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    Doug in Calif. Guest

    Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacceptab

    I was looking forward to my free Vista upgrade from HP (bought a new HP
    desktop late last year). The upgrade went well, but I soon discovered some
    unbelievable problems.

    USB ===========
    o With XP, my camera, flash drives, older HP printer, USB external hard
    drive -- they all worked perfectly without any extra drivers.
    o With Vista, NONE of them worked and I could not get them to work. That
    is absolutely unacceptable.

    Windows Explorer ===========
    o With XP, Windows Explorer wasn't perfect, but it showed the files in the
    selected folder and you could configure the toolbar buttons. The left-side
    task pane was exteremely useful. In file-select mode, the left-side Places
    bar was really useful (and configurable with UI Tweaks).
    o In Vista, ALL of the conveniences are gone. And it displays hundreds of
    items you didn't ask for. And there's no way to configure anything!

    User Account Control =============
    o In XP, if I set myself up as an Administrator, I can do whatever I want.
    o In Vista, even though I'm an Administrator, I still get the useless UAC
    popups (useless because you just click Okay, what's the point of that?). I
    turned this off, but it came back on. I can't figure out how to shut this
    thing up permanently.

    Vista is a step backwards. It makes my use of the operating system MORE
    difficult. And I'm not going out and buying all new cameras, printer, etc.,
    because Vista thinks the old drivers are poorly written or whatever.

    I spent 6 hours wiping my drive and re-installing XP. I'm happy now!


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    David Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacceptab

    Doug in Calif. wrote:

    > I was looking forward to my free Vista upgrade from HP (bought a new HP
    > desktop late last year). The upgrade went well, but I soon discovered some
    > unbelievable problems.
    >
    > USB ===========
    > o With XP, my camera, flash drives, older HP printer, USB external hard
    > drive -- they all worked perfectly without any extra drivers.
    > o With Vista, NONE of them worked and I could not get them to work. That
    > is absolutely unacceptable.
    >
    > Windows Explorer ===========
    > o With XP, Windows Explorer wasn't perfect, but it showed the files in the
    > selected folder and you could configure the toolbar buttons. The left-side
    > task pane was exteremely useful. In file-select mode, the left-side Places
    > bar was really useful (and configurable with UI Tweaks).
    > o In Vista, ALL of the conveniences are gone. And it displays hundreds of
    > items you didn't ask for. And there's no way to configure anything!
    >
    > User Account Control =============
    > o In XP, if I set myself up as an Administrator, I can do whatever I want.
    > o In Vista, even though I'm an Administrator, I still get the useless UAC
    > popups (useless because you just click Okay, what's the point of that?). I
    > turned this off, but it came back on. I can't figure out how to shut this
    > thing up permanently.
    >
    > Vista is a step backwards. It makes my use of the operating system MORE
    > difficult. And I'm not going out and buying all new cameras, printer, etc.,
    > because Vista thinks the old drivers are poorly written or whatever.
    >
    > I spent 6 hours wiping my drive and re-installing XP. I'm happy now!
    >
    >
    email bill gates with your thoughts. I agree Vista is not much of an
    upgrade (if ANY) from XP. Mostly it's a PITA.

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    JCS Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacceptab


    "Doug in Calif." <Doug in Calif.@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:0F7AC285-A542-465A-86FA-CAA49B814A5F@xxxxxx

    >I was looking forward to my free Vista upgrade from HP (bought a new HP
    > desktop late last year). The upgrade went well, but I soon discovered
    > some
    > unbelievable problems.
    >
    > USB ===========
    > o With XP, my camera, flash drives, older HP printer, USB external hard
    > drive -- they all worked perfectly without any extra drivers.
    > o With Vista, NONE of them worked and I could not get them to work. That
    > is absolutely unacceptable.
    What exactly did you try when attempting to get them to work? Did you go
    the manufacturers web sites to find Vista-compatible drivers?

    > Windows Explorer ===========
    > o With XP, Windows Explorer wasn't perfect, but it showed the files in
    > the
    > selected folder and you could configure the toolbar buttons. The
    > left-side
    > task pane was exteremely useful. In file-select mode, the left-side
    > Places
    > bar was really useful (and configurable with UI Tweaks).
    > o In Vista, ALL of the conveniences are gone. And it displays hundreds of
    > items you didn't ask for. And there's no way to configure anything!
    Granted, it's not AS convenient without XP's task pane (hopefully that'll
    come back in a future service pack), but it's hardly rocket science to
    navigate Windows Explorer in Vista.

