Vista - help required creating partition using PM8

one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install Vista
and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?

T5 back again:

1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
like what you want to do.
2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or more
if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM or Disk
Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and you're
going to want to install the next build you can get later (probably RC1
sometime in August).
4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want to
resize.
4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
the option to install Vista on the new partition.

CH




"T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install Vista
> and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>

I meant to mention:

You don't have to worry about NTFS vs. FAT in Vista; Vista only uses NTFS
and it's a different NTFS than in XP. Just click the first option as I said
Make a New Partition--use the wizard and follow the directions then to run
setup within XP and direct to that partition.

CH


"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
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> T5 back again:
>
> 1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
> like what you want to do.
> 2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
> 3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or more
> if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM or Disk
> Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and you're
> going to want to install the next build you can get later (probably RC1
> sometime in August).
> 4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
> time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want to
> resize.
> 4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
> boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
> the option to install Vista on the new partition.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uivISh$nGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
>> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install
>> Vista and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>>
>
>

Choose Win XP/NT as the new O/S, NTFS, and PRIMARY not logical as the type
of partition. Make sure BootMagic is set to disabled, follow the
instructions and the computer will want to reboot. Reboot. while PM is
making the changes, before you see the welcome screen, insert the Vista dvd.
(NOT before this). When PM is finished making the changes, it will reboot
the computer and your Vista installation will begin. When you have Vista
all set up, powerdown, insert your PM disc, select "1" and then "1" again,
unhide all the partition and set the XP partition back to the active
partition. Boot into XP, and then set up BootMagic to recognize both O/s's.

And PRESTO, Bob's your uncle...
"T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install Vista
> and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>

So don't waste the time formatting the partition with PM, right?


"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
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>I meant to mention:
>
> You don't have to worry about NTFS vs. FAT in Vista; Vista only uses NTFS
> and it's a different NTFS than in XP. Just click the first option as I
> said Make a New Partition--use the wizard and follow the directions then
> to run setup within XP and direct to that partition.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:OAvlym$nGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> T5 back again:
>>
>> 1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
>> like what you want to do.
>> 2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
>> 3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or
>> more if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM
>> or Disk Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and
>> you're going to want to install the next build you can get later
>> (probably RC1 sometime in August).
>> 4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
>> time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want
>> to resize.
>> 4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
>> boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
>> the option to install Vista on the new partition.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uivISh$nGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
>>> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install
>>> Vista and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 06:13:57 -0400, "Mark D. VandenBerg"
<mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Choose Win XP/NT as the new O/S, NTFS, and PRIMARY not logical as the type
>of partition. <snip>

I installed Vista as a dual boot. It resides on a logical partition
on a 2nd internal HDD. Prior to my install, Andre responded to my
request for a dual-boot install primer, in part, by recommending a
logical partition, and I obviously followed that advise.

My question is why do most seem to recommend, as you do Mark, a
primary partition? Both my old XP and new Vista 5384 installs seem to
work fine. That is, outside of the expected odd lock-up, crash, or
feature not working, I haven't noted any particularly strange behavior
from the beta. Happily I guess, its all been a rather uneventful
experience on the negative side.

Balanced against what I read here about install woes, driver issues
(only my Microtek 5900 scanner will not run) and general stability, my
experience seems like,...well, a walk in the park by comparison. New
beta tester's beginner's luck? Maybe, huh?

Chad, my man, you are my guardian angel, you didn't leave me (even though we
have had some rough times). Now before I go any further into a million post
thread........................ and I will not post again until the masses
have thier say, (I believe you Chad I do) but is this info correct? I do get
confused when others interject with info that is different to the first
advice
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
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> T5 back again:
>
> 1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
> like what you want to do.
> 2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
> 3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or more
> if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM or Disk
> Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and you're
> going to want to install the next build you can get later (probably RC1
> sometime in August).
> 4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
> time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want to
> resize.
> 4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
> boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
> the option to install Vista on the new partition.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uivISh$nGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
>> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install
>> Vista and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>>
>
>

To answer your question, it may be simply a philosophical difference for
lowly end-users like you and me. Where it actually starts to matter is when
you have many more partitions, since you may only have a total of four
primaries on one physical disc. By creating logical partitions, you then
can bag them all up under one primary (extended) partition and that's why
those who actually know what they are doing, such as Andre, Zack, Colin,
Tom, etc... use logical partitions.

