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Old 03-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
Microsoft loyalist


 
 

ready boost, urgent!

my computer, running windows vista 32 bit, will not use ready boost properly,
as i have a 1 gigabyte jumpdrive plugged into your standard USB 2.0 slot.
Every time, however, i go to use ready boost on the formatted lank drive, it
pops up this device will not work as a ready boost device, or something along
those lines. Help please!

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Old 03-17-2008   #2 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Without any specs on your jumpdrive's make and model I'm just guessing here, but it is more than likely that the drive you are attempting to use does not meet the minimum I/O performance requirements for it to be "ready boostable." Vista won't let you use a drive if it doesn't measure up to the minimum read/write throughput speeds because doing so could actually degrade the overall performance of your virtual memory (there are ways to force Vista to use it anyway, but it is not recommended).

You might want to have a peek at this Ready Boost FAQ - Tom Archer's Blog : ReadyBoost Q&A

Long story short is you probably need to get a faster thumb drive (but if it were me I'd probably just add some more RAM and be done with it).
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Old 03-18-2008   #3 (permalink)
RalfG


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Adding more RAM is ideal but a 1Gig thumb drive can be had for under $10
while for some of us upgrading RAM from 1Gig to 2Gig can cost well over
$100. Sometimes upgrading isn't just a matter of adding RAM but replacing
the existing RAM modules entirely. Thumb drives that are certified
Readyboost capable do tend to be the more pricey ones.

"mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36fwaz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Without any specs on your jumpdrive's make and model I'm just guessing
> here, but it is more than likely that the drive you are attempting to
> use does not meet the minimum I/O performance requirements for it to be
> "ready boostable." Vista won't let you use a drive if it doesn't measure
> up to the minimum read/write throughput speeds because doing so could
> actually degrade the overall performance of your virtual memory (there
> are ways to force Vista to use it anyway, but it is not recommended).
>
> You might want to have a peek at this Ready Boost FAQ - 'Tom Archer's
> Blog : ReadyBoost Q&A'
> (http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx)
>
> Long story short is you probably need to get a faster thumb drive (but
> if it were me I'd probably just add some more RAM and be done with it).
>
>
> --
> mkprilliman
>
> - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
> - MSI P6N Diamond
> - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
> - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
> - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
> - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
> - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
> - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
> - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
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Old 03-18-2008   #4 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Using ReadyBoost is not an alternative to adding ram. It is an alternative
to waiting while the system pages memory to the page file on the hard drive.
The system becomes more responsive.

"RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E0850455-B472-4C6A-B98C-920D228E21D1@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Adding more RAM is ideal but a 1Gig thumb drive can be had for under $10
> while for some of us upgrading RAM from 1Gig to 2Gig can cost well over
> $100. Sometimes upgrading isn't just a matter of adding RAM but replacing
> the existing RAM modules entirely. Thumb drives that are certified
> Readyboost capable do tend to be the more pricey ones.
>
> "mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36fwaz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:mkprilliman.36fwaz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>>
>> Without any specs on your jumpdrive's make and model I'm just guessing
>> here, but it is more than likely that the drive you are attempting to
>> use does not meet the minimum I/O performance requirements for it to be
>> "ready boostable." Vista won't let you use a drive if it doesn't measure
>> up to the minimum read/write throughput speeds because doing so could
>> actually degrade the overall performance of your virtual memory (there
>> are ways to force Vista to use it anyway, but it is not recommended).
>>
>> You might want to have a peek at this Ready Boost FAQ - 'Tom Archer's
>> Blog : ReadyBoost Q&A'
>> (http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx)
>>
>> Long story short is you probably need to get a faster thumb drive (but
>> if it were me I'd probably just add some more RAM and be done with it).
>>
>>
>> --
>> mkprilliman
>>
>> - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
>> - MSI P6N Diamond
>> - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
>> - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
>> - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
>> - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
>> - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
>> - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
>> - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
>
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Old 03-18-2008   #5 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Yes, ReadyBoost is simply a pagefile cache used for when quick, random reads are required. But given sufficient RAM, the system will not need to page, and this is why adding enough RAM eventually makes ReadyBoost a moot point.

