Vista - Help required Creating a dual boot

Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous post
now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see if one of
you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and installing vista
to that partition (without losing any of my current setup/files/progs etc
etc)

win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with 265 GB
freespace
2gb Ram
Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+

T5--

1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\ Do
you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?

If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and you'll
get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB partition.

On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software to
get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then if you
decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party as you were
told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on C:\ and I'll call
your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.

2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to make
a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party software like
Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and retain your XP Pro on
C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you installed XP Pro and I'm
guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left you haven't.

3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you how
to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the point. Mark
told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this cycle repeating?

Richard Urban posted:

Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell it to
install to.

Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as Partition
Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need 20 gig
of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
install. Then create the new partition.

Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively for your
Vista experiment.

During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
drive/partition.

I posted:
After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will pop
up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you want.

You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant and
so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things you can
1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.

I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in. It'd be
great and you can try.

CH




"T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous post
> now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see if one
> of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and installing
> vista to that partition (without losing any of my current
> setup/files/progs etc etc)
>
> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with 265
> GB freespace
> 2gb Ram
> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>

Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the first
thread you started.

Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space is
265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in after you
boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP desktop. Run the
Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever drive letter you have
assigned the other space.

Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that 265 GB.

CH

"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> T5--
>
> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\ Do
> you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>
> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and you'll
> get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB partition.
>
> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software to
> get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then if you
> decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party as you were
> told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on C:\ and I'll call
> your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>
> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party software
> like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and retain your XP
> Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you installed XP Pro and
> I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left you haven't.
>
> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you how
> to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the point. Mark
> told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this cycle repeating?
>
> Richard Urban posted:
>
> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell it
> to
> install to.
>
> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as Partition
> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need 20
> gig
> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
> install. Then create the new partition.
>
> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively for
> your
> Vista experiment.
>
> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
> drive/partition.
>
> I posted:
> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will pop
> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
> want.
>
> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant and
> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things you
> can
> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>
> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in. It'd
> be
> great and you can try.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see if
>> one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and
>> installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my current
>> setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>
>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with 265
>> GB freespace
>> 2gb Ram
>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>
>
>

thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction it
is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista beta
installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed vista it
gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which I presume is
xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct? I do know that
when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop the old windows was
in a folder called windows.old
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
> first thread you started.
>
> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space is
> 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in after
> you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP desktop. Run
> the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever drive letter you
> have assigned the other space.
>
> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that 265
> GB.
>
> CH
>
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> T5--
>>
>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\
>> Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>>
>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>> partition.
>>
>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software to
>> get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then if you
>> decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party as you
>> were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on C:\ and I'll
>> call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>>
>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
>> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party software
>> like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and retain your XP
>> Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you installed XP Pro
>> and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left you haven't.
>>
>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you
>> how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the point.
>> Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this cycle
>> repeating?
>>
>> Richard Urban posted:
>>
>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell it
>> to
>> install to.
>>
>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as Partition
>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need 20
>> gig
>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>
>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively for
>> your
>> Vista experiment.
>>
>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>> drive/partition.
>>
>> I posted:
>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will pop
>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>> want.
>>
>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant
>> and
>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things you
>> can
>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>
>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in. It'd
>> be
>> great and you can try.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see
>>> if one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and
>>> installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my current
>>> setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>
>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with 265
>>> GB freespace
>>> 2gb Ram
>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB and
typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to need to
read what we give you the first time and do it.

Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you infer
that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one that is
265GB. Whatever they are:

1) Boot into XP.
2) Insert the Vista DVD.
3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said and
I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever letter it
is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista goes.

If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big other
space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order not to lose
what is on the drive.

Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says finally
"Just Do It."

