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trouble with new ram

  1. #1


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    trouble with new ram

    i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the blue
    screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the computer
    would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few hours and
    turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen especially
    the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to know if there
    was something i could do to stop these errors?

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  2. #2


    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. Ensure that it is the correct
    type. If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. If you
    are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. The errors will keep
    popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration
    installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

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    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:7E720946-02E0-4C36-BC66-31704E442F05@xxxxxx

    >i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the blue
    >screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the computer
    >would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few hours and
    >turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen especially
    >the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to know if there
    >was something i could do to stop these errors?
    >
    > --
    > Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    > http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
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    >
    > Best Comments From Users:
    > Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >
    > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    > fools. -Web
    >
    > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    > Faults -Everyone

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  3. #3


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and the
    result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.

    Ensure that it is the correct type.

    i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference

    If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.

    they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)

    If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.

    don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
    each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i wouldn't
    know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need to since
    it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not this one)

    The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the
    configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.

    well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
    because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
    much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
    surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)

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    "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:O1byChBFIHA.1164@xxxxxx

    > Run memory tests, but give memory a chance. Ensure that it is the correct
    > type. If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched. If you
    > are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine. The errors will
    > keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like the configuration
    > installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall - MVP
    > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
    > Posting Productively.. http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    >
    >
    >
    > "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:7E720946-02E0-4C36-BC66-31704E442F05@xxxxxx

    >>i bought ram last month i believe, and for some reason i'm getting the
    >>blue screen of death sometimes not always. and today was even worse the
    >>computer would always give me the blue screen of death, and i waited few
    >>hours and turned it on and now it's fine. but i'm tired of the blue screen
    >>especially the ram is fine, i will try the ram tester, but i wanted to
    >>know if there was something i could do to stop these errors?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>
    >> Best Comments From Users:
    >> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>
    >> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >> fools. -Web
    >>
    >> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >> Faults -Everyone
    >

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  4. #4


    PvdG42 Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx

    > Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    > i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
    > the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.
    >
    > Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >
    > i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    > although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    > ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >
    > If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >
    > they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)
    >
    > If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >
    > don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
    > each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
    > wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
    > to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
    > this one)
    >
    > The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
    > the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >
    > well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
    > because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
    > much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
    > surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)
    >
    You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or go
    bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason, the RAM
    you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.

    Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
    issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the problems
    appeared?

    What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the vendor
    give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should consider
    ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial is an
    example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor that
    will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable* restocking
    fee if it's incompatible.

    Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?


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  5. #5


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    > You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or

    > go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
    > the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
    A++ classes for computer repair graduated)

    > Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
    > issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    > problems appeared?
    yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a while,
    but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.

    > What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    > disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    > vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    > consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial
    > is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor
    > that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable*
    > restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i was
    smart enough to keep the original ram

    > Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    > disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor or
    the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean, i
    got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)

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    "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx

    >> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
    >> the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's not.
    >>
    >> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>
    >> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>
    >> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>
    >> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)
    >>
    >> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>
    >> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
    >> each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
    >> wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
    >> to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
    >> this one)
    >>
    >> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
    >> the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >>
    >> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
    >> because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't change
    >> much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it would
    >> surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)
    >>
    > You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
    > go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
    > the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >
    > Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
    > issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    > problems appeared?
    >
    > What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    > disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    > vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    > consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility. Crucial
    > is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from a vendor
    > that will allow you to return the memory for a refund - *reasonable*
    > restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >
    > Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    > disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?

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  6. #6


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but
    first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a while
    and then i reboot that i have problem

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    Faults -Everyone
    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:uR2iJVLFIHA.1056@xxxxxx

    >> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
    >> go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
    >> the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    > hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
    > A++ classes for computer repair graduated)
    >

    >> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
    >> issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >> problems appeared?
    >
    > yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
    > while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.
    >

    >> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    >> consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
    >> Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
    >> a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
    >> *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >
    > will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
    > was smart enough to keep the original ram
    >

    >> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    > it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    > don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor
    > or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very clean,
    > i got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)
    >
    > --
    > Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    > http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    > - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >
    > Best Comments From Users:
    > Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >
    > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    > fools. -Web
    >
    > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    > Faults -Everyone
    > "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:%23ofaUOKFIHA.2004@xxxxxx