As for memory prices, I just purchased 2x1GB of Corsair PC-6400 last week for a grand total of $23 (after rebate). I suppose I could buy a ReadyBoost rated thumbdrive for that price if I looked around enough, but I'm not sure I'd use it for anything other than file synch duties since all my apps would be living in main memory, and the RB stick would have nothing to do...
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Old 03-18-2008   #6 (permalink)
RalfG


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Understood, but in some circumstances that extra responsiveness makes all
the difference that's required.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47B1DFB2-B12E-4C76-B6F8-C49103ECE972@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Using ReadyBoost is not an alternative to adding ram. It is an
> alternative to waiting while the system pages memory to the page file on
> the hard drive. The system becomes more responsive.
>
> "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:E0850455-B472-4C6A-B98C-920D228E21D1@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Adding more RAM is ideal but a 1Gig thumb drive can be had for under $10
>> while for some of us upgrading RAM from 1Gig to 2Gig can cost well over
>> $100. Sometimes upgrading isn't just a matter of adding RAM but replacing
>> the existing RAM modules entirely. Thumb drives that are certified
>> Readyboost capable do tend to be the more pricey ones.
>>
>> "mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36fwaz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:mkprilliman.36fwaz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>>>
>>> Without any specs on your jumpdrive's make and model I'm just guessing
>>> here, but it is more than likely that the drive you are attempting to
>>> use does not meet the minimum I/O performance requirements for it to be
>>> "ready boostable." Vista won't let you use a drive if it doesn't measure
>>> up to the minimum read/write throughput speeds because doing so could
>>> actually degrade the overall performance of your virtual memory (there
>>> are ways to force Vista to use it anyway, but it is not recommended).
>>>
>>> You might want to have a peek at this Ready Boost FAQ - 'Tom Archer's
>>> Blog : ReadyBoost Q&A'
>>> (http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx)
>>>
>>> Long story short is you probably need to get a faster thumb drive (but
>>> if it were me I'd probably just add some more RAM and be done with it).
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> mkprilliman
>>>
>>> - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
>>> - MSI P6N Diamond
>>> - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
>>> - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
>>> - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
>>> - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
>>> - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
>>> - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
>>> - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
>>
>
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Old 03-18-2008   #7 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

I totally agree. If you have a ReadyBoost capable flash drive, by all means plug it in and give it a shot - it can't hurt to try. I just wanted to point out that your mileage may vary with ReadyBoost, and that your nifty new hot rod thumb drive may be put to better use if you already have enough memory to eliminate any significant paging.

In my personal experience, the combination of Vista's SuperFetch and 2 gigs or more of memory will virtually eliminate any performance gains offered by ReadyBoost. My 4GB jumpdrive holds mp3s now...


Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by RalfG View Post
Understood, but in some circumstances that extra responsiveness makes all
the difference that's required.

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47B1DFB2-B12E-4C76-B6F8-C49103ECE972@xxxxxx
Quote:
> Using ReadyBoost is not an alternative to adding ram. It is an
> alternative to waiting while the system pages memory to the page file on
> the hard drive. The system becomes more responsive.
>
> "RalfG" <itsnotme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:E0850455-B472-4C6A-B98C-920D228E21D1@xxxxxx
>
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Old 03-18-2008   #8 (permalink)
JW


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Ready Boost also provides support for SuperFetch prior to its acting as
cache for the paging file since for the first 90 seconds of boot time it
records the programs used and supplies updates the files used for
SuperFetch.

