There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow
installation of them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility
mode thing they've read about to install software. The drivers are
compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also Windows v6, XP is not,
much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work well or at all in
XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to
pray then be disappointed and format hard drives.

"Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow installation of
> them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility mode thing they've read about to
> install software. The drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also
> Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work well or at all
> in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to pray then be
> disappointed and format hard drives.

I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
but unlikely.


-Michael

Yeah, but it's still funny because overall it's so very very true ;-)

"Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow
> installation of them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility
> mode thing they've read about to install software. The drivers are
> compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also Windows v6, XP is
> not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work well or at
> all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you
> like to pray then be disappointed and format hard drives.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't
>> allow installation of them in may cases whereby users try this XP
>> compaitbility mode thing they've read about to install software. The
>> drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also Windows
>> v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work
>> well or at all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers
>> unless you like to pray then be disappointed and format hard drives.
>
> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
> but unlikely.
>

You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is what it
was designed for. The OP was talking about people who try to install XP
drivers in Vista using compatibility mode. They might install, but it's not
going to be particularly stable. And if the driver is for a critical piece
of hardware, it could get you to a point where there's no sane way to
recover.

DC

"D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%233Kxy43qGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow installation of
>>> them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility mode thing they've read about to
>>> install software. The drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also
>>> Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work well or at
>>> all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to pray then
>>> be disappointed and format hard drives.
>>
>> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
>> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
>> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
>> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
>> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
>> but unlikely.
>>
>
> You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is what it was designed for.
> The OP was talking about people who try to install XP drivers in Vista using compatibility
> mode. They might install, but it's not going to be particularly stable. And if the driver is
> for a critical piece of hardware, it could get you to a point where there's no sane way to
> recover.


Actually, I have done both. Mostly, you are correct- I use it for
some programs. However, I have used XP drivers for my soundcard
and my USB wireless network adaptor. My sound works great. I
tried many things to get it to work, the XP drivers finally did the trick.
At times, my USB wireless network adaptor seems flakey. But, is that
because USB in Vista has some issues or the XP driver? Perhaps,
a combination of both. The OP made it sound matter of fact that
using XP drivers would cause you to have to reformat. Yes, I
suppose that's possible. But, it's also possible that the XP drivers
will be the solution to some problems.


-Michael

I defy you to show "matter of fact." I'm seeing some busted systems becuase
of the drivers installed in compatibility mode. Pointing out a worse case
scenario that can happen and likely to happen. Trying to help people who do
not understand the ramifications of using XP Compatibility. That's what I
do here and I don't criticize, make assumptions or flame.
"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:%2312Ko76qGHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4i82etF2hoslU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:%233Kxy43qGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't
>>>> allow installation of them in may cases whereby users try this XP
>>>> compaitbility mode thing they've read about to install software. The
>>>> drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also
>>>> Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would
>>>> not work well or at all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used
>>>> for drivers unless you like to pray then be disappointed and format
>>>> hard drives.
>>>
>>> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
>>> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
>>> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
>>> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
>>> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
>>> but unlikely.
>>>
>>
>> You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is what
>> it was designed for. The OP was talking about people who try to install
>> XP drivers in Vista using compatibility mode. They might install, but
>> it's not going to be particularly stable. And if the driver is for a
>> critical piece of hardware, it could get you to a point where there's no
>> sane way to recover.
>
>
> Actually, I have done both. Mostly, you are correct- I use it for
> some programs. However, I have used XP drivers for my soundcard
> and my USB wireless network adaptor. My sound works great. I
> tried many things to get it to work, the XP drivers finally did the trick.
> At times, my USB wireless network adaptor seems flakey. But, is that
> because USB in Vista has some issues or the XP driver? Perhaps,
> a combination of both. The OP made it sound matter of fact that
> using XP drivers would cause you to have to reformat. Yes, I
> suppose that's possible. But, it's also possible that the XP drivers
> will be the solution to some problems.
>
>
> -Michael

"Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to pray then be
disappointed and format hard drives."

That sounds rather definitive and one-sided.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with letting
users know of all the options. You stated
your observation about possible ramifications
when using XP drivers. I stated my findings on
the positive results that can be had using XP
drivers. I do not doubt your observations,
only the scare tactics you used. Of course,
all other options should be tried before using
an XP driver and one should be prepared for
any outcome when you use an XP driver.

