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Old 02-28-2008   #1 (permalink)
JSF


 
 

Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
special.

Latest BIOS.

I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.

(All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)

Copy from NAS to C: drive

SATA - 3GB/s
IDE - 10GB/s

Copy from C: drive to D: drive

SATA - 4GB/s
IDE - 22GB/s

Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive

SATA - 16GB/s

Something really weird is going on

These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought it
might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.

What could possibly be going on?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-28-2008   #2 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

Hi, JSF.

Would you mind telling us the make and model of your SATA drive?

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
> special.
>
> Latest BIOS.
>
> I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.
>
> (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
>
> Copy from NAS to C: drive
>
> SATA - 3GB/s
> IDE - 10GB/s
>
> Copy from C: drive to D: drive
>
> SATA - 4GB/s
> IDE - 22GB/s
>
> Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
>
> SATA - 16GB/s
>
> Something really weird is going on
>
> These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
> This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought
> it
> might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
>
> What could possibly be going on?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-28-2008   #3 (permalink)
Dustin Harper


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

Download the newest drivers for your chipset from the Gigabyte site. See if
that helps your transfer speeds.

--

Dustin Harper
dharper@xxxxxx
http://www.vistarip.com | Vista Resource & Information Page


"JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
> special.
>
> Latest BIOS.
>
> I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.
>
> (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
>
> Copy from NAS to C: drive
>
> SATA - 3GB/s
> IDE - 10GB/s
>
> Copy from C: drive to D: drive
>
> SATA - 4GB/s
> IDE - 22GB/s
>
> Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
>
> SATA - 16GB/s
>
> Something really weird is going on
>
> These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
> This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought
> it
> might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
>
> What could possibly be going on?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-29-2008   #4 (permalink)
JSF


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

It is a Maxtor DiamondMax 11 HD, 500GB.

"R. C. White" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi, JSF.
>
> Would you mind telling us the make and model of your SATA drive?
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@xxxxxx
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
> > special.
> >
> > Latest BIOS.
> >
> > I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.
> >
> > (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
> >
> > Copy from NAS to C: drive
> >
> > SATA - 3GB/s
> > IDE - 10GB/s
> >
> > Copy from C: drive to D: drive
> >
> > SATA - 4GB/s
> > IDE - 22GB/s
> >
> > Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
> >
> > SATA - 16GB/s
> >
> > Something really weird is going on
> >
> > These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
> > This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought
> > it
> > might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
> >
> > What could possibly be going on?
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-29-2008   #5 (permalink)
JSF


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

I tried updating with both the vista drivers that came with the board as well
as the vista drivers that were on the GB website. Neither did any difference.

In device manager the write caching is turned on and even the advanced
selection is chosen, no luck.

The same sata drive can read fast enough to write @ ~16MB/s to a USB drive,
so functionally it can read, just can't write.

"Dustin Harper" wrote:
Quote:

> Download the newest drivers for your chipset from the Gigabyte site. See if
> that helps your transfer speeds.
>
> --
>
> Dustin Harper
> dharper@xxxxxx
> http://www.vistarip.com | Vista Resource & Information Page
>
>
> "JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
> > special.
> >
> > Latest BIOS.
> >
> > I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.
> >
> > (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
> >
> > Copy from NAS to C: drive
> >
> > SATA - 3GB/s
> > IDE - 10GB/s
> >
> > Copy from C: drive to D: drive
> >
> > SATA - 4GB/s
> > IDE - 22GB/s
> >
> > Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
> >
> > SATA - 16GB/s
> >
> > Something really weird is going on
> >
> > These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
> > This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought
> > it
> > might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
> >
> > What could possibly be going on?
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-29-2008   #6 (permalink)
JSF


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

OK, just pulled a SATA I drive from my HTPC, popped it in the server (same
board) and it is running fine with appropriate speeds.

Not a board issue.
Not an OS issue.
Definitely a drive issue.

RMA has been sent already.

"JSF" wrote:
Quote:

> It is a Maxtor DiamondMax 11 HD, 500GB.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Hi, JSF.
> >
> > Would you mind telling us the make and model of your SATA drive?
> >
> > RC
> > --
> > R. C. White, CPA
> > San Marcos, TX
> > rc@xxxxxx
> > Microsoft Windows MVP
> > (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
> >
> > "JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > > Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory, nothing
> > > special.
> > >
> > > Latest BIOS.
> > >
> > > I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was terrible.
> > >
> > > (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
> > >
> > > Copy from NAS to C: drive
> > >
> > > SATA - 3GB/s
> > > IDE - 10GB/s
> > >
> > > Copy from C: drive to D: drive
> > >
> > > SATA - 4GB/s
> > > IDE - 22GB/s
> > >
> > > Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
> > >
> > > SATA - 16GB/s
> > >
> > > Something really weird is going on
> > >
> > > These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no patches.
> > > This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I thought
> > > it
> > > might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
> > >
> > > What could possibly be going on?
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-29-2008   #7 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

Hi, JSF.

Thanks for the feedback. Good luck with that new drive.

