Vista - Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista.

09-27-2007

"Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>> It really comes down to who is sitting behind the wheel and is doing the
>> driving.

>
> I completely disagree. If it doesn't work, then it doesn't work.
>
> I'm not some little old lady trying to look up a knitting web site. I may
> not be a major corporation IT tech or anything. But I have set up my own
> wireless system to run 4 separate computers. And with Windows XP, every
> system runs perfectly. All three laptops (one of which I am on right now)
> and my media server desktop.
>
> This is CLEARLY a software issue. Something in Windows Vista is not
> allowing this
> Wireless card to function properly. I took an old copy of XP and loaded
> it
> up (Thank God it's a new computer with none of my stuff on it) and it
> works
> beautifully on the same router with none of the above changes made. Why
> would XP work fine, but Vista doesn't? Well, the answer isn't hardware...
> it's software, seeing as how that's the only thing that has changed.
>
> My problem is, my computer came with Vista, and I want to use Vista. But
> once again, it seems as if I am going to have to wait for Vista SP1.
>
> Well, now that my ranting is done... Has anyone had this ame problem, and
> found a fix for it?

MS didn't make the driver for the card nor did MS make the firmware for the
router, since you're on a software thing. And Stateful Packet Inspection
being used in a FW solution I doubt is the problem either.

Did you even try to call the manufacture of either the card or the router
concerning the issue? Did you post to a wireless NG concerning the issue?
It's just a thought.

09-27-2007

> If you can borrow a different brand/model of wireless router, try it.

Quote:

> If it works, you can chalk it up to hardware compatibility.
> If not, you need to get back with Dell.

Well, see that's the whole problem. My wireless card gets a full signal
strength from the router, it just connects intermittantly. And when it does
connect, I sometimes get internet, and sometimes don't. So if I am getting a
full signal strength, it shouldn't be a problem with the card.

However, I did take your advice, and threw my old Linksys card in. GLORY
GLORY HALLELUJAH! First off, Linksys has an enormous antenna, as compared to
that little Asus POS. Literally, the Linksys antenna was three times larger.

So, this problem has been solved, and it was a hardware issue. It was the
crappy wireless card that came with my new Dell. I am going to have a
hey-day phone call to them later on tonight.

Thanks for the help guys!

09-27-2007

Since you know XP works well, check all the NIC settings as far as b or g
transmission settings, IV4 and IV6 settings etc. Possibly you'll notice a
difference in how Vista and XP set up the NIC. Also in Vista, disable all
the NIC protocols except IV4 and see if that helps. If it does, enable the
others one at a time until you have issues again. I can't get Vista to allow
me a static IP on my wireless NIC so there may be software issues too.
Good luck.

"Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:860D7F77-3609-462E-91BD-CA51E24BFBE0@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I have 5 computers at home, all of which are running XP, excepy my new
> bad-boy which runs Vista. 3 Wi-Fi Enabled Laptops, and 1 Desktop with a
> Linksys Wireless Adapter PCI.
>
> All of these computers connect to my Wireless Router (WRT54G Linksys) no
> problems at all, and have complete access to internet.
>
> Enter my new Vista machine. A Dell Inspiron 531 (Desktop) This machine
> has
> a Broadcom Wireless Network Adapter PCI card inside, and Vista Pre-Loaded.
> Now, the wireless card can see the network, with excellent signal
> strength.
> However, I cannot connect to it. I get "Windows cannot connect to
> 'netname'". After I manually assigned an IP address to my computer, I get
> limited connections to my router, and sometimes I can get internet. But
> when
> I do get internet, I get very bad internet. It's intermittant, and very
> slow.
>
> I spent 3 1/2 hours with Dell tech support walking me through changing my
> router settings to no avail. I have tried adding MAC addresses, changing
> broadcast channels, adding IP addresses, opening ports, Updating Firmware
> on
> the router, even downloading new drivers for the Wireless Card (On the XP
> Machine, transferred to the Vista machine with a JumpDrive). NOTHING
> WORKS.
>
> I have at this point determined that it has to be Vista, or more directly,
> a
> problem with Vista's Wireless Connectivity.
>
> Vista is an amazing visual OS for all media access, and I personally
> really
> like it. Functionality for the wireless adapter has quite a bit to be
> desired however.
>
> I hope I have provided enough information. If anyone out there is having
> similiar issues, Please let me know how you have solved it.

