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Old 09-13-2007   #11 (permalink)


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Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Bert Kinney View Post
Bowen wrote:

Hi Shawn,

Yes, Perfect Disk may be responsible for missing restore points particularly
if it is run before Vista loads.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
All About System Restore in WinXP
Member: Welcome to DTS-L.org
Bert,

Thank you for the information. I will remember that one.

Shawn

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Old 09-13-2007   #12 (permalink)


Vista HP x64
 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by brink View Post
Bowen,

I would not think that they would do anything unless they had a feature that cleans junk off the hard drive.

For a test, you might bump up the size to 150 GB to see if it will hold more. If not, you can bump it back down.

Shawn
Thanks, how do I raise the size? Like I said I'll try the Diskeeping thing. I'll try it tonight sometime and see what happens. BTW, it's got 7 restore points right now. I bet it's Perfect Disk. I'll test it tonight and see if it's the culprit or not.
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Old 09-13-2007   #13 (permalink)


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Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Bowen View Post
Thanks, how do I raise the size? Like I said I'll try the Diskeeping thing. I'll try it tonight sometime and see what happens. BTW, it's got 7 restore points right now. I bet it's Perfect Disk. I'll test it tonight and see if it's the culprit or not.
Bowen,

The second step will show you how in this tutorial. I hope it works out with the test.

System Restore - disk space

Shawn
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Old 09-17-2007   #14 (permalink)


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Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

OK, well I finally got around to using Perfect Disk and I've confirmed that it's the culprit. Diskeeper was doing the same thing too. Prior to running Perfect Disk, I had 9 Restore Points saved. Then I ran PD and it wanted to do a boot time defrag and I agreed and after it finished, all my restore points were gone.

This is OK since my system is running flawlessly right now, but what I want to know is how can I program PD to stay away from the Restore Points?

Thanks for all your help. At least I know the cause, so the problem is 50% solved IMO. I know I could simply uninstall PD, but that's not a real fix since Diskeeper does this too. There's got to be a way to work around this.
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Old 09-17-2007   #15 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Bowen,

Well, that stinks. I do not use those programs, but surely there must be a setting, in the options somewhere in the program, to uncheck some cleaning feature causing this.

Shawn
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Old 09-17-2007   #16 (permalink)


Vista HP x64
 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Here's another thread at Techguy Forums and Rollin' Rog, one of the mods there contacted Raxco. They said that it shouldn't be doing it. It happened to him too, BTW. Anyway check out the thread here: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically.... - Tech Support Guy Forums

Post #9 is the one where he contacted them and they responded.
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Old 09-17-2007   #17 (permalink)
Bert Kinney


 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Hi,

I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points should
not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running PerfectDisk
from within Vista should be save.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org


Bowen wrote:
Quote:

> OK, well I finally got around to using Perfect Disk and I've confirmed
> that it's the culprit. Diskeeper was doing the same thing too. Prior
> to running Perfect Disk, I had 9 Restore Points saved. Then I ran PD
> and it wanted to do a boot time defrag and I agreed and after it
> finished, all my restore points were gone.
>
> This is OK since my system is running flawlessly right now, but what I
> want to know is how can I program PD to stay away from the Restore
> Points?
>
> Thanks for all your help. At least I know the cause, so the problem is
> 50% solved IMO. I know I could simply uninstall PD, but that's not a
> real fix since Diskeeper does this too. There's got to be a way to work
> around this.
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Old 09-18-2007   #18 (permalink)


Vista HP x64
 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Bert Kinney View Post
Hi,

I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points should
not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running PerfectDisk
from within Vista should be save.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
All About System Restore in WinXP
Member: Welcome to DTS-L.org


Bowen wrote:
So as long as you don't run a boot time defrag, it shouldn't delete restore points then? I'll have to try that out because I really like Perfect Disk. I have Diskeeper too and I like it better (PerfectDisk) than Diskeeper because...well it's faster.

*EDIT*
Well, another poster said in the techguy forums said that he ran PD (in Vista) and it did delete his older restore points. What options did you select when you ran PD in Windows?

Last edited by Bowen; 09-18-2007 at 01:18 AM..
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Old 09-19-2007   #19 (permalink)
Bert Kinney


 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....



Bowen wrote:
Quote:

> Bert Kinney;455024 Wrote:
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> I had the same experience with PerfectDisk and Vista. Restore points
>> should
>> not be deleted unless PerfectDisk is run at boot up. Running
>> PerfectDisk
>> from within Vista should be save.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
>> 'All About System Restore in WinXP' (http://bertk.mvps.org)
>> Member: 'Welcome to DTS-L.org' (http://dts-l.org)
>>
>>
>> Bowen wrote:
>
> So as long as you don't run a boot time defrag, it shouldn't delete
> restore points then? I'll have to try that out because I really like
> Perfect Disk. I have Diskeeper too and I like it better (PerfectDisk)
> than Diskeeper because...well it's faster.
That's correct. Give it try and let us know the results.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org
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Old 09-21-2007   #20 (permalink)


Vista HP x64
 
 

Re: System Restore Deleting Restore Points Automatically....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Bert Kinney View Post
Bowen wrote:

That's correct. Give it try and let us know the results.

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
All About System Restore in WinXP
Member: Welcome to DTS-L.org
Well, you were correct Bert, it didn't delete any restore points within Windows. However, it took an hour and sixteen minutes to complete and PD said I didn't even need to defrag. The thing about doing a boot time defrag is that it only takes......well it only took 5 minutes the last time I did it, but of course it wipes out the restore points.

I think what I'm gonna do is go ahead and do boot time defrags and then immediately make a manual restore point afterwards. I imagine the boot time defrag only defrags certain files, where the Windows defrag does the entire hard drive. At least now I know though.

Do you happen to know a workaround for doing a boot time defrag while saving your restore points? This would be a little annoying and out of the way, but couldn't you say, burn your restore points (at least some of them) to a DVD-RW and then do a boot time defrag and then just copy them back afterwards. Would that work per chance?
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