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Old 09-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
keepout


 
 

appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad
nauseum. WHY

Why do I have this never ending folder, link, folder, link that never ends ?
I was able to measure how many bytes are in it, over 37 gigs.

Is this why Vista is so slow ? it has to span 70-100 folders just to findthe
config settings for the applications ?

I know it repeats itself more than 10 times. the 70-100 I hope is an
exaggeration. But it's like looking into a mirror of a mirror. There's noend
to it.

example:

C:\Users\ken\LOCALS~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\Application
Data\Application Data..

I just got bored but it goes on and on and on. The folder itself shows 0bytes
using properties, but using total commander it shows over 37 gigs. The link's
properties is a whole different thing.
All of the folders no mattter how many, were created 22 minutes ago. IOW : when
I opened the local settings folder.
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Old 09-12-2007   #2 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

Hi,

You have a problem with some program that you are running or are trying to
run that is causing this. Applications should run under
%userprofile%\Appdata, not under %userprofile%\local~1\application data. The
bottom level folder may tell you what application it is.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

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appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum
ad
nauseum. WHY

Why do I have this never ending folder, link, folder, link that never ends ?
I was able to measure how many bytes are in it, over 37 gigs.

Is this why Vista is so slow ? it has to span 70-100 folders just to find
the
config settings for the applications ?

I know it repeats itself more than 10 times. the 70-100 I hope is an
exaggeration. But it's like looking into a mirror of a mirror. There's no
end
to it.

example:

C:\Users\ken\LOCALS~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\Application
Data\Application Data..

I just got bored but it goes on and on and on. The folder itself shows 0
bytes
using properties, but using total commander it shows over 37 gigs. The
link's
properties is a whole different thing.
All of the folders no mattter how many, were created 22 minutes ago. IOW :
when
I opened the local settings folder.
--
more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-13-2007   #3 (permalink)
keepout


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:24:42 -0400, "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Hi,
>
>You have a problem with some program that you are running or are trying to
>run that is causing this. Applications should run under
>%userprofile%\Appdata, not under %userprofile%\local~1\application data.The
>bottom level folder may tell you what application it is.
Yeah like that's going to happen. The below is just from a few seconds of
following the links.
Quote:

>C:\Users\ken\LOCALS~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\Application
>Data\Application Data..
>
>I just got bored but it goes on and on and on. The folder itself shows 0
>bytes
>
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Old 09-13-2007   #4 (permalink)


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

<keepout@xxxxxx> moaned...
Because "Rick Rogers" suggested...
Quote:

>You have a problem with some program that you are running or are trying to
>run that is causing this. Applications should run under
>%userprofile%\Appdata, not under %userprofile%\local~1\application data.
>The
>bottom level folder may tell you what application it is.
Yeah like that's going to happen. The below is just from a few seconds of
following the links.
Quote:

>C:\Users\ken\LOCALS~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\APPLIC~1\Application
>Data\Application Data..
>
>I just got bored but it goes on and on and on. The folder itself shows 0
>bytes
>
So, you have a problem with your computer and came in here to ask for help
but don't like the answer you got, right? We can't help you fix it if you
refuse to work a little. It's your computer, so only you can decide whether
or not you really want to get it working correctly. It's kind of like the
joke about the guy that prays to God to win the lottery, every week, but
never buys a ticket. You have to do your part if you want to get any
results.


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Old 09-13-2007   #5 (permalink)
keepout


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:19:29 -0400, <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>So, you have a problem with your computer and came in here to ask for help
>but don't like the answer you got, right? We can't help you fix it if you
>refuse to work a little. It's your computer, so only you can decide whether
>or not you really want to get it working correctly. It's kind of like the
>joke about the guy that prays to God to win the lottery, every week, but
>never buys a ticket. You have to do your part if you want to get any
>results.
There are limits. I followed it as far as I intended to. The problem was the
folder had the link to itself. You opened the link, you opened the folderetc..
ad infinitum ad nauseum.
IOW: there WAS NO END. The 101st folder opened was the 1st folder. The 101st
link, was the 1st link. The only differences appeared in the path bar, and the
tree. They were the SAME link & SAME folder.
re-opening the same 2 items over and over again, accomplishes nothing.
The DATE was IDENTICAL on the 10th Folder I opened. IOW #10 was not created at
the same time, it WAS the SAME FOLDER.

The folder opened folders that had a folder link that pointed to itself. It was
circular..
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Old 09-13-2007   #6 (permalink)
Bill Yanaire


 
 

I think what he means....

I think what he means is you should try and see what is going on with your
computer. Are there any files in the directory? Look at the dates on the
folders. Do they correspond to any programs that you were running at that
time?

Did you install something new recently? Another possibility is that it
could be a virus. Is your antivirus up to date? Since it's your computer,
try and see if you can narrow it down a bit more.


