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Old 09-01-2007   #1 (permalink)
ceed
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Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Hi,

As an Internet and computer geezer I am not easily impressed. It seems
like two things I should be concerned about these days, according to
all the bloggers and press, is to love the iPhone and hate Vista. I
tried to do both. It didn't work. I like the iPhone, but I do not love
it. I do not hate Vista, in fact I do not even like it. I love Vista!
Ooooh, felt good to finally say that!

In my opinion this is the best Microsoft has ever done. On my new HP
dv2550se laptop (another device I'm currently in love with) Vista runs
like a charm. After I got rid of all the stuff HP put on there, and
then all the stuff Microsoft has cluttered Vista with I am left with a
rock solid beautifully looking (without being an Apple rip) user
interface. The only problems I have had has been with a couple of
drivers that didn't like Vista. I got those replaced and everything
was fine again.

For me Vista simply works great. Even the error detection when I had
those pesky driver issues worked. Vista told me what was wrong and
where to go to get it fixed. How cool is that? And this time it isn't
Microsoft telling me how it should work. It actually works for real!

I have been on Windows (and other OS's) since the 80s. Finally I am in
a situation where I do not feel the need to dual-boot my laptop with
Linux, QNX, OS/2 etc. I simply do not need it at this point. That's a
first for me!

And don't even get me started on Office 2007. Also an innovative good
looking office package that seems to work beautifully. Expensive
though! Very expensive. Going to create a lot of thieves.

If you could look me up and see where and what I have posted about
operating systems in the past you would be shocked over what I am
saying here. This is a big deal for me: I love an OS for Microsoft!

My only question is: Why are everyone having so much against something
that seems to be very good? Do they trust the press and all those who
just enjoys trashing things without even trying it? I do not get it.
But who cares. I love my new OS and are currently busy tweaking the
little details which makes it all mine, and Vista hums along nicely in
that process also.

//ceed-o-rama


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Old 09-01-2007   #2 (permalink)
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

"ceed" confessed...
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> As an Internet and computer geezer I am not easily impressed. It seems
> like two things I should be concerned about these days, according to
> all the bloggers and press, is to love the iPhone and hate Vista. I
> tried to do both. It didn't work. I like the iPhone, but I do not love
> it. I do not hate Vista, in fact I do not even like it. I love Vista!
> Ooooh, felt good to finally say that!
>
> In my opinion this is the best Microsoft has ever done. On my new HP
> dv2550se laptop (another device I'm currently in love with) Vista runs
> like a charm. After I got rid of all the stuff HP put on there, and
> then all the stuff Microsoft has cluttered Vista with I am left with a
> rock solid beautifully looking (without being an Apple rip) user
> interface. The only problems I have had has been with a couple of
> drivers that didn't like Vista. I got those replaced and everything
> was fine again.
>
> For me Vista simply works great. Even the error detection when I had
> those pesky driver issues worked. Vista told me what was wrong and
> where to go to get it fixed. How cool is that? And this time it isn't
> Microsoft telling me how it should work. It actually works for real!
>
> I have been on Windows (and other OS's) since the 80s. Finally I am in
> a situation where I do not feel the need to dual-boot my laptop with
> Linux, QNX, OS/2 etc. I simply do not need it at this point. That's a
> first for me!
>
> And don't even get me started on Office 2007. Also an innovative good
> looking office package that seems to work beautifully. Expensive
> though! Very expensive. Going to create a lot of thieves.
>
> If you could look me up and see where and what I have posted about
> operating systems in the past you would be shocked over what I am
> saying here. This is a big deal for me: I love an OS for Microsoft!
>
> My only question is: Why are everyone having so much against something
> that seems to be very good? Do they trust the press and all those who
> just enjoys trashing things without even trying it? I do not get it.
> But who cares. I love my new OS and are currently busy tweaking the
> little details which makes it all mine, and Vista hums along nicely in
> that process also.
>
> //ceed-o-rama
>
Ignoring the knot heads that just need to whine to get attention, I think
most of the problems are either older hardware with driver issues,
incompatible third party software, or PEBKAC.

