Vista - SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100%

09-20-2007

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:

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> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:QP6dnVTYs9fHNm_bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxx

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>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:50:08 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:
>>

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>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:0oednbo29Mb39m_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@xxxxxx
>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB
>>>>> RAM and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference.
>>>>
>>>> Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original
>>>> post. Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a
>>>> massive difference.
>>>
>>> Have you been taking lessons in reading from alias? The OP said quite
>>> clearly that it works perfectly in the X41 but not in the other.

>>
>> Yes and I am responding in regards to the one that doesn't work.
>>
>> Now, what exactly did you contribute with your post?

>
> Well you appear to have got the idea that it has made his x41 slow and
> laggy which it hasn't.
> Its his other one of the two that has the problem. So my post should
> have cleared that up for you.. but maybe it didn't. Maybe you are just
> so keen to get in a bad word you didn't read it properly?

Where did I mention the model number x41? Where did I say that?

And no, I don't need you to clear anything up for me.

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09-20-2007

"Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:
>

Quote:

>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:QP6dnVTYs9fHNm_bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:50:08 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:0oednbo29Mb39m_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@xxxxxx
>>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB
>>>>>> RAM and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original
>>>>> post. Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a
>>>>> massive difference.
>>>>
>>>> Have you been taking lessons in reading from alias? The OP said quite
>>>> clearly that it works perfectly in the X41 but not in the other.
>>>
>>> Yes and I am responding in regards to the one that doesn't work.
>>>
>>> Now, what exactly did you contribute with your post?

>>
>> Well you appear to have got the idea that it has made his x41 slow and
>> laggy which it hasn't.
>> Its his other one of the two that has the problem. So my post should
>> have cleared that up for you.. but maybe it didn't. Maybe you are just
>> so keen to get in a bad word you didn't read it properly?

>
> Where did I mention the model number x41? Where did I say that?
>

Well its conventional to be commenting on the quote above your reply when
quoting in-line.
I suppose you may choose to be replying to something else if you want to
confuse people.

Quote:

> And no, I don't need you to clear anything up for me.

That OK but please try to clear things up for the rest of us not blessed
with sixth sense then.

09-20-2007

Stephan Rose wrote:

Quote:

> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote:
>
>

Quote:

>> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB RAM
>> and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference.
>>

>
> Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original post.
> Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a massive
> difference.
>
>

Quote:

>> The Z60m has the maximum 2GB RAM combination possible, and any extra
>> help in a slot never to be used cant be bad.
>>

>
> Actually yes it *can* be bad.
>
> Flash memory is by magnitudes slower than RAM. Adding it to a system as a
> substitute for RAM helps with systems around 512 megs of RAM or so that'd
> otherwise be constantly writing to the HDD instead. And even there,
> improvements can't really be guaranteed.
>
> If you already have 1.5 gigs of RAM, you're looking at next to nothing to
> gain by adding Flash memory.
>
> Even on systems where ready boost has been reported to actually give some
> improvements, any improvements started to disappear at the 1 gig mark on
> any benchmarks I've seen so far.
>
>

FWIW I have 2GB of ram and I see a slight improvement in responsiveness
with a 2GB SD card. Granted it's not like "night and day" but it's
better than not using it. The laptop it's in has a card reader activity
light, and I see it flicker often, so it's doing its thing. ONLY
because I got the card on sale ($19.99) do I feel it was worth the
effort. I'd feel foolish had I spent north of $40 for the card. YMMV.

Dave

09-20-2007

I think I need to put a few things straight...

The X41 (1.5GHz 1.5GB RAM) improves with ReadyBoost.

The Z60m (2.00Ghz and 2GB RAM) gets the CPU overload with ReadyBoost.

BOTH machines have the maximum RAM configuration so adding more RAM is
out of the question. Both machines respond well without the SD cards,
but after the visible improvement in the X41 I did the same for the
Z60m.

Whether paging is bad or not is irrelevant, I just want to know why
the Z60m gets CPU spikes when ReadyBoost is enabled...??? As
ReadyBoost should surely cause the opposite!!