<keepout@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:19:29 -0400, <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>So, you have a problem with your computer and came in here to ask for help
>but don't like the answer you got, right? We can't help you fix it if you
>refuse to work a little. It's your computer, so only you can decide whether
>or not you really want to get it working correctly. It's kind of like the
>joke about the guy that prays to God to win the lottery, every week, but
>never buys a ticket. You have to do your part if you want to get any
>results.
There are limits. I followed it as far as I intended to. The problem was the
folder had the link to itself. You opened the link, you opened the folder
etc..
ad infinitum ad nauseum.
IOW: there WAS NO END. The 101st folder opened was the 1st folder. The 101st
link, was the 1st link. The only differences appeared in the path bar, and
the
tree. They were the SAME link & SAME folder.
re-opening the same 2 items over and over again, accomplishes nothing.
The DATE was IDENTICAL on the 10th Folder I opened. IOW #10 was not created
at
the same time, it WAS the SAME FOLDER.

The folder opened folders that had a folder link that pointed to itself. It
was
circular..
--
more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-13-2007   #7 (permalink)


 
 

Re: I think what he means....

> <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>So, you have a problem with your computer and came in here to ask for help
>>but don't like the answer you got, right? We can't help you fix it if you
>>refuse to work a little. It's your computer, so only you can decide
>>whether
>>or not you really want to get it working correctly. It's kind of like the
>>joke about the guy that prays to God to win the lottery, every week, but
>>never buys a ticket. You have to do your part if you want to get any
>>results.
Quote:

> <keepout@xxxxxx> replied...
> There are limits. I followed it as far as I intended to. The problem was
> the
> folder had the link to itself. You opened the link, you opened the folder
> etc..
> ad infinitum ad nauseum.
> IOW: there WAS NO END. The 101st folder opened was the 1st folder. The
> 101st
> link, was the 1st link. The only differences appeared in the path bar, and
> the
> tree. They were the SAME link & SAME folder.
> re-opening the same 2 items over and over again, accomplishes nothing.
> The DATE was IDENTICAL on the 10th Folder I opened. IOW #10 was not
> created at
> the same time, it WAS the SAME FOLDER.
>
> The folder opened folders that had a folder link that pointed to itself.
> It was
> circular..
"Bill Yanaire" clarified...
Quote:

>I think what he means is you should try and see what is going on with your
>computer. Are there any files in the directory? Look at the dates on the
>folders. Do they correspond to any programs that you were running at that
>time?
>
> Did you install something new recently? Another possibility is that it
> could be a virus. Is your antivirus up to date? Since it's your computer,
> try and see if you can narrow it down a bit more.
>
Thanks! I wasn't too clear at the time - diabetic need-to-eat syndrome. Yes,
there has to be more going on, and we need more info to figure out what
steps are needed to correct it. Sorry I wasn't more specific in my earlier
reply.


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Old 09-13-2007   #8 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

Might want to check the properties of said folders and see if it lists what
created it.

By the way, "C:\Users\<user>\appdata\local\application data" is, or at least
should be, nothing more than a shortcut.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

<keepout@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:19:29 -0400, <here@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>So, you have a problem with your computer and came in here to ask for help
>but don't like the answer you got, right? We can't help you fix it if you
>refuse to work a little. It's your computer, so only you can decide whether
>or not you really want to get it working correctly. It's kind of like the
>joke about the guy that prays to God to win the lottery, every week, but
>never buys a ticket. You have to do your part if you want to get any
>results.
There are limits. I followed it as far as I intended to. The problem was the
folder had the link to itself. You opened the link, you opened the folder
etc..
ad infinitum ad nauseum.
IOW: there WAS NO END. The 101st folder opened was the 1st folder. The 101st
link, was the 1st link. The only differences appeared in the path bar, and
the
tree. They were the SAME link & SAME folder.
re-opening the same 2 items over and over again, accomplishes nothing.
The DATE was IDENTICAL on the 10th Folder I opened. IOW #10 was not created
at
the same time, it WAS the SAME FOLDER.

The folder opened folders that had a folder link that pointed to itself. It
was
circular..
--
more pix @ http://members.toast.net/cbminfo/index.html

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-13-2007   #9 (permalink)
keepout


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:19:29 -0400, "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Might want to check the properties of said folders and see if it lists what
>created it.
That's a new one on me, just where in properties does it tell you what created
something ?
Quote:

>
>By the way, "C:\Users\<user>\appdata\local\application data" is, or at least
>should be, nothing more than a shortcut.
this is the recursive mess
Quote:

>C:\Users\ken\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\ApplicationData\Application Data
and it goes on and on and on...
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Old 09-14-2007   #10 (permalink)
Rick Rogers


 
 

Re: appdata-local-Application Data-Application Data-Application Data infinitum ad nauseum. WHY

Right, it is a recursive mess. My point is that in order to resolve it you
need to figure out what software on your system is trying to make a 'real'
folder out of it (as it is a designated system shortcut, this is not
possible). The properties of the folders, or the lowest level one, might
give clues.

Another thought is to run process explorer and see what software is
accessing that location:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...sexplorer.mspx

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

<keepout@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:19:29 -0400, "Rick Rogers" <rick@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Might want to check the properties of said folders and see if it lists what
>created it.
That's a new one on me, just where in properties does it tell you what
created
something ?
Quote:

>
>By the way, "C:\Users\<user>\appdata\local\application data" is, or at
>least
>should be, nothing more than a shortcut.
this is the recursive mess
Quote:

>C:\Users\ken\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\Application
>Data\Application Data
and it goes on and on and on...
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