09-27-2007

One other thing to look at is whether or not you have desktop computer right
next to the wireless router, as this can affect some wireless cards.
"John" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ObNXLJTAIHA.2268@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Since you know XP works well, check all the NIC settings as far as b or g
> transmission settings, IV4 and IV6 settings etc. Possibly you'll notice a
> difference in how Vista and XP set up the NIC. Also in Vista, disable all
> the NIC protocols except IV4 and see if that helps. If it does, enable the
> others one at a time until you have issues again. I can't get Vista to
> allow me a static IP on my wireless NIC so there may be software issues
> too.
> Good luck.
>
> "Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:860D7F77-3609-462E-91BD-CA51E24BFBE0@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I have 5 computers at home, all of which are running XP, excepy my new
>> bad-boy which runs Vista. 3 Wi-Fi Enabled Laptops, and 1 Desktop with a
>> Linksys Wireless Adapter PCI.
>>
>> All of these computers connect to my Wireless Router (WRT54G Linksys) no
>> problems at all, and have complete access to internet.
>>
>> Enter my new Vista machine. A Dell Inspiron 531 (Desktop) This machine
>> has
>> a Broadcom Wireless Network Adapter PCI card inside, and Vista
>> Pre-Loaded.
>> Now, the wireless card can see the network, with excellent signal
>> strength.
>> However, I cannot connect to it. I get "Windows cannot connect to
>> 'netname'". After I manually assigned an IP address to my computer, I
>> get
>> limited connections to my router, and sometimes I can get internet. But
>> when
>> I do get internet, I get very bad internet. It's intermittant, and very
>> slow.
>>
>> I spent 3 1/2 hours with Dell tech support walking me through changing my
>> router settings to no avail. I have tried adding MAC addresses, changing
>> broadcast channels, adding IP addresses, opening ports, Updating Firmware
>> on
>> the router, even downloading new drivers for the Wireless Card (On the XP
>> Machine, transferred to the Vista machine with a JumpDrive). NOTHING
>> WORKS.
>>
>> I have at this point determined that it has to be Vista, or more
>> directly, a
>> problem with Vista's Wireless Connectivity.
>>
>> Vista is an amazing visual OS for all media access, and I personally
>> really
>> like it. Functionality for the wireless adapter has quite a bit to be
>> desired however.
>>
>> I hope I have provided enough information. If anyone out there is having
>> similiar issues, Please let me know how you have solved it.

>
>

09-27-2007

"Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:56E30DA9-798D-4BFD-A408-75C5C52709A7@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> If you can borrow a different brand/model of wireless router, try it.
>> If it works, you can chalk it up to hardware compatibility.
>> If not, you need to get back with Dell.

>
> Well, see that's the whole problem. My wireless card gets a full signal
> strength from the router, it just connects intermittantly. And when it
> does
> connect, I sometimes get internet, and sometimes don't. So if I am
> getting a
> full signal strength, it shouldn't be a problem with the card.
>
> However, I did take your advice, and threw my old Linksys card in. GLORY
> GLORY HALLELUJAH! First off, Linksys has an enormous antenna, as compared
> to
> that little Asus POS. Literally, the Linksys antenna was three times
> larger.
>
>
> So, this problem has been solved, and it was a hardware issue. It was the
> crappy wireless card that came with my new Dell. I am going to have a
> hey-day phone call to them later on tonight.
>
> Thanks for the help guys!

Nothing against you personally, but I suspect that a lot of problems people
are having with Vista are due to who is sitting behind the wheel and is
doing the driving.

09-28-2007

The culprit was an Asus WR138G v2 Wireless Adapter. With a tiny little
tadger of an antenna. This thing couldn't make a connection on Chuck
Woolery's computer (obscure 90's reference).

I literally sat my desktop About 10 feet away from the wireless router, with
NOTHING inbetween the two. My connection was still intermittant. This
wireless card sucks harder than airlock decompression.

I am beginning to wonder if all of these people who are having problems with
thier Wireless adapters and Vista, just have really bad wireless cards.