BTW, what "stuff Microsoft has cluttered Vista with" did you remove? My PC
runs very nice but there is always room for improvement. ;-)


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Old 09-01-2007   #3 (permalink)
Kerry Brown
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Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

While I can't say I love any OS, or any software for that matter, I agree
with most of your post. To answer your question - It is very fashionable to
bash Microsoft and Vista. The way the Internet works whatever is popular
soon becomes accepted as "fact". This is a problem with society in general
and not limited to Vista bashing. Currently a lot of revenue is created by
web advertising. A web site that gets around 10,000 visitors a month can
make about $100.00 a month from ads just by adding a couple of lines of
code. This means there are many people trying to get rated high in search
engines. To do this they write about popular/controversial topics. If you do
a search for "Vista has problems" strangely enough all the top rated sites
in the search do a lot of advertising. Some of the articles aren't even
really about problems in Vista but the page is optimized so it is rated high
with those search terms. It doesn't matter what the links on the first page
of search results are about people will click on them and read them. It's
human nature to believe something you read. As more people read and repeat
something it becomes "fact". They may write about it in their blogs, or post
it on newsgroups or forums. It is self perpetuating. Internet "facts" may
not even be close to the truth. It is the very old game of lining up several
people, whispering something to the first person in the line, then having
each person repeat this to the next person, and comparing what the last
person heard with what you told the first person. They are rarely the same.
The Internet amplifies this to the nth degree.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


"ceed" <ceed.spameater@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1188647977.894506.317100@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> As an Internet and computer geezer I am not easily impressed. It seems
> like two things I should be concerned about these days, according to
> all the bloggers and press, is to love the iPhone and hate Vista. I
> tried to do both. It didn't work. I like the iPhone, but I do not love
> it. I do not hate Vista, in fact I do not even like it. I love Vista!
> Ooooh, felt good to finally say that!
>
> In my opinion this is the best Microsoft has ever done. On my new HP
> dv2550se laptop (another device I'm currently in love with) Vista runs
> like a charm. After I got rid of all the stuff HP put on there, and
> then all the stuff Microsoft has cluttered Vista with I am left with a
> rock solid beautifully looking (without being an Apple rip) user
> interface. The only problems I have had has been with a couple of
> drivers that didn't like Vista. I got those replaced and everything
> was fine again.
>
> For me Vista simply works great. Even the error detection when I had
> those pesky driver issues worked. Vista told me what was wrong and
> where to go to get it fixed. How cool is that? And this time it isn't
> Microsoft telling me how it should work. It actually works for real!
>
> I have been on Windows (and other OS's) since the 80s. Finally I am in
> a situation where I do not feel the need to dual-boot my laptop with
> Linux, QNX, OS/2 etc. I simply do not need it at this point. That's a
> first for me!
>
> And don't even get me started on Office 2007. Also an innovative good
> looking office package that seems to work beautifully. Expensive
> though! Very expensive. Going to create a lot of thieves.
>
> If you could look me up and see where and what I have posted about
> operating systems in the past you would be shocked over what I am
> saying here. This is a big deal for me: I love an OS for Microsoft!
>
> My only question is: Why are everyone having so much against something
> that seems to be very good? Do they trust the press and all those who
> just enjoys trashing things without even trying it? I do not get it.
> But who cares. I love my new OS and are currently busy tweaking the
> little details which makes it all mine, and Vista hums along nicely in
> that process also.
>
> //ceed-o-rama
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-01-2007   #4 (permalink)
Rich
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Adam NotTooBright wrote:
Quote:

> Well old geezer, you need to get a life. If you're in love with any
Heh.

Look at the life offered as an example here

Quote:

> Because old man, looks can be deceiving. You apparently just play with
they sure can, you, apparently have been deceived

Quote:

> I can't trust Microsoft. Not anymore. Not after last weekend when they
right, the weekend that was? what happened? I missed it
as apparently did most everyone else

Quote:

> Which is after all the point and the reason I just commented. It never
> is too late to wake up.

Your only hope, will you?




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Old 09-01-2007   #5 (permalink)
David
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Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Just wait until you try searching for a file that you know is there and
Vista can't find it. Then tell me how much you love Vista.

