Vista - ANY GOOD FREE REG CLEANERS FOR VISTA?

Hi
Are there any good free reg cleaners about?
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Martin
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Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:No. Important reading at this link - pay particular attention to MVP
Bill Castner's thorough and excellent answer:

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099


Malke
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http://www.ccleaner.com/



"Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote in message
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and as pointed out in Malke's response, use the backup feature before
allowing any registry entries to be removed. I agree that it is unnecessary
and potentially harmful.

"Dave" <dave@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hello Martin,

Why I don’t use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
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"Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote:

Engel wrote:Jeanette wrote:

I am not sure how this works in Vista since I don't run it but, it
has shown to be safer then most.

The usual warnings about backing up apply.
http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/ecleane.htm

On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:15:05 GMT, Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:

There are no good registry cleaners, free or otherwise.

I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program.
Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the
registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many
people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software try to
convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt
you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

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Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Yes there are!
It is called> Run>Regedit> And use YOUR keyboard yourself!
Make a backup 1st.

"Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote:

"Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net" wrote...
No. There are no good registry cleaners for Vista.

There are no good registry cleaners, for any version of Windows. Running any
of the popular registry cleaners is like washing your hair with petroleum:
sure it gets out the oil, but ...

The task is harder in Vista because of new aspects to the Vista registry,
like virtualisation (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927387/en-us). A
registry cleaner would need to be specifically designed for Vista.

Even then, any registry cleaner is high risk, for little benefit. Don't
bother. As you can see, this opinion is shared by Malke, Ken Blake and Mick
Murphy (and many others too).

Don't be fooled by any anecdotal evidence ("I ran RegFoo and had no
problems; plus, my machine was 200% faster afterwards). Sure, you may be
able to run a reg cleaner once or twice and not have your machine explode in
your face. But it is a very high risk activity. And the "200%" would not be
borne out by any objective performance measurement, it's an optical
illusion.

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Andrew McLaren
amclar (at) optusnet dot com dot au

Martin ©¿©¬ @nohere.net wrote:
There's no such thing as a "good" registry cleaner for any OS. About
the best that can be said for any of them is that they don't render the
computer unusable each time you use one.

Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry cleaner?

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry cleaner, particularly by an untrained, inexperienced
computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's certainly been
no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use of such
products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's performance
or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry cleaners that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.


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