09-27-2007	#11
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. "Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7030DC7F-C9B4-4F6F-809A-EFEA080077D4@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> It really comes down to who is sitting behind the wheel and is doing the >> driving. > > I completely disagree. If it doesn't work, then it doesn't work. > > I'm not some little old lady trying to look up a knitting web site. I may > not be a major corporation IT tech or anything. But I have set up my own > wireless system to run 4 separate computers. And with Windows XP, every > system runs perfectly. All three laptops (one of which I am on right now) > and my media server desktop. > > This is CLEARLY a software issue. Something in Windows Vista is not > allowing this > Wireless card to function properly. I took an old copy of XP and loaded > it > up (Thank God it's a new computer with none of my stuff on it) and it > works > beautifully on the same router with none of the above changes made. Why > would XP work fine, but Vista doesn't? Well, the answer isn't hardware... > it's software, seeing as how that's the only thing that has changed. > > My problem is, my computer came with Vista, and I want to use Vista. But > once again, it seems as if I am going to have to wait for Vista SP1. > > Well, now that my ranting is done... Has anyone had this ame problem, and > found a fix for it? MS didn't make the driver for the card nor did MS make the firmware for the router, since you're on a software thing. And Stateful Packet Inspection being used in a FW solution I doubt is the problem either. Did you even try to call the manufacture of either the card or the router concerning the issue? Did you post to a wireless NG concerning the issue? It's just a thought.
My System Specs

09-27-2007	#12
Shibblet n/a posts	Re: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. > If you can borrow a different brand/model of wireless router, try it. Quote: > If it works, you can chalk it up to hardware compatibility. > If not, you need to get back with Dell. Well, see that's the whole problem. My wireless card gets a full signal strength from the router, it just connects intermittantly. And when it does connect, I sometimes get internet, and sometimes don't. So if I am getting a full signal strength, it shouldn't be a problem with the card. However, I did take your advice, and threw my old Linksys card in. GLORY GLORY HALLELUJAH! First off, Linksys has an enormous antenna, as compared to that little Asus POS. Literally, the Linksys antenna was three times larger. So, this problem has been solved, and it was a hardware issue. It was the crappy wireless card that came with my new Dell. I am going to have a hey-day phone call to them later on tonight. Thanks for the help guys!
My System Specs

09-27-2007	#13
John n/a posts	Re: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. Since you know XP works well, check all the NIC settings as far as b or g transmission settings, IV4 and IV6 settings etc. Possibly you'll notice a difference in how Vista and XP set up the NIC. Also in Vista, disable all the NIC protocols except IV4 and see if that helps. If it does, enable the others one at a time until you have issues again. I can't get Vista to allow me a static IP on my wireless NIC so there may be software issues too. Good luck. "Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:860D7F77-3609-462E-91BD-CA51E24BFBE0@xxxxxx Quote: >I have 5 computers at home, all of which are running XP, excepy my new > bad-boy which runs Vista. 3 Wi-Fi Enabled Laptops, and 1 Desktop with a > Linksys Wireless Adapter PCI. > > All of these computers connect to my Wireless Router (WRT54G Linksys) no > problems at all, and have complete access to internet. > > Enter my new Vista machine. A Dell Inspiron 531 (Desktop) This machine > has > a Broadcom Wireless Network Adapter PCI card inside, and Vista Pre-Loaded. > Now, the wireless card can see the network, with excellent signal > strength. > However, I cannot connect to it. I get "Windows cannot connect to > 'netname'". After I manually assigned an IP address to my computer, I get > limited connections to my router, and sometimes I can get internet. But > when > I do get internet, I get very bad internet. It's intermittant, and very > slow. > > I spent 3 1/2 hours with Dell tech support walking me through changing my > router settings to no avail. I have tried adding MAC addresses, changing > broadcast channels, adding IP addresses, opening ports, Updating Firmware > on > the router, even downloading new drivers for the Wireless Card (On the XP > Machine, transferred to the Vista machine with a JumpDrive). NOTHING > WORKS. > > I have at this point determined that it has to be Vista, or more directly, > a > problem with Vista's Wireless Connectivity. > > Vista is an amazing visual OS for all media access, and I personally > really > like it. Functionality for the wireless adapter has quite a bit to be > desired however. > > I hope I have provided enough information. If anyone out there is having > similiar issues, Please let me know how you have solved it.
My System Specs