You offered worst case, I offered
best case.

If you consider my posts as flaming you-
then you need to grow some thicker skin.


-Michael


"Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Orwu2y8qGHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I defy you to show "matter of fact." I'm seeing some busted systems becuase of the drivers
>installed in compatibility mode. Pointing out a worse case scenario that can happen and
>likely to happen. Trying to help people who do not understand the ramifications of using XP
>Compatibility. That's what I do here and I don't criticize, make assumptions or flame.
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%2312Ko76qGHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4i82etF2hoslU1@individual.net...
>>>
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%233Kxy43qGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow installation
>>>>> of them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility mode thing they've read
>>>>> about to install software. The drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This
>>>>> is also Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not work
>>>>> well or at all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like
>>>>> to pray then be disappointed and format hard drives.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
>>>> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
>>>> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
>>>> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
>>>> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
>>>> but unlikely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is what it was designed
>>> for. The OP was talking about people who try to install XP drivers in Vista using
>>> compatibility mode. They might install, but it's not going to be particularly stable. And
>>> if the driver is for a critical piece of hardware, it could get you to a point where
>>> there's no sane way to recover.
>>
>>
>> Actually, I have done both. Mostly, you are correct- I use it for
>> some programs. However, I have used XP drivers for my soundcard
>> and my USB wireless network adaptor. My sound works great. I
>> tried many things to get it to work, the XP drivers finally did the trick.
>> At times, my USB wireless network adaptor seems flakey. But, is that
>> because USB in Vista has some issues or the XP driver? Perhaps,
>> a combination of both. The OP made it sound matter of fact that
>> using XP drivers would cause you to have to reformat. Yes, I
>> suppose that's possible. But, it's also possible that the XP drivers
>> will be the solution to some problems.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>

I did not accuse you of flaming me, so there should be no need for me to be
growing any sort of skin. Also I will grow whatever skin I fkn want to.
You have not shown "matter of fact." My comment was a very general tongue
in cheek and then all this crap but you want to put forth your point, yes I
have installed drivers in compatibility mode without a problem and then
tried a graphics driver that didn't go well and formatted. I generally
format when I hose an unstable OS whether it *really* needs it or not. I
like a stable system setup correctly. But you win the argument so pat
yourself on the back.

Also, try to remember the skills level of ALL in this ng. I was addressing
those who are new to beta testing.

"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:%23qZzaf$qGHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> "Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to pray
> then be
> disappointed and format hard drives."
>
> That sounds rather definitive and one-sided.
>
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with letting
> users know of all the options. You stated
> your observation about possible ramifications
> when using XP drivers. I stated my findings on
> the positive results that can be had using XP
> drivers. I do not doubt your observations,
> only the scare tactics you used. Of course,
> all other options should be tried before using
> an XP driver and one should be prepared for
> any outcome when you use an XP driver.
>
> You offered worst case, I offered
> best case.
>
> If you consider my posts as flaming you-
> then you need to grow some thicker skin.
>
>
> -Michael
>
>
> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:Orwu2y8qGHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I defy you to show "matter of fact." I'm seeing some busted systems
>>becuase of the drivers installed in compatibility mode. Pointing out a
>>worse case scenario that can happen and likely to happen. Trying to help
>>people who do not understand the ramifications of using XP Compatibility.
>>That's what I do here and I don't criticize, make assumptions or flame.
>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>> news:%2312Ko76qGHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4i82etF2hoslU1@individual.net...
>>>>
>>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%233Kxy43qGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't
>>>>>> allow installation of them in may cases whereby users try this XP
>>>>>> compaitbility mode thing they've read about to install software. The
>>>>>> drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP. This is also
>>>>>> Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would
>>>>>> not work well or at all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used
>>>>>> for drivers unless you like to pray then be disappointed and format
>>>>>> hard drives.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
>>>>> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
>>>>> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
>>>>> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
>>>>> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
>>>>> but unlikely.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is
>>>> what it was designed for. The OP was talking about people who try to
>>>> install XP drivers in Vista using compatibility mode. They might
>>>> install, but it's not going to be particularly stable. And if the
>>>> driver is for a critical piece of hardware, it could get you to a point
>>>> where there's no sane way to recover.
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, I have done both. Mostly, you are correct- I use it for
>>> some programs. However, I have used XP drivers for my soundcard
>>> and my USB wireless network adaptor. My sound works great. I
>>> tried many things to get it to work, the XP drivers finally did the
>>> trick.
>>> At times, my USB wireless network adaptor seems flakey. But, is that
>>> because USB in Vista has some issues or the XP driver? Perhaps,
>>> a combination of both. The OP made it sound matter of fact that
>>> using XP drivers would cause you to have to reformat. Yes, I
>>> suppose that's possible. But, it's also possible that the XP drivers
>>> will be the solution to some problems.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Michael
>>
>
>

"Honey, I won, the guy said I won."

