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Old 10-02-2007   #1 (permalink)
Ric


 
 

How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

Is it possible to turn off the ridiculous annoyance that stops me deleting
folders from my own computer? I am fed up with having to reboot in safe mode
to delete folders. This is such a stupid idea by Microsoft.

Yes, I have already turned off that stupid UAC crap (or whatever it was
called).


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #2 (permalink)
William


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

Ric wrote:
Quote:

> Is it possible to turn off the ridiculous annoyance that stops me
> deleting folders from my own computer? I am fed up with having to reboot
> in safe mode to delete folders. This is such a stupid idea by Microsoft.
>
> Yes, I have already turned off that stupid UAC crap (or whatever it was
> called).
>

It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when you disable
UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless you go into
safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs to be
enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also assume
this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC enabled. I
have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would
happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #3 (permalink)
Saucy


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

"William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
Quote:

>< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when you
>disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless you go
>into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs to be
>enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also assume this
>to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC enabled. I have not
>tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I
>tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
>guess
>
>
> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>
> Bill

Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete, copy,
move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #4 (permalink)
William


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

Saucy wrote:
Quote:

> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
>> you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period!
>> Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said .
>> UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and
>> folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs were
>> installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing programs with
>> UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to delete a file
>> relative to that install. Still a learning process I guess
>>
>>
>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
> copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>
> Saucy

I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
experience

Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #5 (permalink)
William


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

Saucy wrote:
Quote:

> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e5B7LtSBIHA.1208@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Saucy wrote:
Quote:

>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
>>>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
>>>> when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
>>>> period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
>>>> you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
>>>> files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs
>>>> were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing
>>>> programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to
>>>> delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
>>>> guess
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
>>> [delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>>>
>>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
>> once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and
>> folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again.
>> Thats my experience
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
> file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.
>
> Saucy

Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #6 (permalink)
Saucy


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

"William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e5B7LtSBIHA.1208@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Saucy wrote:
Quote:

>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
>>> you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless
>>> you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs
>>> to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also
>>> assume this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC
>>> enabled. I have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see
>>> what would happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install.
>>> Still a learning process I guess
>>>
>>>
>>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
>> copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>>
>> Saucy
>
>
> I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
> once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
> and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
> experience
>
> Bill

Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a file(s) or
a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #7 (permalink)
Saucy


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

"William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uFCzs3SBIHA.4732@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Saucy wrote:
Quote:

>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e5B7LtSBIHA.1208@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
>>>>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
>>>>> you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period!
>>>>> Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said .
>>>>> UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and
>>>>> folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs were
>>>>> installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing programs with
>>>>> UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to delete a file
>>>>> relative to that install. Still a learning process I guess
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
>>>> copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>>
>>> I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
>>> once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
>>> and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
>>> experience
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a file(s)
>> or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.
>>
>> Saucy
>
>
> Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
> I assume you have tried it?
> Bill

Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder manipulation.
You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular folder you tried
to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that appear like shortcuts
or folders that don't delete. They are there to provide backward
compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded strings to system folders.
But otherwise you should be able to create, delete etc. files and folder
with UAC either ON or OFF.

[[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Saucy

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #8 (permalink)
William


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

Saucy wrote:
Quote:

> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uFCzs3SBIHA.4732@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Saucy wrote:
Quote:

>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e5B7LtSBIHA.1208@xxxxxx
>>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
>>>>>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
>>>>>> when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
>>>>>> period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
>>>>>> you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
>>>>>> files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the
>>>>>> programs were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried
>>>>>> installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if
>>>>>> I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
>>>>>> learning process I guess
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
>>>>> [delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was
>>>> impossible once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different
>>>> files and folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete
>>>> again. Thats my experience
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>> Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
>>> file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.
>>>
>>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
>> I assume you have tried it?
>> Bill
>
>
> Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder
> manipulation. You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular
> folder you tried to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that
> appear like shortcuts or folders that don't delete. They are there to
> provide backward compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded
> strings to system folders. But otherwise you should be able to create,
> delete etc. files and folder with UAC either ON or OFF.
>
> [[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point
>
> Saucy
It was a music media player that I had installed a week or so ago and
was trying to upgrade it. During the upgrade process I kept getting
write permission need to replace certain files. After pulling my hair
out with resetting all user and admin rights and ownership, nothing
would work. So I decided I would uninstall the program and then do a
fresh install. After the uninstall some files were left back which I
tried to manually delete. No luck. Would not do it. No matter where I
moved the files. I turned on back UAC and it worked. Hence my reply

I can try again to see if it was only that program or to what extent
other files may be affected by UAC

If its related to the junction point issue how can I tell with regard to
that program. Also the program is a vista release so backward
compatibility does not appear or should not be an issue

Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #9 (permalink)
Dave


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

You probably need to take ownership of some folders, and change permissions.

http://www.google.com/search?q=vista...GGL_en_____215

http://blogs.msdn.com/tims/archive/2...deletable.aspx



"Ric" <fraybentos@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9818CF88-E3B6-4584-95B6-F867CCBEAF6F@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is it possible to turn off the ridiculous annoyance that stops me deleting
> folders from my own computer? I am fed up with having to reboot in safe
> mode to delete folders. This is such a stupid idea by Microsoft.
>
> Yes, I have already turned off that stupid UAC crap (or whatever it was
> called).
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-02-2007   #10 (permalink)
Saucy


 
 

Re: How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

"William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uSCD7aTBIHA.4200@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Saucy wrote:
Quote:

>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uFCzs3SBIHA.4732@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e5B7LtSBIHA.1208@xxxxxx
>>>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>>>> "William" <dontknow@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e$aTkTSBIHA.5360@xxxxxx
>>>>>>> < chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
>>>>>>> when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
>>>>>>> period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
>>>>>>> you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
>>>>>>> files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs
>>>>>>> were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing
>>>>>>> programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to
>>>>>>> delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
>>>>>>> guess
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
>>>>>> [delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saucy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
>>>>> once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and
>>>>> folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again.
>>>>> Thats my experience
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
>>>> file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>
>>>
>>> Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
>>> I assume you have tried it?
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder manipulation.
>> You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular folder you
>> tried to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that appear like
>> shortcuts or folders that don't delete. They are there to provide
>> backward compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded strings to
>> system folders. But otherwise you should be able to create, delete etc.
>> files and folder with UAC either ON or OFF.
>>
>> [[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point
>>
>> Saucy
>
> It was a music media player that I had installed a week or so ago and was
> trying to upgrade it. During the upgrade process I kept getting write
> permission need to replace certain files. After pulling my hair out with
> resetting all user and admin rights and ownership, nothing would work. So
> I decided I would uninstall the program and then do a fresh install. After
> the uninstall some files were left back which I tried to manually delete.
> No luck. Would not do it. No matter where I moved the files. I turned on
> back UAC and it worked. Hence my reply
>
> I can try again to see if it was only that program or to what extent other
> files may be affected by UAC
>
> If its related to the junction point issue how can I tell with regard to
> that program. Also the program is a vista release so backward
> compatibility does not appear or should not be an issue
>
> Bill

Hi, yeah, it's probably a file access issue .. look at Dave's reply for
links on resolving such a thing. Some of these issues will evaporate with
the upcoming SP1, but that's still a few months away.

Saucy

Saucy

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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