Good luck,

CH


"T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction it
> is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista beta
> installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed vista
> it gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which I
> presume is xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct? I do
> know that when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop the old
> windows was in a folder called windows.old
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>> first thread you started.
>>
>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space
>> is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in
>> after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP desktop.
>> Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever drive letter
>> you have assigned the other space.
>>
>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that 265
>> GB.
>>
>> CH
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> T5--
>>>
>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\
>>> Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>>>
>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>> partition.
>>>
>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software
>>> to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then if
>>> you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party as
>>> you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on C:\ and
>>> I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>>>
>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
>>> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party software
>>> like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and retain your XP
>>> Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you installed XP Pro
>>> and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left you haven't.
>>>
>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you
>>> how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the point.
>>> Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this cycle
>>> repeating?
>>>
>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>
>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell
>>> it to
>>> install to.
>>>
>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as Partition
>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need 20
>>> gig
>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>
>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively for
>>> your
>>> Vista experiment.
>>>
>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>> drive/partition.
>>>
>>> I posted:
>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will
>>> pop
>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>>> want.
>>>
>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant
>>> and
>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things you
>>> can
>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>
>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in. It'd
>>> be
>>> great and you can try.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>>>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see
>>>> if one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and
>>>> installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my current
>>>> setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>
>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with
>>>> 265 GB freespace
>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

It would appear he is doing an upgrade of his XP or he wouldn't have a .old
file. At least I did when I upgraded and didn't when I did a clean install.

"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
news:uMGav5enGHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB and
> typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to need
> to read what we give you the first time and do it.
>
> Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you infer
> that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one that is
> 265GB. Whatever they are:
>
> 1) Boot into XP.
> 2) Insert the Vista DVD.
> 3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
> 4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said
> and I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever letter
> it is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista goes.
>
> If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big other
> space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order not to
> lose what is on the drive.
>
> Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says finally
> "Just Do It."
>
> Good luck,
>
> CH
>
>
> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction
>> it is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista beta
>> installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed vista
>> it gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which I
>> presume is xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct? I do
>> know that when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop the old
>> windows was in a folder called windows.old
>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>>> first thread you started.
>>>
>>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space
>>> is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in
>>> after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP
>>> desktop. Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever
>>> drive letter you have assigned the other space.
>>>
>>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that 265
>>> GB.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> T5--
>>>>
>>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\
>>>> Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>>>>
>>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>>> partition.
>>>>
>>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software
>>>> to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then if
>>>> you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party as
>>>> you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on C:\
>>>> and I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>>>>
>>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
>>>> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party software
>>>> like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and retain your XP
>>>> Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you installed XP Pro
>>>> and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left you haven't.
>>>>
>>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you
>>>> how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the
>>>> point. Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this
>>>> cycle repeating?
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>>
>>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell
>>>> it to
>>>> install to.
>>>>
>>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as
>>>> Partition
>>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need
>>>> 20 gig
>>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>>
>>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively for
>>>> your
>>>> Vista experiment.
>>>>
>>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>>> drive/partition.
>>>>
>>>> I posted:
>>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will
>>>> pop
>>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>>>> want.
>>>>
>>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant
>>>> and
>>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things
>>>> you can
>>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in.
>>>> It'd be
>>>> great and you can try.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>>>>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and see
>>>>> if one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition and
>>>>> installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my current
>>>>> setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>>
>>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with
>>>>> 265 GB freespace
>>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks John,
Chad is getting really angry with me why? You seem to realise that I have xp
installed and no seperate partition just a c drive so why is it that Chad
seems to think that I have another partition D, E or whatever? I have never
inferred that I have anything other than a C drive with win xp pro installed
so why is he getting so tetchy? Ok I am not an expert but I am not stupid
either. I said that I have a 300gb hdd with 265gb remaining after xp, office
pro etc etc is installed so it is all on c drive, there is no D drive is
that clear enough?
"John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:5DC7D6C4-EF72-4962-AAF1-D81259023CB7@microsoft.com...
> It would appear he is doing an upgrade of his XP or he wouldn't have a
> .old file. At least I did when I upgraded and didn't when I did a clean
> install.
>
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:uMGav5enGHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB and
>> typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to need
>> to read what we give you the first time and do it.
>>
>> Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you infer
>> that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one that is
>> 265GB. Whatever they are:
>>
>> 1) Boot into XP.
>> 2) Insert the Vista DVD.
>> 3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
>> 4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said
>> and I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever
>> letter it is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista goes.
>>
>> If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big
>> other space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order not
>> to lose what is on the drive.
>>
>> Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says finally
>> "Just Do It."
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction
>>> it is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista beta
>>> installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed vista
>>> it gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which I
>>> presume is xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct? I
>>> do know that when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop the
>>> old windows was in a folder called windows.old
>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>>>> first thread you started.
>>>>
>>>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space
>>>> is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in
>>>> after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP
>>>> desktop. Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever
>>>> drive letter you have assigned the other space.
>>>>
>>>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>>>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that
>>>> 265 GB.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> T5--
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\
>>>>> Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>>>> partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software
>>>>> to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then
>>>>> if you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party
>>>>> as you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on
>>>>> C:\ and I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
>>>>> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party
>>>>> software like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and
>>>>> retain your XP Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you
>>>>> installed XP Pro and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left
>>>>> you haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you
>>>>> how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the
>>>>> point. Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this
>>>>> cycle repeating?
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell
>>>>> it to
>>>>> install to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as
>>>>> Partition
>>>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need
>>>>> 20 gig
>>>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively
>>>>> for your
>>>>> Vista experiment.
>>>>>
>>>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>>>> drive/partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted:
>>>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will
>>>>> pop
>>>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>>>>> want.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant
>>>>> and
>>>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things
>>>>> you can
>>>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in.
>>>>> It'd be
>>>>> great and you can try.
>>>>>
>>>>> CH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>>>>>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and
>>>>>> see if one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition
>>>>>> and installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my
>>>>>> current setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with
>>>>>> 265 GB freespace
>>>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