    >> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >> message news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx

    >>> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >>> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool and
    >>> the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but it's
    >>> not.
    >>>
    >>> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>>
    >>> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >>> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >>> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>>
    >>> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>>
    >>> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount (1gbx2)
    >>>
    >>> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>>
    >>> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap 39.99
    >>> each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which i
    >>> wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no need
    >>> to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just not
    >>> this one)
    >>>
    >>> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not like
    >>> the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >>>
    >>> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
    >>> because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
    >>> change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram, it
    >>> would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6 month.)
    >>>
    >> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning, or
    >> go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever reason,
    >> the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>
    >> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with the
    >> issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >> problems appeared?
    >>
    >> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    >> consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
    >> Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
    >> a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
    >> *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>
    >> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >

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  7. #7


    JW Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
    I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:9136686A-6DC9-49A6-91D6-1211F0F4BE57@xxxxxx

    > well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this but
    > first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a
    > while and then i reboot that i have problem
    >
    > --
    > Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    > http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    > - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >
    > Best Comments From Users:
    > Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >
    > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    > fools. -Web
    >
    > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    > Faults -Everyone
    > "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:uR2iJVLFIHA.1056@xxxxxx

    >>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >> hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety step(i'm
    >> A++ classes for computer repair graduated)
    >>

    >>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>> problems appeared?
    >>
    >> yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
    >> while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at all.
    >>

    >>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    >>> consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
    >>> Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
    >>> a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
    >>> *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>
    >> will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
    >> was smart enough to keep the original ram
    >>

    >>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >> it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    >> don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the monitor
    >> or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc very
    >> clean, i got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)
    >>
    >> --
    >> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>
    >> Best Comments From Users:
    >> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>
    >> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >> fools. -Web
    >>
    >> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >> Faults -Everyone
    >> "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:%23ofaUOKFIHA.2004@xxxxxx

    >>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>> message news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx
    >>>> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >>>> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
    >>>> and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
    >>>> it's not.
    >>>>
    >>>> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>>>
    >>>> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >>>> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >>>> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>>>
    >>>> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>>>
    >>>> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
    >>>> (1gbx2)
    >>>>
    >>>> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>>>
    >>>> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
    >>>> 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which
    >>>> i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no
    >>>> need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer just
    >>>> not this one)
    >>>>
    >>>> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
    >>>> like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >>>>
    >>>> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it out
    >>>> because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
    >>>> change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram,
    >>>> it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6
    >>>> month.)
    >>>>
    >>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>
    >>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>> problems appeared?
    >>>
    >>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you should
    >>> consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee compatibility.
    >>> Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at least order from
    >>> a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for a refund -
    >>> *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>
    >>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>
    >

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  8. #8


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
    much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right now
    i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says it's
    compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon the
    maker of the ram.

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    "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:5D42CA81-45FC-4AA7-BA11-4A616D95FE2C@xxxxxx

    > Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
    > I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
    > "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:9136686A-6DC9-49A6-91D6-1211F0F4BE57@xxxxxx

    >> well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
    >> but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for a
    >> while and then i reboot that i have problem
    >>
    >> --
    >> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>
    >> Best Comments From Users:
    >> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>
    >> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >> fools. -Web
    >>
    >> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >> Faults -Everyone
    >> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >> message news:uR2iJVLFIHA.1056@xxxxxx

    >>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>> hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
    >>> step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)
    >>>
    >>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>> problems appeared?
    >>>
    >>> yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
    >>> while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
    >>> all.
    >>>
    >>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>
    >>> will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly i
    >>> was smart enough to keep the original ram
    >>>
    >>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>> it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    >>> don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
    >>> monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
    >>> very clean, i got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >>> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>>
    >>> Best Comments From Users:
    >>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>>
    >>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >>> fools. -Web
    >>>
    >>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >>> Faults -Everyone
    >>> "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>> news:%23ofaUOKFIHA.2004@xxxxxx
    >>>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>>> message news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx
    >>>>> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >>>>> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
    >>>>> and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
    >>>>> it's not.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >>>>> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >>>>> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
    >>>>> (1gbx2)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
    >>>>> 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop, which
    >>>>> i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i have no
    >>>>> need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a computer
    >>>>> just not this one)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
    >>>>> like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is faulty.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
    >>>>> out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which doesn't
    >>>>> change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the faulty ram,
    >>>>> it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not even 6
    >>>>> month.)
    >>>>>
    >>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>> problems appeared?
    >>>>
    >>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>>
    >>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>>
    >>
    >