    > User Account Control =============
    > o In XP, if I set myself up as an Administrator, I can do whatever I want.
    > o In Vista, even though I'm an Administrator, I still get the useless UAC
    > popups (useless because you just click Okay, what's the point of that?).
    > I
    > turned this off, but it came back on. I can't figure out how to shut this
    > thing up permanently.
    The Administrator account is disabled by default in a Vista installation.
    There are countless resources available that tell how to enable it if you
    look. Personally I think this is a good thing, as most users always run
    their computers with administrator priveleges during their every day use,
    and that is a very bad idea, no matter how knowledgable they think they may
    be.

    > Vista is a step backwards. It makes my use of the operating system MORE
    > difficult. And I'm not going out and buying all new cameras, printer,
    > etc.,
    > because Vista thinks the old drivers are poorly written or whatever.
    >
    > I spent 6 hours wiping my drive and re-installing XP. I'm happy now!
    >
    I have nothing against XP. If it works for you then use it. I just
    remember hearing the same complaints (namely driver/software compatibility
    issues) when XP was released. I guess in another 6 years when the new OS
    comes out, people will start singing Vista's praises.


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    CB Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacce

    Doug in Calif,

    Microsoft cannot fix the "deficiencies" of the various third party vendors.
    If the manufacturers of your products choose not to support the Vista OS that
    is their decision to make. I would direct my aggravations and frustrations
    toward the responsible parties.

    Most companies who have not or will not provide Vista drivers for their
    products do it for one of two reasons: l. The product is outdated and not
    worth the expense of updating or 2. they don't care that their customers
    cannot use their product because they want you to purchase a newer one, when
    available, that is Vista compatible.

    Different people have different personal preferences. Some people must stay
    with XP because of the programs they are using. To move to Vista would be
    unproductive or impossible. If you like the way XP worked you should go back
    to XP. I think you will be much happier. I am not being sarcastic. I just
    think you will be happier and more satisfied. I would certainly respect your
    decision to do so.

    It is possible that Microsoft, in the future, will give you the option of
    using the XP "Classic" Explorer within Vista. I'm sure there are many changes
    coming.

    I prefer Vista. I also think Vista is superior to XP, and of course, much
    more secure. If you simply want to click OK every time you get a UAC prompt
    you are inviting trouble. It is not only a warning tool, it is a learning
    tool since it alerts you that your actions can have consequences. You can
    always turn it off if you wish but I wouldn't advise it. I'm glad it doesn't
    bother you that with XP various programs and malware can execute commands
    without your knowledge. Again, I am not being sarcastic.

    I am not defending Microsoft in any way. I think Microsoft is monopolistic
    and a corporate bully. At times, it seems that Microsoft simply doesn't
    listen to its customer base. However, I respect the intelligence and
    foresight of their software engineers and I like their products.

    I hope you resolve your problems one way or another. I certainly wouldn't
    use Vista if you do not like it.

    Have a nice day.

    C.B.

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    Scotty Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacce



    "CB" wrote:

    > Doug in Calif,
    >
    > Microsoft cannot fix the "deficiencies" of the various third party vendors.
    > If the manufacturers of your products choose not to support the Vista OS that
    > is their decision to make. I would direct my aggravations and frustrations
    > toward the responsible parties.
    >

    I Agree with CB to a point. the point of thrid party vendors, however,
    whenwe are purcahsing equipment off the shelf and have expectations the
    equipment will work... then that is another matter for MS to address.

    My 2 flash drives have crashed on VISTA.. even with so called drivers from
    their manufacturers ( SanDisk and Lexar).

    Vista may be "better" but the measurement for better is not linear! We the
    consumers are still being "bullied". I should have bought a Mac.... But that
    is for next time!

    For now I cannot move data between work and home on the flash drives nor my
    SD card as my Micromate (which was working for a while) has now crashed too!.

    If anyone has any ideas on how to resuscitate at least my MicroMate
    (SanDisk) please let me know... the SD folks swear it should work.. It must
    be my OS.

    <smile> catch 22 <smile> catch 22 <smile> etc....