I had 2 bad Maxtors at the same time in 2006. The 2 replacements haven't
hiccupped. ;<)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

"JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8F129CF3-8256-4F8D-8A59-5E334A28940D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> OK, just pulled a SATA I drive from my HTPC, popped it in the server (same
> board) and it is running fine with appropriate speeds.
>
> Not a board issue.
> Not an OS issue.
> Definitely a drive issue.
>
> RMA has been sent already.
>
> "JSF" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> It is a Maxtor DiamondMax 11 HD, 500GB.
>>
>> "R. C. White" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> > Hi, JSF.
>> >
>> > Would you mind telling us the make and model of your SATA drive?
>> >
>> > RC
>> >
>> > "JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
>> > > Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory,
>> > > nothing
>> > > special.
>> > >
>> > > Latest BIOS.
>> > >
>> > > I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was
>> > > terrible.
>> > >
>> > > (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various
>> > > locations)
>> > >
>> > > Copy from NAS to C: drive
>> > >
>> > > SATA - 3GB/s
>> > > IDE - 10GB/s
>> > >
>> > > Copy from C: drive to D: drive
>> > >
>> > > SATA - 4GB/s
>> > > IDE - 22GB/s
>> > >
>> > > Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
>> > >
>> > > SATA - 16GB/s
>> > >
>> > > Something really weird is going on
>> > >
>> > > These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no
>> > > patches.
>> > > This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I
>> > > thought
>> > > it
>> > > might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
>> > >
>> > > What could possibly be going on?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-29-2008   #8 (permalink)
jules


 
 

Re: Help! SATA drive 1/10th the speed of IDE

Hi,
Please, may somebody explain me why i cant activate the "write caching"
and the "advanced" option with my Samsung SATA HD400LJ, in device manager,
on vista home premium french all updates before sp1 release
(if i am ticking the settings, they wont last after "apply"/"reboot").

i had when upgrading from win xp media center 2005 to vista home premium,
installed the intel's ICH7R chipset driver and Matrix storage utilities(with
a floppy)
My motherboard is an Asus P5WDH Delux bios 1901, E6600.
the samsung sata drive is connected to my motherboard's intel sata
connector.
ps: see the Matrix storage console's report below
regards

System Information
Kit Installed: 7.8.0.1012
Kit Install History: 7.8.0.1012
Shell Version: 7.8.0.1013
OS Name: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Édition Familiale Premium
OS Version: 6.0.6000 Build 6000
System Name: INV
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC.
System Model: P5W DH Deluxe
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 1901 , 01/24/2007
Language: FRA

Serial ATA Information
Intel Serial ATA Controller: Intel(R) 82801GR/GH SATA AHCI Controller
Number of Serial ATA ports: 4
Driver Version: 7.8.0.1012
Serial ATA Plug-In Version: 7.8.0.1013
Language Resource Version of the Serial ATA Plug-In: 7.8.0.1013
ISDI Library Version: 7.8.0.1013
Hard Drive 0
Status: Normal
Device Port: 0
Device Port Location: Internal
Current Serial ATA Transfer Mode: Generation 2
Model: SAMSUNG HD400LJ
Serial Number: S0H2J1WL804780
Firmware: ZZ100-15
Native Command Queuing Support: Yes
Size: 372.6 GB

Unused Port 0
Device Port: 1
Device Port Location: Internal

Unused Port 1
Device Port: 2
Device Port Location: Internal

Unused Port 2
Device Port: 3
Device Port Location: Internal



"JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
news:F6CE9116-CB16-4439-9771-61D9669D220B@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I tried updating with both the vista drivers that came with the board as
>well
> as the vista drivers that were on the GB website. Neither did any
> difference.
>
> In device manager the write caching is turned on and even the advanced
> selection is chosen, no luck.
>
> The same sata drive can read fast enough to write @ ~16MB/s to a USB
> drive,
> so functionally it can read, just can't write.
>
> "Dustin Harper" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Download the newest drivers for your chipset from the Gigabyte site. See
>> if
>> that helps your transfer speeds.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dustin Harper
>> dharper@xxxxxx
>> http://www.vistarip.com | Vista Resource & Information Page
>>
>>
>> "JSF" <JSF@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:BBF491E2-3B97-4D3D-83CF-2819A4C70D66@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Help, I have a Gigabyte board with an AMD quad core, 2GB memory,
>> > nothing
>> > special.
>> >
>> > Latest BIOS.
>> >
>> > I loaded Vista on a fresh SATA II drive, and the performance was
>> > terrible.
>> >
>> > (All tests use the same 850MB AVI file, copied from various locations)
>> >
>> > Copy from NAS to C: drive
>> >
>> > SATA - 3GB/s
>> > IDE - 10GB/s
>> >
>> > Copy from C: drive to D: drive
>> >
>> > SATA - 4GB/s
>> > IDE - 22GB/s
>> >
>> > Copy from C: drive to USB 2.0 external drive
>> >
>> > SATA - 16GB/s
>> >
>> > Something really weird is going on
>> >
>> > These are fresh installs, right out of the box. No drivers, no
>> > patches.
>> > This all started because my fully configured system was so slow. I
>> > thought
>> > it
>> > might be SW related and wiped the drive clean.
>> >
>> > What could possibly be going on?
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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