09-27-2007	#14
John Lee Brown n/a posts	Re: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. One other thing to look at is whether or not you have desktop computer right next to the wireless router, as this can affect some wireless cards. "John" <me@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ObNXLJTAIHA.2268@xxxxxx Quote: > Since you know XP works well, check all the NIC settings as far as b or g > transmission settings, IV4 and IV6 settings etc. Possibly you'll notice a > difference in how Vista and XP set up the NIC. Also in Vista, disable all > the NIC protocols except IV4 and see if that helps. If it does, enable the > others one at a time until you have issues again. I can't get Vista to > allow me a static IP on my wireless NIC so there may be software issues > too. > Good luck. > > "Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:860D7F77-3609-462E-91BD-CA51E24BFBE0@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have 5 computers at home, all of which are running XP, excepy my new >> bad-boy which runs Vista. 3 Wi-Fi Enabled Laptops, and 1 Desktop with a >> Linksys Wireless Adapter PCI. >> >> All of these computers connect to my Wireless Router (WRT54G Linksys) no >> problems at all, and have complete access to internet. >> >> Enter my new Vista machine. A Dell Inspiron 531 (Desktop) This machine >> has >> a Broadcom Wireless Network Adapter PCI card inside, and Vista >> Pre-Loaded. >> Now, the wireless card can see the network, with excellent signal >> strength. >> However, I cannot connect to it. I get "Windows cannot connect to >> 'netname'". After I manually assigned an IP address to my computer, I >> get >> limited connections to my router, and sometimes I can get internet. But >> when >> I do get internet, I get very bad internet. It's intermittant, and very >> slow. >> >> I spent 3 1/2 hours with Dell tech support walking me through changing my >> router settings to no avail. I have tried adding MAC addresses, changing >> broadcast channels, adding IP addresses, opening ports, Updating Firmware >> on >> the router, even downloading new drivers for the Wireless Card (On the XP >> Machine, transferred to the Vista machine with a JumpDrive). NOTHING >> WORKS. >> >> I have at this point determined that it has to be Vista, or more >> directly, a >> problem with Vista's Wireless Connectivity. >> >> Vista is an amazing visual OS for all media access, and I personally >> really >> like it. Functionality for the wireless adapter has quite a bit to be >> desired however. >> >> I hope I have provided enough information. If anyone out there is having >> similiar issues, Please let me know how you have solved it. > >
My System Specs

09-27-2007	#15
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. "Shibblet" <Shibblet@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:56E30DA9-798D-4BFD-A408-75C5C52709A7@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> If you can borrow a different brand/model of wireless router, try it. >> If it works, you can chalk it up to hardware compatibility. >> If not, you need to get back with Dell. > > Well, see that's the whole problem. My wireless card gets a full signal > strength from the router, it just connects intermittantly. And when it > does > connect, I sometimes get internet, and sometimes don't. So if I am > getting a > full signal strength, it shouldn't be a problem with the card. > > However, I did take your advice, and threw my old Linksys card in. GLORY > GLORY HALLELUJAH! First off, Linksys has an enormous antenna, as compared > to > that little Asus POS. Literally, the Linksys antenna was three times > larger. > > > So, this problem has been solved, and it was a hardware issue. It was the > crappy wireless card that came with my new Dell. I am going to have a > hey-day phone call to them later on tonight. > > Thanks for the help guys! Nothing against you personally, but I suspect that a lot of problems people are having with Vista are due to who is sitting behind the wheel and is doing the driving.
My System Specs

09-28-2007	#16
Shibblet n/a posts	RE: Cannot connect to my wireless router with Vista. The culprit was an Asus WR138G v2 Wireless Adapter. With a tiny little tadger of an antenna. This thing couldn't make a connection on Chuck Woolery's computer (obscure 90's reference). I literally sat my desktop About 10 feet away from the wireless router, with NOTHING inbetween the two. My connection was still intermittant. This wireless card sucks harder than airlock decompression. I am beginning to wonder if all of these people who are having problems with thier Wireless adapters and Vista, just have really bad wireless cards.
My System Specs

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