No, windows.old means that he did NOT do an upgrade. It means he did a
custom (clean) installation to the same partition as his old operating
system and did not format the partition.

"John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:5DC7D6C4-EF72-4962-AAF1-D81259023CB7@microsoft.com...
> It would appear he is doing an upgrade of his XP or he wouldn't have a
> .old file. At least I did when I upgraded and didn't when I did a clean
> install.
>
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:uMGav5enGHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB and
>> typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to need
>> to read what we give you the first time and do it.
>>
>> Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you infer
>> that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one that is
>> 265GB. Whatever they are:
>>
>> 1) Boot into XP.
>> 2) Insert the Vista DVD.
>> 3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
>> 4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said
>> and I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever
>> letter it is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista goes.
>>
>> If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big
>> other space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order not
>> to lose what is on the drive.
>>
>> Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says finally
>> "Just Do It."
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction
>>> it is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista beta
>>> installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed vista
>>> it gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which I
>>> presume is xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct? I
>>> do know that when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop the
>>> old windows was in a folder called windows.old
>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>>>> first thread you started.
>>>>
>>>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other space
>>>> is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the DVD in
>>>> after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your XP
>>>> desktop. Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever
>>>> drive letter you have assigned the other space.
>>>>
>>>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>>>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that
>>>> 265 GB.
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> T5--
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than C:\
>>>>> Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other 250GB?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>>>> partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party software
>>>>> to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space and then
>>>>> if you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need 3rd party
>>>>> as you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose what is on
>>>>> C:\ and I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't name it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box to
>>>>> make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party
>>>>> software like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and
>>>>> retain your XP Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you
>>>>> installed XP Pro and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD left
>>>>> you haven't.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told you
>>>>> how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the
>>>>> point. Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this
>>>>> cycle repeating?
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU tell
>>>>> it to
>>>>> install to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as
>>>>> Partition
>>>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need
>>>>> 20 gig
>>>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively
>>>>> for your
>>>>> Vista experiment.
>>>>>
>>>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>>>> drive/partition.
>>>>>
>>>>> I posted:
>>>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will
>>>>> pop
>>>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>>>>> want.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault tolerant
>>>>> and
>>>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things
>>>>> you can
>>>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in.
>>>>> It'd be
>>>>> great and you can try.
>>>>>
>>>>> CH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my previous
>>>>>> post now I'll give you the current configaration of my machine and
>>>>>> see if one of you can give me an idiots guide to creating a partition
>>>>>> and installing vista to that partition (without losing any of my
>>>>>> current setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with
>>>>>> 265 GB freespace
>>>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