09-20-2007

<rminnis82@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1190325824.923634.176630@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I think I need to put a few things straight...
>
> The X41 (1.5GHz 1.5GB RAM) improves with ReadyBoost.
>
> The Z60m (2.00Ghz and 2GB RAM) gets the CPU overload with ReadyBoost.
>
> BOTH machines have the maximum RAM configuration so adding more RAM is
> out of the question. Both machines respond well without the SD cards,
> but after the visible improvement in the X41 I did the same for the
> Z60m.
>
> Whether paging is bad or not is irrelevant, I just want to know why
> the Z60m gets CPU spikes when ReadyBoost is enabled...??? As
> ReadyBoost should surely cause the opposite!!
>

Do they both use the same SD card reader hardware and drivers?

09-21-2007

Different SD card readers, but I have installed the latest drivers for
both direct from the IBM website (both Vista drivers).

When ReadyBoost is NOT enabled on the Z60m, the SD card works as it
should. The issue I am having only occurs WHEN ReadyBoost is enabled
on the SD card.

09-21-2007

rminnis82@xxxxxx wrote:

Quote:

> Different SD card readers, but I have installed the latest drivers for
> both direct from the IBM website (both Vista drivers).
>
> When ReadyBoost is NOT enabled on the Z60m, the SD card works as it
> should. The issue I am having only occurs WHEN ReadyBoost is enabled
> on the SD card.
>

Have you tried disabling ReadyBoost on that card while in that laptop,
reformatting the card then enabling ReadyBoost?
Also be sure and go into device manager and under Disk drives enable in
properties on the card, "optimize for performance".
Frank

09-22-2007

Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal.

May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds like this problem is generic to Vista?

I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any one of these may have been the trigger.

Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz.

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09-22-2007

"JohnRankin" wrote in message news:2007922131146johnandrew@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply
> found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was
> ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal.
>
> May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds
> like this problem is generic to Vista?
>
> I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any one
> of these may have been the trigger.
>
> Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz.

It sounds like its a problem with particular drivers and/or hardware to me.
People report it working with SD cards on some machine but not on others..
Vista is common but the drivers and hardware are not.
Someone needs to compile a list of not working hardware and drivers to see
if there is a common problem.

09-24-2007

My suspicion is A: the USB Drive has mixed memory, enough FAST so it passes
the
ReadyBoost test and then does not function properly. B. indeed there is a
USB driver
problem or conflict. Many cheap drives do used mixed memory.

ReadyBoost Drives - Compatible

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/

http://www.activewin.com/reviews/har...adyboost.shtml

ReadyBoost Incompatible

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/re...s=incompatible

"dennis@xxxxxx" <dennis@xxxxxx-ass.net> wrote in message
news:4D560326-7720-429E-88AF-FD3D1D660FC4@xxxxxx

Quote:

>
> "JohnRankin" wrote in message news:2007922131146johnandrew@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply
>> found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was
>> ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal.
>>
>> May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds
>> like this problem is generic to Vista?
>>
>> I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any
>> one of these may have been the trigger.
>>
>> Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz.

>
> It sounds like its a problem with particular drivers and/or hardware to
> me.
> People report it working with SD cards on some machine but not on others..
> Vista is common but the drivers and hardware are not.
> Someone needs to compile a list of not working hardware and drivers to see
> if there is a common problem.

