own.

Linux on the other hand, it isn't that I wouldn't be willing to pay for
the software. I simply just don't need to so I don't.

- Out of the box support for mounting any drive or ISO image to anywhere I
want. Alcohol 120% not needed.

- Out of the box support for DVD playback and CSS support is installable
in less than a minute. I have no need for the DVD Region/CSS software I
would need under windows.

- Ext3 does not need defragmentation so I have no need for a
defragmentation utility. No need for Diskeeper.

- Out of the box very good e-mail software with all the features I need.
I'd have no need to pay for MS Outlook or other third party.

- Eclipse 3.3/CDT4.0 perfectly fits my needs for C/C++ Development far
better than MS Visual Studio. No need to buy anything.

- There are plenty of Media players available for DVD and other media
playback. I have absolutely no need to buy something like PowerDVD as I
used to use under windows.

- Plenty of very good Newsgroup clients available at no cost. Again, no
need to pay for something like Agent which I would need under Windows.

- Open Office meets all *my* basic word & spreadsheet needs. So I
personally have no need to pay for something like MS Office.

- Burning CDs & DVDs is trivial, ISO images included. No need to buy
something like Nero or the like.

Total Licensing cost? 0 and all my needs are perfectly met.

See what I am trying to get at? It's not that users like me are unwilling
to pay for software. For most software, there is no need to and therefore
it'd be very difficult for a software developer to compete in that market
segment. They'd need to be significantly better than the open source
alternatives before I or anyone else would be willing to cough up any
money for it.

So when it comes to the software, it is exceedingly difficult to compete
in the everyday needs for commercial software because generally speaking,
everyday needs are already met at no cost to the user. It's all already
there and available.

The areas for Linux where there is a commercial software market, and
there'd easily be more than enough people willing to pay for this is
software that addresses special needs that go outside the everyday
spectrum.

Accounting, photo editing, video editing, audio editing / recording,
CAD/CAM, EDA, custom business / commercial management software, and so on.

Basically, anyone that wants to make money with Linux software needs to
target the professional market...you aren't likely to make much money with
the mass market like in windows because the needs are already met for
those who don't expect everything to work 100% identically to windows and
are willing to learn. Ultimately this is a good thing for the User as it
reduces the Users costs. I can see though that Corporations might not like
it. =)

The only mass market I see for Linux are games. Games are probably the
only major category for Linux that I see viable commercially on a mass
market scale since a Game is about the specific title. And you know what?
Plenty people wish and would definitely pay for games if more of them were
available for Linux. I know I would in a heartbeat. Matter of fact, if you
offered me the identical game at 20 bucks for windows and 40 bucks for
Linux, I'd buy the Linux version.

The willingness to pay for software is there in the Linux Community.
Companies simply need to offer the right software.

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"Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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You claim that you believe that but then tell people that Vista is a waste
despite the millions who have paid for it.
Use deamon tools then.. its free.
dvd43.. free.
Doesn't need anymore than the one its got.. free.
Linux doesn't have one even though its file systems are no better than NTFS.
Use anything you like they are all on windows and linux.
That's free too.
It plays DVDs.. whats the problem?
It works OK for millions.
You can always download pan for windows.
..Use openoffice.
Mine was free.. but there are free versions that will do for 99.9% of
people.
I doubt if you need the features of the proffesional version if you can
manage with what you get on linux.
Funny that I can get free software to do everything you need to pay for.
Do you want to buy a bridge? I have this nice swing bridge in London that i
can sell you.

Nor for windows.
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows
nor for windows.
Sounds like windows does everything you want at no extra cost.. if you
bother to think about it.


You can get most of them free for windows too BTW.
You need to offer service guarantees and SLAs to make money.. something
people appear to find difficult with linux and easier with windows.
I bet you would.
I bet you wouldn't be here posting about how you were being ripped off for
being a linux user either.
That would be why so may linux companies are struggling to make money then?
Linux not being the right software.

On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 22:06:40 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:
Where do I tell people that Vista is a waste? I may consider it a waste of
*my* time but then again, I think I have the right to do so don't I? Where
though do I tell others it's a time?
No it isn't. It requires advertising software. Quoting from their own
site "(includes Advertising software from www.WhenU.com)"

The LAST thing I want is advertising software on my computer.

Nowhere does it state that it handles region codes. Will it allow me to
play DVDs from the US, Japan and Europe on the same DVD drive regardless
of region coding?
Please, the built in defragmenter is pathetic. If you want to use it,
fine. But I personally prefer more useful tools.

And seeing how Ext3 does not suffer from fragmentation problems like NTFS
does, I already see one area where it is better. I don't need to waste
time defragmenting it with *any* tool.
I do.
MS Visual Studio FREE??? What are you smoking?

Btw, I am not referring to their Express versions...give me a break. I
need tools I can actually work with.
****ty UI compared to players like PowerDVD. PowerDVD also has better
deinterlacing algorithms.
So? The millions are sheep. Just because it works OK for them does not
mean I don't want something better than some top-posting piece of crap.
True though IIRC, it's availability is reasonably recent which didn't do
me much good back when I purchased my Agent license and pan was not
available for windows.
Since I use MS Outlook (the office version) for e-mail under windows, well
used to anyway, it's just more efficient to stick to one overall office
package rather than mixing and matching.
Well then you obviously have no idea with what I get on linux because my
latest tools are extremely well done and do a very excellent job and can
do things I could only wish for under Visual Studio.
Only if I want my machine ad-infested apparently which I don't.
Windows will not play DVDs that are region coded for regions on a
different player without additional 3rd party software. And your little
decryption tool there, which undoubtely takes care of CSS (which is the
least worry seeing how I have licensed DVD player software), does not take
care of region coding (which is my primary concern).
If I want a decent defragmentation tool then yes I do. If I want crappy
defragmentation, then no I don't. Matter of standards here.
If you consider outlook express *good*...nothing will help you.
My needs go beyond Visual Studio Express. So yes for windows.
As I said above, I want better quality than what Microsofts latest DRM
riddled windows media player has to offer. Also I don't think it can
directly play ISO images which is something I have a need for.
What? Outlook express?? Give me a break....
True, I could use Open Office these days. But I'd probably want MS Office
just to have a decent e-mail client.
Really? So how do you burn an ISO image under XP for instance? Without 3rd
party support...
At sub-standard quality compared to my linux equivalents...sure! I mean
windows can do anything if I lower my standards enough...

<snip>
Where have I ever said anything about being ripped off for being a linux
user?
Plenty companies in both worlds both doing well and both struggling.

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