I stand corrected.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%236ef1XfnGHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> No, windows.old means that he did NOT do an upgrade. It means he did a
> custom (clean) installation to the same partition as his old operating
> system and did not format the partition.
>
> "John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> news:5DC7D6C4-EF72-4962-AAF1-D81259023CB7@microsoft.com...
>> It would appear he is doing an upgrade of his XP or he wouldn't have a
>> .old file. At least I did when I upgraded and didn't when I did a clean
>> install.
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>> news:uMGav5enGHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB
>>> and typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to
>>> need to read what we give you the first time and do it.
>>>
>>> Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you
>>> infer that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one
>>> that is 265GB. Whatever they are:
>>>
>>> 1) Boot into XP.
>>> 2) Insert the Vista DVD.
>>> 3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
>>> 4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said
>>> and I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever
>>> letter it is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista goes.
>>>
>>> If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big
>>> other space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order
>>> not to lose what is on the drive.
>>>
>>> Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says finally
>>> "Just Do It."
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your correction
>>>> it is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears that vista
>>>> beta installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I have installed
>>>> vista it gives me the option to boot into vista or to another os (which
>>>> I presume is xp pro although I havent tried this yet) is this correct?
>>>> I do know that when I first installed vista and booted to the desktop
>>>> the old windows was in a folder called windows.old
>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>>>>> first thread you started.
>>>>>
>>>>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other
>>>>> space is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the
>>>>> DVD in after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your
>>>>> XP desktop. Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain whatever
>>>>> drive letter you have assigned the other space.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>>>>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that
>>>>> 265 GB.
>>>>>
>>>>> CH
>>>>>
>>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> T5--
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than
>>>>>> C:\ Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other
>>>>>> 250GB?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>>>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party
>>>>>> software to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space
>>>>>> and then if you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need
>>>>>> 3rd party as you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose
>>>>>> what is on C:\ and I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't
>>>>>> name it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box
>>>>>> to make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party
>>>>>> software like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and
>>>>>> retain your XP Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you
>>>>>> installed XP Pro and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD
>>>>>> left you haven't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told
>>>>>> you how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to the
>>>>>> point. Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is this
>>>>>> cycle repeating?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU
>>>>>> tell it to
>>>>>> install to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as
>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will need
>>>>>> 20 gig
>>>>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>>>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively
>>>>>> for your
>>>>>> Vista experiment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>>>>> drive/partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I posted:
>>>>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista will
>>>>>> pop
>>>>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition you
>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault
>>>>>> tolerant and
>>>>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in.
>>>>>> It'd be
>>>>>> great and you can try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CH
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my
>>>>>>> previous post now I'll give you the current configaration of my
>>>>>>> machine and see if one of you can give me an idiots guide to
>>>>>>> creating a partition and installing vista to that partition (without
>>>>>>> losing any of my current setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD with
>>>>>>> 265 GB freespace
>>>>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

No, you are correct and I blew it. (I tried to cancel my reply).