09-20-2007	#11 (permalink)
Stephan Rose n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: > "Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:QP6dnVTYs9fHNm_bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:50:08 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote: >> Quote: >>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:0oednbo29Mb39m_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@xxxxxx >>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB >>>>> RAM and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference. >>>> >>>> Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original >>>> post. Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a >>>> massive difference. >>> >>> Have you been taking lessons in reading from alias? The OP said quite >>> clearly that it works perfectly in the X41 but not in the other. >> >> Yes and I am responding in regards to the one that doesn't work. >> >> Now, what exactly did you contribute with your post? > > Well you appear to have got the idea that it has made his x41 slow and > laggy which it hasn't. > Its his other one of the two that has the problem. So my post should > have cleared that up for you.. but maybe it didn't. Maybe you are just > so keen to get in a bad word you didn't read it properly? Where did I mention the model number x41? Where did I say that? And no, I don't need you to clear anything up for me. -- Stephan 2003 Yamaha R6 å›ã®ã“ã¨æ€ã„å‡ºã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯ å›ã®ã“ã¨å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰
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09-20-2007	#12 (permalink)
dennis n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% "Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:QP6dnVbYs9enUW_bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:24:34 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote: > Quote: >> "Stephan Rose" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:QP6dnVTYs9fHNm_bnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:50:08 +0100, dennis@xxxxxx wrote: >>> >>>> "Stephan Rose" <nospam.noway@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:0oednbo29Mb39m_bnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@xxxxxx >>>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB >>>>>> RAM and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference. >>>>> >>>>> Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original >>>>> post. Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a >>>>> massive difference. >>>> >>>> Have you been taking lessons in reading from alias? The OP said quite >>>> clearly that it works perfectly in the X41 but not in the other. >>> >>> Yes and I am responding in regards to the one that doesn't work. >>> >>> Now, what exactly did you contribute with your post? >> >> Well you appear to have got the idea that it has made his x41 slow and >> laggy which it hasn't. >> Its his other one of the two that has the problem. So my post should >> have cleared that up for you.. but maybe it didn't. Maybe you are just >> so keen to get in a bad word you didn't read it properly? > > Where did I mention the model number x41? Where did I say that? > Well its conventional to be commenting on the quote above your reply when quoting in-line. I suppose you may choose to be replying to something else if you want to confuse people. Quote: > And no, I don't need you to clear anything up for me. That OK but please try to clear things up for the rest of us not blessed with sixth sense then.
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09-20-2007	#13 (permalink)
David n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% Stephan Rose wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:05:09 -0700, rminnis82 wrote: > > Quote: >> Well thats not actually true. The X41 has 1.5Ghz Centrino with 1.5GB RAM >> and when the SD card is added it makes a massive difference. >> > > Yea, I can see the massive difference it is making by your original post. > Your entire system becomes laggy, I admit, that's quite a massive > difference. > > Quote: >> The Z60m has the maximum 2GB RAM combination possible, and any extra >> help in a slot never to be used cant be bad. >> > > Actually yes it can be bad. > > Flash memory is by magnitudes slower than RAM. Adding it to a system as a > substitute for RAM helps with systems around 512 megs of RAM or so that'd > otherwise be constantly writing to the HDD instead. And even there, > improvements can't really be guaranteed. > > If you already have 1.5 gigs of RAM, you're looking at next to nothing to > gain by adding Flash memory. > > Even on systems where ready boost has been reported to actually give some > improvements, any improvements started to disappear at the 1 gig mark on > any benchmarks I've seen so far. > > FWIW I have 2GB of ram and I see a slight improvement in responsiveness with a 2GB SD card. Granted it's not like "night and day" but it's better than not using it. The laptop it's in has a card reader activity light, and I see it flicker often, so it's doing its thing. ONLY because I got the card on sale ($19.99) do I feel it was worth the effort. I'd feel foolish had I spent north of $40 for the card. YMMV. Dave
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09-20-2007	#14 (permalink)