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  9. #9


    Computer & Sound System Tech Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    this is stupid i do a downgrade from 2gb to 1gb of ram and my system score
    is higher by .1 well, you can see how this feature means nothing usefull and
    isn't accurate.

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    Best Comments From Users:
    Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me

    A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
    foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web

    No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    Faults -Everyone
    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:BD80B354-3663-447A-B1A7-C60769627A61@xxxxxx

    >i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
    >much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right
    >now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says
    >it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon
    >the maker of the ram.
    >
    > --
    > Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    > http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    > - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >
    > Best Comments From Users:
    > Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >
    > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    > fools. -Web
    >
    > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    > Faults -Everyone
    > "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:5D42CA81-45FC-4AA7-BA11-4A616D95FE2C@xxxxxx

    >> Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
    >> I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
    >> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >> message news:9136686A-6DC9-49A6-91D6-1211F0F4BE57@xxxxxx

    >>> well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
    >>> but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for
    >>> a while and then i reboot that i have problem
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >>> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>>
    >>> Best Comments From Users:
    >>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>>
    >>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >>> fools. -Web
    >>>
    >>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >>> Faults -Everyone
    >>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>> message news:uR2iJVLFIHA.1056@xxxxxx
    >>>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>> hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
    >>>> step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)
    >>>>
    >>>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>>> problems appeared?
    >>>>
    >>>> yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
    >>>> while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
    >>>> all.
    >>>>
    >>>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>>
    >>>> will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly
    >>>> i was smart enough to keep the original ram
    >>>>
    >>>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>>> it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    >>>> don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
    >>>> monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
    >>>> very clean, i got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >>>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >>>> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>>>
    >>>> Best Comments From Users:
    >>>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>>>
    >>>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >>>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >>>> fools. -Web
    >>>>
    >>>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >>>> Faults -Everyone
    >>>> "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>>> news:%23ofaUOKFIHA.2004@xxxxxx
    >>>>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>>>> message news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx
    >>>>>> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >>>>>> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
    >>>>>> and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
    >>>>>> it's not.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >>>>>> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >>>>>> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
    >>>>>> (1gbx2)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
    >>>>>> 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop,
    >>>>>> which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i
    >>>>>> have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a
    >>>>>> computer just not this one)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
    >>>>>> like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is
    >>>>>> faulty.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
    >>>>>> out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which
    >>>>>> doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the
    >>>>>> faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not
    >>>>>> even 6 month.)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>>> problems appeared?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >

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  10. #10


    JW Guest

    Re: trouble with new ram

    For Vista you need to allocate 128MB of shared memory if you want to use
    Aero or flip3d.

    "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:BD80B354-3663-447A-B1A7-C60769627A61@xxxxxx

    >i can't i don't have an option for this the only thing i can set up is how
    >much ram to use as video memory, the min is 32 and the max is 256, right
    >now i have it set up as 64mb, and it's weird because on the labelit says
    >it's compatible with my type of system, i guess i'll have to call centon
    >the maker of the ram.
    >
    > --
    > Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    > http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    > - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >
    > Best Comments From Users:
    > Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >
    > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    > completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    > fools. -Web
    >
    > No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    > Faults -Everyone
    > "JW" <JW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:5D42CA81-45FC-4AA7-BA11-4A616D95FE2C@xxxxxx

    >> Sound like the additional memory is drawing too much power.
    >> I suggest that you slow down the memory speed in your BIOS.
    >> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >> message news:9136686A-6DC9-49A6-91D6-1211F0F4BE57@xxxxxx