"John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:46B672F1-2D35-4F7D-B93F-64760B32A280@microsoft.com...
>I stand corrected.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%236ef1XfnGHA.1808@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> No, windows.old means that he did NOT do an upgrade. It means he did a
>> custom (clean) installation to the same partition as his old operating
>> system and did not format the partition.
>>
>> "John Barnes" <JBarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> news:5DC7D6C4-EF72-4962-AAF1-D81259023CB7@microsoft.com...
>>> It would appear he is doing an upgrade of his XP or he wouldn't have a
>>> .old file. At least I did when I upgraded and didn't when I did a clean
>>> install.
>>>
>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uMGav5enGHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> The only thing the correction pointed out is that I didn't type 265GB
>>>> and typed 250GB by mistake as to what you have left over. You learn to
>>>> need to read what we give you the first time and do it.
>>>>
>>>> Then if you have more questions ask them. Say explicitly what you
>>>> infer that you have two partitions right now--one that is 15 GB and one
>>>> that is 265GB. Whatever they are:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Boot into XP.
>>>> 2) Insert the Vista DVD.
>>>> 3) Run setup that will appear on your XP desktop.
>>>> 4) It will ask you where you want Vista and you tell it as Richard said
>>>> and I said where you want it--that partition that isn't XP whatever
>>>> letter it is --I called it D but whatever it is that's where Vista
>>>> goes.
>>>>
>>>> If now you want to make further "divisions" --partitions of that big
>>>> other space, you are going to have to get 3rd party software in order
>>>> not to lose what is on the drive.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any further specific questions? If not as Nike says
>>>> finally "Just Do It."
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> CH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eLYql$dnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> thx Chad, but as you yourself have acknowledged through your
>>>>> correction it is not as crystal clear as you first said. It appears
>>>>> that vista beta installs itself alongside xp as when I boot after I
>>>>> have installed vista it gives me the option to boot into vista or to
>>>>> another os (which I presume is xp pro although I havent tried this
>>>>> yet) is this correct? I do know that when I first installed vista and
>>>>> booted to the desktop the old windows was in a folder called
>>>>> windows.old
>>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ODxoqebnGHA.964@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Not sure what help is required that we didn't give you already on the
>>>>>> first thread you started.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correction: I assume you have C:\ 15GB with XP Pro and the other
>>>>>> space is 265GB not 250GB as I typed in the first sentence. Put the
>>>>>> DVD in after you boot to XP Pro on C:\ and setup will pop up on your
>>>>>> XP desktop. Run the Vista setup from there and it will retain
>>>>>> whatever drive letter you have assigned the other space.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any further partitioning will have to be done by 3rd party like PM or
>>>>>> Acronis if you want to retain what you have while you parcel up that
>>>>>> 265 GB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23hNGWabnGHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> T5--
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) Do you have the HD already partitioned into anything other than
>>>>>>> C:\ Do you have C:\50GB and D:\ or whichever drive letter the other
>>>>>>> 250GB?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so just boot up XP and insert your DVD and run setup from XP and
>>>>>>> you'll get the option to direct to your other presummably 250GB
>>>>>>> partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the previous thread you were told clearly to get 3rd party
>>>>>>> software to get this done. You can put Vista on the remaining space
>>>>>>> and then if you decide to make partitions out of that, you will need
>>>>>>> 3rd party as you were told by Mark Vandenberg in order not to lose
>>>>>>> what is on C:\ and I'll call your remaing space D:\ since you didn't
>>>>>>> name it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) You can't use diskpart from cmd or diskmgmt.msc from the run box
>>>>>>> to make a partition with fault tolerance, i.e. you need 3rd party
>>>>>>> software like Symantec's Partition Magic to make a partition and
>>>>>>> retain your XP Pro on C:\ unless you've already partitioned when you
>>>>>>> installed XP Pro and I'm guessing with the 265 GB of the 300GB HD
>>>>>>> left you haven't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3) On the previous thread Richard Urban, Colin, I and others told
>>>>>>> you how to do this. Richard Urban's post was crystal clear and to
>>>>>>> the point. Mark told you that you needed 3rd party software. Why is
>>>>>>> this cycle repeating?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard Urban posted:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vista setup does not create anything. It gets installed where YOU
>>>>>>> tell it to
>>>>>>> install to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Prepare before you install. Use a third party program, such as
>>>>>>> Partition
>>>>>>> Magic 8.01 (or later) to shrink your current partition. You will
>>>>>>> need 20 gig
>>>>>>> of free space to create another primary partition used for the Vista
>>>>>>> install. Then create the new partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Getting another hard drive would be even better. Use it exclusively
>>>>>>> for your
>>>>>>> Vista experiment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> During setup, be certain to direct the installer to the correct
>>>>>>> drive/partition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I posted:
>>>>>>> After you burn the Iso, while you are in XP, the setup for Vista
>>>>>>> will pop
>>>>>>> up on your screen. You get the chance to direct to the partition
>>>>>>> you want.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can make partitions with Diskmanager; but it is not fault
>>>>>>> tolerant and
>>>>>>> so if you want to extend them or make new ones without losing things
>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>> 1) Backup 2) Use 3rd party.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think you'll be successful in getting MSFT to build it in.
>>>>>>> It'd be
>>>>>>> great and you can try.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> CH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:e%23MX9BbnGHA.4240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Ok guys thx for all of the help and advice you gave me in my
>>>>>>>> previous post now I'll give you the current configaration of my
>>>>>>>> machine and see if one of you can give me an idiots guide to
>>>>>>>> creating a partition and installing vista to that partition
>>>>>>>> (without losing any of my current setup/files/progs etc etc)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> win XP Pro on C drive all setup and working fine on a 300gb HDD
>>>>>>>> with 265 GB freespace
>>>>>>>> 2gb Ram
>>>>>>>> Athlon 64 dualcore 3800+
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>