rminnis82 n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% I think I need to put a few things straight... The X41 (1.5GHz 1.5GB RAM) improves with ReadyBoost. The Z60m (2.00Ghz and 2GB RAM) gets the CPU overload with ReadyBoost. BOTH machines have the maximum RAM configuration so adding more RAM is out of the question. Both machines respond well without the SD cards, but after the visible improvement in the X41 I did the same for the Z60m. Whether paging is bad or not is irrelevant, I just want to know why the Z60m gets CPU spikes when ReadyBoost is enabled...??? As ReadyBoost should surely cause the opposite!!
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09-20-2007	#15 (permalink)
dennis n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% <rminnis82@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1190325824.923634.176630@xxxxxx Quote: >I think I need to put a few things straight... > > The X41 (1.5GHz 1.5GB RAM) improves with ReadyBoost. > > The Z60m (2.00Ghz and 2GB RAM) gets the CPU overload with ReadyBoost. > > BOTH machines have the maximum RAM configuration so adding more RAM is > out of the question. Both machines respond well without the SD cards, > but after the visible improvement in the X41 I did the same for the > Z60m. > > Whether paging is bad or not is irrelevant, I just want to know why > the Z60m gets CPU spikes when ReadyBoost is enabled...??? As > ReadyBoost should surely cause the opposite!! > Do they both use the same SD card reader hardware and drivers?
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09-21-2007	#16 (permalink)
rminnis82 n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% Different SD card readers, but I have installed the latest drivers for both direct from the IBM website (both Vista drivers). When ReadyBoost is NOT enabled on the Z60m, the SD card works as it should. The issue I am having only occurs WHEN ReadyBoost is enabled on the SD card.
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09-21-2007	#17 (permalink)
Frank n/a posts	Re: SD Card using ReadyBoost increases CPU to 100% rminnis82@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: > Different SD card readers, but I have installed the latest drivers for > both direct from the IBM website (both Vista drivers). > > When ReadyBoost is NOT enabled on the Z60m, the SD card works as it > should. The issue I am having only occurs WHEN ReadyBoost is enabled > on the SD card. > Have you tried disabling ReadyBoost on that card while in that laptop, reformatting the card then enabling ReadyBoost? Also be sure and go into device manager and under Disk drives enable in properties on the card, "optimize for performance". Frank
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09-22-2007	#18 (permalink)
JohnRankin n/a posts	ReadyBoost - same issue - 100% of one CPU Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal. May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds like this problem is generic to Vista? I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any one of these may have been the trigger. Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz. EggHeadCafe - .NET Developer Portal of Choice http://www.eggheadcafe.com
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09-22-2007	#19 (permalink)
dennis n/a posts	Re: ReadyBoost - same issue - 100% of one CPU "JohnRankin" wrote in message news:2007922131146johnandrew@xxxxxx Quote: > Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply > found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was > ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal. > > May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds > like this problem is generic to Vista? > > I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any one > of these may have been the trigger. > > Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz. It sounds like its a problem with particular drivers and/or hardware to me. People report it working with SD cards on some machine but not on others.. Vista is common but the drivers and hardware are not. Someone needs to compile a list of not working hardware and drivers to see if there is a common problem.
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09-24-2007	#20 (permalink)
Spirit n/a posts	Re: ReadyBoost - same issue - 100% of one CPU My suspicion is A: the USB Drive has mixed memory, enough FAST so it passes the ReadyBoost test and then does not function properly. B. indeed there is a USB driver problem or conflict. Many cheap drives do used mixed memory. ReadyBoost Drives - Compatible http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/ http://www.activewin.com/reviews/har...adyboost.shtml ReadyBoost Incompatible http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/re...s=incompatible "dennis@xxxxxx" <dennis@xxxxxx-ass.net> wrote in message news:4D560326-7720-429E-88AF-FD3D1D660FC4@xxxxxx Quote: > > "JohnRankin" wrote in message news:2007922131146johnandrew@xxxxxx Quote: >> Same problem here, but I did not know the source was an SD card. I simply >> found one of my 2 CPUs running at 100% and the cause ultimately was >> ReadyBoost. Disabled it and things are again normal. >> >> May experiment by reenabling it, then inserting an SD card, but it sounds >> like this problem is generic to Vista? >> >> I also have an iPod, SmartPhone, SD cards, and CompactFlash cards. Any >> one of these may have been the trigger. >> >> Comptuer is HP Paviliion desktop d4790y wih Core 2 Duo / 2.4GHz. > > It sounds like its a problem with particular drivers and/or hardware to > me. > People report it working with SD cards on some machine but not on others.. > Vista is common but the drivers and hardware are not. > Someone needs to compile a list of not working hardware and drivers to see > if there is a common problem.
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