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| | Constanting losing DNS Hi, i have two machines running and wired into a Draytek Vigor 2100vg, One machine runs vista premium the other runs XP Home. The xp keeps its connection all the time, the vista machine loses it's connection anywhere between 5 minutes to five hours and using ipconfig/renew does not work i have to keep restarting the vista machine yet the xp machine is running fine and doesn't lose connection at all. Any advice please? |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Renegadechickenhead wrote: Quote: > Hi, i have two machines running and wired into a Draytek Vigor 2100vg, One > machine runs vista premium the other runs XP Home. The xp keeps its > connection all the time, the vista machine loses it's connection anywhere > between 5 minutes to five hours and using ipconfig/renew does not work i have > to keep restarting the vista machine yet the xp machine is running fine and > doesn't lose connection at all. Any advice please? 1. Contact Draytek for a definitive answer, firmware update if available, etc. 2. MS Internet Connectivity Evalution Tool - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/usi...d/default.mspx This tool checks the router to see if it is compatible with Vista. I've never used it so YMMV. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Tried that, brillant tool but everything is supported. At a loss really.....???? "Malke" wrote: Quote: > Renegadechickenhead wrote: Quote: > > Hi, i have two machines running and wired into a Draytek Vigor 2100vg, One > > machine runs vista premium the other runs XP Home. The xp keeps its > > connection all the time, the vista machine loses it's connection anywhere > > between 5 minutes to five hours and using ipconfig/renew does not work i have > > to keep restarting the vista machine yet the xp machine is running fine and > > doesn't lose connection at all. Any advice please? > That Draytek may not be completely Vista-compatible. Suggestions: > > 1. Contact Draytek for a definitive answer, firmware update if > available, etc. > > 2. MS Internet Connectivity Evalution Tool - > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/usi...d/default.mspx > This tool checks the router to see if it is compatible with Vista. I've > never used it so YMMV. > > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Renegadechickenhead wrote: Quote: > Tried that, brillant tool but everything is supported. At a loss > really.....???? support. There may be a firmware update. You can also try disabling IPv6 as per this MS Cable Guy article: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0506.mspx Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Contacted Dreytek and the router is compatable, and they remote accessed and the set up is fine, they do not understand why the vista machine drops connection whilst the xp doesn't, both wired in, nor do the 2 laptops drop connection. Whats interesting is that when i get the message, cannot connect to the dns server, the network settings are still showing an internet connection and the packets are coming in thick and fast, resetting the network connector does not work. i'm possibly thinking it's something to do with my on board LAN. Is it possible to add a LAN card and use that instead of the ethernet on board card? "Malke" wrote: Quote: > Renegadechickenhead wrote: Quote: > > Tried that, brillant tool but everything is supported. At a loss > > really.....???? > Even though the tool passed the Draytek, I would still call their tech > support. There may be a firmware update. You can also try disabling IPv6 > as per this MS Cable Guy article: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0506.mspx > > > Malke > -- > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > "Don't Panic!" > MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User > |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS dont know if it will work with you (as the scenario may differ), but i had a tough time solving this: -if you had activated internet connection sharing in vista and -if you already dont have the 2nd net connection then -you no longer have the tab "connection sharing" in the net adapter properties and the ics may interfere (it did for me) in your dns and internet connection overall when you have only 1 connection, but then you cannot deactivate it since there is no tab to show in the properties the symptoms were internet losing connection suddenly, no ip or domain would work in a browser, though any program already connected (e.g. a file transfer) would not stop, ipconfig /renew, resetting, etcetera would not work or only work for a little time in my case the connection would work for a couple of days straight though (my pc rarely is shut down) 3 routes: -plug in for a moment a 2nd net connection then deactivate ics through the primary connection properties -deactivate ics in the services (you can try if your problem comes from here just stopping it for a while) -surely theres a command line to deactivate ics for a connection, but i dont know which it is not sure if it happens with xp also so it may be applicable also |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Yeah that sounds like my problem, only it appears to have got worse over the last couple of days, previously used to online for a few days then disconnect, then after a few minutes i could reconnect, however last couple of days losing connection after about 10-20 mins and a restart is needed to obtain internet, which is a pain. Also like you say any open pages or ftp/filesharing would keep