http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx

"mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
news:mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>
> Yes, ReadyBoost is simply a pagefile cache used for when quick, random
> reads are required. But given sufficient RAM, the system will not need
> to page, and this is why adding enough RAM eventually makes ReadyBoost a
> moot point.
>
> As for memory prices, I just purchased 2x1GB of Corsair PC-6400 last
> week for a grand total of $23 (after rebate). I suppose I could buy a
> ReadyBoost rated thumbdrive for that price if I looked around enough,
> but I'm not sure I'd use it for anything other than file synch duties
> since all my apps would be living in main memory, and the RB stick would
> have nothing to do...
>
>
> --
> mkprilliman
>
> - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
> - MSI P6N Diamond
> - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
> - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
> - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
> - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
> - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
> - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
> - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-18-2008   #9 (permalink)
Microsoft loyalist


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

Problem solved, thanks for all your help, i got ready boost to work without
blowing MORE cash on more ram

"JW" wrote:
Quote:

> Ready Boost also provides support for SuperFetch prior to its acting as
> cache for the paging file since for the first 90 seconds of boot time it
> records the programs used and supplies updates the files used for
> SuperFetch.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx
>
> "mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

> >
> > Yes, ReadyBoost is simply a pagefile cache used for when quick, random
> > reads are required. But given sufficient RAM, the system will not need
> > to page, and this is why adding enough RAM eventually makes ReadyBoost a
> > moot point.
> >
> > As for memory prices, I just purchased 2x1GB of Corsair PC-6400 last
> > week for a grand total of $23 (after rebate). I suppose I could buy a
> > ReadyBoost rated thumbdrive for that price if I looked around enough,
> > but I'm not sure I'd use it for anything other than file synch duties
> > since all my apps would be living in main memory, and the RB stick would
> > have nothing to do...
> >
> >
> > --
> > mkprilliman
> >
> > - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
> > - MSI P6N Diamond
> > - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
> > - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
> > - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
> > - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
> > - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
> > - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
> > - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-21-2008   #10 (permalink)
Howard Woodard


 
 

Re: ready boost, urgent!

How did you get it to work?

I've had a flash drive running ReadyBoost just fine for a while and then
yesterday noticed that it didn't seem to ever be flashing the LED on the
drive. When I looked at the properties it had started reporting that the
flash drive wasn't fast enough to support ReadyBoost.

I'd be interested in knowing what you did to re-enable yours.

Thanks in advance,

Howard
=====================================

"Microsoft loyalist" <Microsoftloyalist@xxxxxx> wrote in
message news:93BE90BC-0833-48BB-9DF4-EB4000980E49@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Problem solved, thanks for all your help, i got ready boost to work
> without
> blowing MORE cash on more ram
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Ready Boost also provides support for SuperFetch prior to its acting as
>> cache for the paging file since for the first 90 seconds of boot time it
>> records the programs used and supplies updates the files used for
>> SuperFetch.
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/tomarcher/arch...02/615199.aspx
>>
>> "mkprilliman" <mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
>> news:mkprilliman.36h2nz@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

>> >
>> > Yes, ReadyBoost is simply a pagefile cache used for when quick, random
>> > reads are required. But given sufficient RAM, the system will not need
>> > to page, and this is why adding enough RAM eventually makes ReadyBoost
>> > a
>> > moot point.
>> >
>> > As for memory prices, I just purchased 2x1GB of Corsair PC-6400 last
>> > week for a grand total of $23 (after rebate). I suppose I could buy a
>> > ReadyBoost rated thumbdrive for that price if I looked around enough,
>> > but I'm not sure I'd use it for anything other than file synch duties
>> > since all my apps would be living in main memory, and the RB stick
>> > would
>> > have nothing to do...
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > mkprilliman
>> >
>> > - Core 2 Quad Q6600 (O.C. to 2.8 Ghz)
>> > - MSI P6N Diamond
>> > - Onboard Creative X-Fi 7.1
>> > - 4 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
>> > - 2 x MSI NX8600GTS (256 MB)
>> > - 150 GB WD Raptor (system drive)
>> > - 2 x 500 GB Barracudas (RAID 0)
>> > - 1 x Dell 2407WFP surrounded by 2 x Dell 2001FPs
>> > - Logitech Z-5500http://blog.prilliman.com
>>
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