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Old 01-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
Carrie


 
 

HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS, Uninstalls

Hi,

I have a HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series hooked up to a HP laptop via
a usb cable. Each time i unhook the usb cable and take the laptop anywhere,
come home and hook up the usb cable again the printer automatictly
reinstalles the printer software and drivers, requesting me to insert the
disk once again. This never fails, i've probably reinstalled my printer
drivers a dozen times since its purchase with never actually uninstalling it
myself. Is there a reason why it does this? is there any way to prevent this?
Any advise would be very helpful. Thank you.

Carrie

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Old 01-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
Cari \(MS-MVP\)


 
 

Re: HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS, Uninstalls

It's unfortunately perfectly normal. Some USB devices have a unique ID
encoded into their hardware, in that case, Windows will recognize that it's
the same device it had installed before and just reinstate the drivers. If
the unique ID is not encoded into the device, Windows cannot tell that it is
exactly the same device and will reinstall the drivers as if it's a new
device or a second instance of the same device. No workaround, sorry.
--
Cari (MS-MVP) Printing & Imaging
www.coribright.com/windows

"Carrie" <Carrie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4E8782F9-F6DE-421A-8E18-8672CF2CAC5A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series hooked up to a HP laptop
> via
> a usb cable. Each time i unhook the usb cable and take the laptop
> anywhere,
> come home and hook up the usb cable again the printer automatictly
> reinstalles the printer software and drivers, requesting me to insert the
> disk once again. This never fails, i've probably reinstalled my printer
> drivers a dozen times since its purchase with never actually uninstalling
> it
> myself. Is there a reason why it does this? is there any way to prevent
> this?
> Any advise would be very helpful. Thank you.
>
> Carrie
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-18-2008   #3 (permalink)
Carlos


 
 

RE: HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS, Uninstalls

Carrie:
Are you using HP's latest drivers (October 2007)?
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...619474&lang=en

If you are using an older version (I don't know if there exists one) you
might try uninstalling it first, following these HP's instructions:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...619474&lang=en

Carlos

"Carrie" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series hooked up to a HP laptop via
> a usb cable. Each time i unhook the usb cable and take the laptop anywhere,
> come home and hook up the usb cable again the printer automatictly
> reinstalles the printer software and drivers, requesting me to insert the
> disk once again. This never fails, i've probably reinstalled my printer
> drivers a dozen times since its purchase with never actually uninstalling it
> myself. Is there a reason why it does this? is there any way to prevent this?
> Any advise would be very helpful. Thank you.
>
> Carrie
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-19-2008   #4 (permalink)
Quaoar


 
 

Re: HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS, Uninstalls

Cari (MS-MVP) wrote:
Quote:

> It's unfortunately perfectly normal. Some USB devices have a unique ID
> encoded into their hardware, in that case, Windows will recognize that
> it's the same device it had installed before and just reinstate the
> drivers. If the unique ID is not encoded into the device, Windows
> cannot tell that it is exactly the same device and will reinstall the
> drivers as if it's a new device or a second instance of the same
> device. No workaround, sorry.
So, Microsoft has changed the behavior of USB devices, deliberately?
With XP, things just worked. Now we have an entire newsgroup reporting
the same thing: eventual failure of USB devices to register on both the
original port or another port.

This behavior of Vista is abysmal. Note that SP1 release candidates do
nothing to correct this problem.

This problem is too serious for "no workaround, sorry". This is the one
problem that Microsoft needs to correct, NOW, without delay. It is a
problem inherent in Vista, it can be corrected.

Q
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-04-2008   #5 (permalink)
christophermcculloch


 
 

Re: HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS,Uninstalls

On Jan 19, 10:28*pm, Quaoar <astro_qua...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> Cari (MS-MVP) wrote:
Quote:

> > It's unfortunately perfectly normal. *Some USB devices have a unique ID
> > encoded into their hardware, in that case, Windows will recognize that
> > it's the same device it had installed before and just reinstate the
> > drivers. *If the unique ID is not encoded into the device, Windows
> > cannot tell that it is exactly the same device and will reinstall the
> > drivers as if it's a new device or a second instance of the same
> > device. *No workaround, sorry.
>
> So, Microsoft has changed the behavior of USB devices, deliberately?
> With XP, things just worked. *Now we have an entire newsgroup reporting
> the same thing: eventual failure of USB devices to register on both the
> original port or another port.
>
> This behavior of Vista is abysmal. Note that SP1 release candidates do
> nothing to correct this problem.
>
> This problem is too serious for "no workaround, sorry". This is the one
> problem that Microsoft needs to correct, NOW, without delay. *It is a
> problem inherent in Vista, it can be corrected.
>
> Q
Having this same problem with the C4200 on a HP Laptop. There was so
many copies of the printer installed it would no longer print
correctly. Stopping the print spooler, deleting the files in the print
spool folder, nothing will let us delete all of the printers they're
just sitting there "Deleteing - Offline" as the status. Now the system
wont even allow us to install the printer again to use it.

- Christopher McCulloch CompTIA A+ MCSE+Security
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Old 02-11-2008   #6 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Re: HP Photosmart C4200 All-in-One series , HP Laptop, UBS,Uninstalls

I've been looking into this problem for a friend - same HP printer, Vista Home Premium, every time he switches the printer on it tries to install the drivers and creates another instance of the printer.

Some Googling revealed a Microsoft KB article about it: 934633. This pointed to a hotfix, which I installed last night.

What this appears to have done is change the behaviour so that now it deletes the first instance of the printer before reinstalling. It still reinstalls every time, but you no longer get multiple copies of the printer.

I find it hard to believe that Microsoft actually regard this as a fix, but thus far I haven't had much luck getting any information out of them. If I ever do, I'll post it here.

Does anyone have a USB multi-function printer that _does_ work with Vista? If so what make and model - the simplest option may be to buy one of those.

Regards,


Dan.
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