    Cheers
    Scotty

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    jaysooon Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacceptab

    On Sep 25, 10:12 pm, "JCS" <sander...@xxxxxx> wrote:

    > "Doug in Calif." <Doug in Cal...@xxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:0F7AC285-A542-465A-86FA-CAA49B814A5F@xxxxxx
    >

    > >I was looking forward to my freeVistaupgrade from HP (bought a new HP
    > > desktop late last year). The upgrade went well, but I soon discovered
    > > some
    > > unbelievable problems.
    >

    > > USB ===========
    > > o With XP, my camera, flash drives, older HP printer, USB external hard
    > > drive -- they all worked perfectly without any extra drivers.
    > > o WithVista, NONE of them worked and I could not get them to work. That
    > > is absolutely unacceptable.
    >
    > What exactly did you try when attempting to get them to work? Did you go
    > the manufacturers web sites to findVista-compatible drivers?
    >

    > > Windows Explorer ===========
    > > o With XP, Windows Explorer wasn't perfect, but it showed the files in
    > > the
    > > selected folder and you could configure the toolbar buttons. The
    > > left-side
    > > task pane was exteremely useful. In file-select mode, the left-side
    > > Places
    > > bar was really useful (and configurable with UI Tweaks).
    > > o InVista, ALL of the conveniences are gone. And it displays hundreds of
    > > items you didn't ask for. And there's no way to configure anything!
    >
    > Granted, it's not AS convenient without XP's task pane (hopefully that'll
    > come back in a future service pack), but it's hardly rocket science to
    > navigate Windows Explorer inVista.
    >

    > > User Account Control =============
    > > o In XP, if I set myself up as an Administrator, I can do whatever I want.
    > > o InVista, even though I'm an Administrator, I still get the useless UAC
    > > popups (useless because you just click Okay, what's the point of that?).
    > > I
    > > turned this off, but it came back on. I can't figure out how to shut this
    > > thing up permanently.
    >
    > The Administrator account is disabled by default in aVistainstallation.
    > There are countless resources available that tell how to enable it if you
    > look. Personally I think this is a good thing, as most users always run
    > their computers with administrator priveleges during their every day use,
    > and that is a very bad idea, no matter how knowledgable they think they may
    > be.
    >

    > >Vistais a step backwards. It makes my use of the operating system MORE
    > > difficult. And I'm not going out and buying all new cameras, printer,
    > > etc.,
    > > becauseVistathinks the old drivers are poorly written or whatever.
    >

    > > I spent 6 hourswipingmy drive and re-installing XP. I'm happy now!
    >
    > I have nothing against XP. If it works for you then use it. I just
    > remember hearing the same complaints (namely driver/software compatibility
    > issues) when XP was released. I guess in another 6 years when the new OS
    > comes out, people will start singingVista'spraises.
    Can you please tell me how you wiped your Vista machine. I've tried
    booting from an XP cd but it doesn't recognize the hard drive. In
    other words it doesn't show any partitions to install XP on.


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    Doug in Calif. Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unaccept

    Used the HP CD that I created under XP when I got the PC.

    You could boot off a rescue CD of some kind and reformat the partition.

    > Can you please tell me how you wiped your Vista machine. I've tried
    > booting from an XP cd but it doesn't recognize the hard drive. In
    > other words it doesn't show any partitions to install XP on.
    >
    >

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    Doug in Calif. Guest

    Re: Vista: peripherals don't work and I can't confugre -- unacce



    "CB" wrote:

    Thanks for your comments.

    I never installed any drivers for the cameras, flash drivers, etc.. They
    just worked in XP. In Vista they don't work So that means, I guess, that MS
    removed the drivers they had shipped with XP. If there was good reason,
    like we don't support 16-bit drivers anymore, or all those drivers were
    insecure, or whatever, I might understand. But all I see is they're gone in
    Vista, with no satisfactory explanation (actually no explanation at all).

    I would have appreciated some notice from MS, like: "With Vista, most
    likely all your current USB equipment will no longer work and their
    manufacturers will not help you. You should throw the USB items away and buy
    all new USB stuff."

    >
    > I am not defending Microsoft in any way. I think Microsoft is monopolistic
    > and a corporate bully. At times, it seems that Microsoft simply doesn't
    > listen to its customer base. However, I respect the intelligence and
    > foresight of their software engineers and I like their products.
    >
    > I hope you resolve your problems one way or another. I certainly wouldn't
    > use Vista if you do not like it.
    >
    > Have a nice day.
    >
    > C.B.

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