Please email so that I may give you all the
pertinent details of where to send my prize.

Thanks.

Oh, be sure to wear sunscreen.

Take care,

Michael

"Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
news:uxPCclCrGHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I did not accuse you of flaming me, so there should be no need for me to be growing any sort
>of skin. Also I will grow whatever skin I fkn want to. You have not shown "matter of fact."
>My comment was a very general tongue in cheek and then all this crap but you want to put forth
>your point, yes I have installed drivers in compatibility mode without a problem and then
>tried a graphics driver that didn't go well and formatted. I generally format when I hose an
>unstable OS whether it *really* needs it or not. I like a stable system setup correctly. But
>you win the argument so pat yourself on the back.
>
> Also, try to remember the skills level of ALL in this ng. I was addressing those who are new
> to beta testing.
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:%23qZzaf$qGHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless you like to pray then be
>> disappointed and format hard drives."
>>
>> That sounds rather definitive and one-sided.
>>
>> There is absolutely nothing wrong with letting
>> users know of all the options. You stated
>> your observation about possible ramifications
>> when using XP drivers. I stated my findings on
>> the positive results that can be had using XP
>> drivers. I do not doubt your observations,
>> only the scare tactics you used. Of course,
>> all other options should be tried before using
>> an XP driver and one should be prepared for
>> any outcome when you use an XP driver.
>>
>> You offered worst case, I offered
>> best case.
>>
>> If you consider my posts as flaming you-
>> then you need to grow some thicker skin.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:Orwu2y8qGHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I defy you to show "matter of fact." I'm seeing some busted systems becuase of the drivers
>>>installed in compatibility mode. Pointing out a worse case scenario that can happen and
>>>likely to happen. Trying to help people who do not understand the ramifications of using XP
>>>Compatibility. That's what I do here and I don't criticize, make assumptions or flame.
>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%2312Ko76qGHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> "D.Currie" <dmbcurrie.nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4i82etF2hoslU1@individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%233Kxy43qGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> "Bob T." <bobunderscoretreat@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uIAOhj3qGHA.4992@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> There is a reason they are not included in Vista by MS. Vista won't allow installation
>>>>>>> of them in may cases whereby users try this XP compaitbility mode thing they've read
>>>>>>> about to install software. The drivers are compaitible with XP but this is not XP.
>>>>>>> This is also Windows v6, XP is not, much like Me was not v5.1 and Me drivers would not
>>>>>>> work well or at all in XP. Compatibility mode should not be used for drivers unless
>>>>>>> you like to pray then be disappointed and format hard drives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't had to format a hard drive or reinstall Vista due
>>>>>> to using compatibility mode. In fact, I am using several
>>>>>> programs that way. Yes, it may cause problems for some
>>>>>> and it may not work for others. Of course, compatibility mode
>>>>>> should only be used as a last resort. But, a format? Possible,
>>>>>> but unlikely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You're talking about using programs in compatibility mode, which is what it was designed
>>>>> for. The OP was talking about people who try to install XP drivers in Vista using
>>>>> compatibility mode. They might install, but it's not going to be particularly stable. And
>>>>> if the driver is for a critical piece of hardware, it could get you to a point where
>>>>> there's no sane way to recover.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I have done both. Mostly, you are correct- I use it for
>>>> some programs. However, I have used XP drivers for my soundcard
>>>> and my USB wireless network adaptor. My sound works great. I
>>>> tried many things to get it to work, the XP drivers finally did the trick.
>>>> At times, my USB wireless network adaptor seems flakey. But, is that
>>>> because USB in Vista has some issues or the XP driver? Perhaps,
>>>> a combination of both. The OP made it sound matter of fact that
>>>> using XP drivers would cause you to have to reformat. Yes, I
>>>> suppose that's possible. But, it's also possible that the XP drivers
>>>> will be the solution to some problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Michael
>>>
>>
>>
>