    >>> well first boot is alright but very slow, i'm not surprised about this
    >>> but first boot will always work fine, it's when the pc has been hot for
    >>> a while and then i reboot that i have problem
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >>> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>>
    >>> Best Comments From Users:
    >>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>>
    >>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >>> fools. -Web
    >>>
    >>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >>> Faults -Everyone
    >>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>> message news:uR2iJVLFIHA.1056@xxxxxx
    >>>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>> hummm ok well it wasn't the static because i took all the safety
    >>>> step(i'm A++ classes for computer repair graduated)
    >>>>
    >>>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>>> problems appeared?
    >>>>
    >>>> yes although it wasn't that bad at first it was just every one and a
    >>>> while, but yesterday it was at a point where i couldn't run my pc at
    >>>> all.
    >>>>
    >>>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>>
    >>>> will post back to say what happen when i downgrade the ram, fortunatly
    >>>> i was smart enough to keep the original ram
    >>>>
    >>>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>>> it might be heat but never had this problem with the original ram, so i
    >>>> don't know. and this pc is brand new there no crud or dust on the
    >>>> monitor or the keyboard even less inside the comparment(i keep this pc
    >>>> very clean, i got pissed off when i saw a little scratch.)
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Licensed Boating Capt. Jonathan Perreault
    >>>> http://www.AllAboutGames.BraveHost.com
    >>>> - note: click continue, when it ask about security certificate -
    >>>>
    >>>> Best Comments From Users:
    >>>> Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
    >>>>
    >>>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something
    >>>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
    >>>> fools. -Web
    >>>>
    >>>> No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
    >>>> Faults -Everyone
    >>>> "PvdG42" <pvdg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >>>> news:%23ofaUOKFIHA.2004@xxxxxx
    >>>>> "Computer & Sound System Tech" <jonperreault@xxxxxx> wrote in
    >>>>> message news:EA108E5B-C879-483F-9A1A-7C7854A902C7@xxxxxx
    >>>>>> Run memory tests, but give memory a chance.
    >>>>>> i did i can't see the result i ran the windows memory diagnosis tool
    >>>>>> and the result aren't showing the system said it would tell me, but
    >>>>>> it's not.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Ensure that it is the correct type.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> i use the exact same model that my pc came with pc2-5300 ddr2-667mhz,
    >>>>>> although i might be wrong i believe the original came with pc2-5300
    >>>>>> ddr2-533mhz, don't know if it makes a difference
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you are going to pair RAM, ensure that sticks are matched.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> they are the exact same thing, same maker, same mhz, same amount
    >>>>>> (1gbx2)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If you are using budget makes, do NOT overclock your machine.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> don't know what you mean by budget makes, but yes i got them cheap
    >>>>>> 39.99 each, and in my case i can't overclock i'm using a laptop,
    >>>>>> which i wouldn't know how to overclock this peticular laptop, and i
    >>>>>> have no need to since it's fast 2.0ghz.(i know how to overclock a
    >>>>>> computer just not this one)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The errors will keep popping up for as long as the machine does not
    >>>>>> like the configuration installed or if one of the RAM chips is
    >>>>>> faulty.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> well if it doesn't like the configuration it will have to though it
    >>>>>> out because all i can do is change the order of the ram, which
    >>>>>> doesn't change much because both of them are 1 gb, and as for the
    >>>>>> faulty ram, it would surprise me because they are even a year old(not
    >>>>>> even 6 month.)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> You should not be surprised at all. RAM can be bad from the beginning,
    >>>>> or go bad due to static electricity or other reasons. For whatever
    >>>>> reason, the RAM you purchased does not work properly in your laptop.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Are you saying that you have had this memory for almost 6 months with
    >>>>> the issues you cite? Why did you not contact the vendor as soon as the
    >>>>> problems appeared?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> What happens if you put the original memory back in? Do the issues
    >>>>> disappear? That's a sure sign the new memory is incompatible. Did the
    >>>>> vendor give you a compatibility guarantee? Perhaps, next time you
    >>>>> should consider ordering from a vendor that does guarantee
    >>>>> compatibility. Crucial is an example. If you don't want to do that, at
    >>>>> least order from a vendor that will allow you to return the memory for
    >>>>> a refund - *reasonable* restocking fee if it's incompatible.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Is there any chance the issues are heat related? When did you last
    >>>>> disassemble the laptop to check for crud in the cooling fan?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >

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