connection. i have disable ics on this pc as it doesn't really share it's connection as the other machine is wired in to the router and obtained it's own address. will see how it goes, "Jume" wrote: Quote: > dont know if it will work with you (as the scenario may differ), but i had a > tough time solving this: > > -if you had activated internet connection sharing in vista and > -if you already dont have the 2nd net connection then > -you no longer have the tab "connection sharing" in the net adapter > properties > > and the ics may interfere (it did for me) in your dns and internet > connection overall when you have only 1 connection, but then you cannot > deactivate it since there is no tab to show in the properties > > the symptoms were internet losing connection suddenly, no ip or domain would > work in a browser, though any program already connected (e.g. a file > transfer) would not stop, ipconfig /renew, resetting, etcetera would not > work or only work for a little time > in my case the connection would work for a couple of days straight though > (my pc rarely is shut down) > > 3 routes: > -plug in for a moment a 2nd net connection then deactivate ics through the > primary connection properties > -deactivate ics in the services (you can try if your problem comes from here > just stopping it for a while) > -surely theres a command line to deactivate ics for a connection, but i dont > know which it is > > not sure if it happens with xp also so it may be applicable also > > |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Renegadechickenhead wrote: Quote: > Contacted Dreytek and the router is compatable, and they remote accessed and > the set up is fine, they do not understand why the vista machine drops > connection whilst the xp doesn't, both wired in, nor do the 2 laptops drop > connection. Whats interesting is that when i get the message, cannot connect > to the dns server, the network settings are still showing an internet > connection and the packets are coming in thick and fast, resetting the > network connector does not work. i'm possibly thinking it's something to do > with my on board LAN. Is it possible to add a LAN card and use that instead > of the ethernet on board card? management of the NIC to off. Go to the System applet in Control Panel and get into Device Manager. Exactly how you do this will depend on whether you're using the Vista or Classic interface. You can also click on the Start Orb and type in the Search box: devmgmt.msc. Since you're going to make a change, when devmgmt appears above right-click on it and choose "run as Administrator". (I'm sorry not to be more precise about how to get to Device Manager but my Vista machine is inaccessible right now.) Once you are in Device Manager, find the entry for your NIC and double-click it to get its Properties. There should be a Power Management tab. Click on it and uncheck the box next to "allow Windows to turn off this device when not in use". If that doesn't work, there is no problem in purchasing a PCI NIC and installing it instead; they are very inexpensive. Just make sure to buy one that is Vista-compatible and turn off the power management on that one, too. Malke -- Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com "Don't Panic!" MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User |
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| | Re: Constanting losing DNS Just thought i'd thank you guys for your help, problem now sorted, it appeared to be the ics, no drops at all since changing that setting. Cheers. "Renegadechickenhead" wrote: Quote: > Yeah that sounds like my problem, only it appears to have got worse over the > last couple of days, previously used to online for a few days then > disconnect, then after a few minutes i could reconnect, however last couple > of days losing connection after about 10-20 mins and a restart is needed to > obtain internet, which is a pain. Also like you say any open pages or > ftp/filesharing would keep connection. i have disable ics on this pc as it > doesn't really share it's connection as the other machine is wired in to the > router and obtained it's own address. will see how it goes, > > "Jume" wrote: > Quote: > > dont know if it will work with you (as the scenario may differ), but i had a > > tough time solving this: > > > > -if you had activated internet connection sharing in vista and > > -if you already dont have the 2nd net connection then > > -you no longer have the tab "connection sharing" in the net adapter > > properties > > > > and the ics may interfere (it did for me) in your dns and internet > > connection overall when you have only 1 connection, but then you cannot > > deactivate it since there is no tab to show in the properties > > > > the symptoms were internet losing connection suddenly, no ip or domain would > > work in a browser, though any program already connected (e.g. a file > > transfer) would not stop, ipconfig /renew, resetting, etcetera would not > > work or only work for a little time > > in my case the connection would work for a couple of days straight though > > (my pc rarely is shut down) > > > > 3 routes: > > -plug in for a moment a 2nd net connection then deactivate ics through the > > primary connection properties > > -deactivate ics in the services (you can try if your problem comes from here > > just stopping it for a while) > > -surely theres a command line to deactivate ics for a connection, but i dont > > know which it is > > > > not sure if it happens with xp also so it may be applicable also > > > > |
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