Dave
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-01-2007   #6 (permalink)
Charlie Wilkes
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:59:37 -0700, ceed wrote:
Quote:

>
> I have been on Windows (and other OS's) since the 80s. Finally I am in a
> situation where I do not feel the need to dual-boot my laptop with
> Linux, QNX, OS/2 etc. I simply do not need it at this point. That's a
> first for me!
This is an interesting comment that suggests a couple of questions...
First, why did you feel a need to dual-boot when you were running other
versions of Windows, and what specific Vista capabilities or features
have changed the equation?
Quote:

>
> My only question is: Why are everyone having so much against something
> that seems to be very good? Do they trust the press and all those who
> just enjoys trashing things without even trying it?
Well, I don't "trust the press" as a matter of principle, but when I read
numerous reviews and articles that line up on key points, I tend to
assume that not everyone is lying. The main complaints people have with
Vista include incompatibity with software and hardware, slow file copying/
moving on some systems, strange and unpredictable changes in software
settings, and problems with the WGA license server.

All of these are issues that Microsoft will undoubtedly fix at some
point. The consensus is not so much that Vista is hopelessly bad, but
that it presents a lot of annoyances without offering any substantial
benefits that justify switching to a new OS.

Obviously, you disagree with this, so what exactly are the benefits in
your mind? You mention the interface and the fact that a web script
actually worked for once by pointing you toward the proper driver.
That's doesn't seem like much, frankly. And you say that Vista is "rock
solid," but this statement is undermined by your comments in another
thread, where you talk about how Vista blue-screened on a flaky driver.
In my experience, a system that blue screens is locked up and can only be
recovered with a hard power-off. If Vista is prone to doing that under
any circumstances that could be considered ordinary, then it is not "rock
solid."

Charlie
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-01-2007   #7 (permalink)
HeyBub
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Kerry Brown wrote:
Quote:

> While I can't say I love any OS, or any software for that matter, I
> agree with most of your post. To answer your question - It is very
> fashionable to bash Microsoft and Vista.
Not really. A few dozen people are afflicted with "Microsoft Derangement
Syndrome." They just have a high decibel level.
Quote:

> The way the Internet works
> whatever is popular soon becomes accepted as "fact". This is a
> problem with society in general and not limited to Vista bashing.
Right. But "Facts" can be eventually overcome. Consider "Global Warming."
Slowly, but surely, hard science is rendering Al Gore and his alarmist
friends irrelevant.




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Old 09-01-2007   #8 (permalink)
Kurt Herman
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Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

I had that problem. The solution is simple. Make sure you take ownership of
all the files on your machine (easiest done on the drive level). Also right
click on the mag glass next to the search box in the start menu, select
properties, customize start menu, scroll down to search files, select the
Search entire index button.

Also, what may indeed be a bug, ownership set to "Everyone", is NOT the same
as set to a specific user name. I had set some folders to "Everyone", and
index couldn't find them. Once I set them to the "user" name I am logged in
as, they indexed and popped up instantly on the search.

Kurt

"David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:-JCdnaQEKLabIUTbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Just wait until you try searching for a file that you know is there and
> Vista can't find it. Then tell me how much you love Vista.
>
> Dave
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Old 09-01-2007   #9 (permalink)
David
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Kurt Herman wrote:
Quote:

> I had that problem. The solution is simple. Make sure you take
> ownership of all the files on your machine (easiest done on the drive
> level). Also right click on the mag glass next to the search box in
> the start menu, select properties, customize start menu, scroll down
> to search files, select the Search entire index button.
>
> Also, what may indeed be a bug, ownership set to "Everyone", is NOT
> the same as set to a specific user name. I had set some folders to
> "Everyone", and index couldn't find them. Once I set them to the
> "user" name I am logged in as, they indexed and popped up instantly on
> the search.
>
> Kurt
>
> "David" <david@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:-JCdnaQEKLabIUTbnZ2dnUVZ_ojinZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Just wait until you try searching for a file that you know is there
>> and Vista can't find it. Then tell me how much you love Vista.
>>
>> Dave
>
so much for your theory: all the files are owned by my username. they
fail to be indexed, even when those that I have spot checked to make
sure they are set to be indexed, as indicated in their properties. got
any other ideas on this issue?

Dave
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-01-2007   #10 (permalink)
David
Guest


 
 

Re: Coming out of the closet: I love Vista!

Quote:

> they fail to be indexed, even when those that I have spot checked to
> make sure they are set to be indexed, as indicated in their properties.
>
> Dave
oops! look like I typed some nonsense. I meant to say "They fail to be
indexed, including some I've spot checked for the "index this file for
faster searching" attribute, listed under Advanced Attributes, on the
General Tab.

BTW, I appreciate you trying to help, but that didn't pan out, so I'm
open to any other suggestions u might have.

Dave
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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