And probably not beginners luck; probably more a case of following Andre's
directions carefully and completely because you didn't have any old bad
habits others may have learned ( and a little bit of you didn't know any
other way).

I also am having a relatively successful experience on 3 different machines,
with a total reformat/re-install of maybe seven or eight, three of which
were directly caused by my not being careful in following my own steps
(there's that whole bad habit thing) and the rest because I wanted to try a
different scenario. I must say the upgrades from XP I tried were, ah, less
then stellar.

So good luck and enjoy your new experiences as a Beta tester, DJ, and
remeber to always back-up everything, and to give MSFT some feedback,
whether positive or negative.

Mark

"DJ Bjorklund" <bjork57@hickorytech.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 06:13:57 -0400, "Mark D. VandenBerg"
> <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Choose Win XP/NT as the new O/S, NTFS, and PRIMARY not logical as the type
>>of partition. <snip>
>
> I installed Vista as a dual boot. It resides on a logical partition
> on a 2nd internal HDD. Prior to my install, Andre responded to my
> request for a dual-boot install primer, in part, by recommending a
> logical partition, and I obviously followed that advise.
>
> My question is why do most seem to recommend, as you do Mark, a
> primary partition? Both my old XP and new Vista 5384 installs seem to
> work fine. That is, outside of the expected odd lock-up, crash, or
> feature not working, I haven't noted any particularly strange behavior
> from the beta. Happily I guess, its all been a rather uneventful
> experience on the negative side.
>
> Balanced against what I read here about install woes, driver issues
> (only my Microtek 5900 scanner will not run) and general stability, my
> experience seems like,...well, a walk in the park by comparison. New
> beta tester's beginner's luck? Maybe, huh?

I used your method
create new partition
name that partition (I called it Vista)
do you want to create befor "C" or after "C" (I went for the after "C"
option) then it said that I have 3 things that need applying (I said apply)
the machine rebooted into a blue screen and said that there was a bad
partition, and it failed to create the partition,Why?
It is a brand new machine, all new software and hardware, any ideas
"Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
news:OAvlym$nGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> T5 back again:
>
> 1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
> like what you want to do.
> 2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
> 3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or more
> if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM or Disk
> Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and you're
> going to want to install the next build you can get later (probably RC1
> sometime in August).
> 4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
> time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want to
> resize.
> 4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
> boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
> the option to install Vista on the new partition.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uivISh$nGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
>> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install
>> Vista and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>>
>
>

Trust me, Chad is your man. No one wants to interject (anymore).

"T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ePyqy$FoGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Chad, my man, you are my guardian angel, you didn't leave me (even though
> we have had some rough times). Now before I go any further into a million
> post thread........................ and I will not post again until the
> masses have thier say, (I believe you Chad I do) but is this info correct?
> I do get confused when others interject with info that is different to the
> first advice
> "Chad Harris" <Bushisamoron.net> wrote in message
> news:OAvlym$nGHA.2312@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> T5 back again:
>>
>> 1) Don't use that option for Vista. I know what it says--the title looks
>> like what you want to do.
>> 2) Instead simply click on the top option--"Creat a new partition."
>> 3) Follow the wizard. You have about 265 GB so give yourself 40 GB or
>> more if you want for the Vista partition. You can always either use PM
>> or Disk Management in Vista to resize later depending on your needs, and
>> you're going to want to install the next build you can get later
>> (probably RC1 sometime in August).
>> 4) It shouldn't take you long to create the new partition--what can take
>> time with PM is when you have a partition with a lot on it and you want
>> to resize.
>> 4) Then after creating the new partition, as we've discussed many times,
>> boot into your XP Pro and put in the Vista DVD and you'll be able to have
>> the option to install Vista on the new partition.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "T5" <noanswer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uivISh$nGHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> one of the options in PM8 is to install another OS and the options are
>>> win95/98/me/2000/xp, linux etc etc, which one do I choose to install
>>> Vista and do I use the recommended FAT or NTFS file systems?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>