Vista - Wireless connection stopped working

11-20-2008

By saying 'Intel wireless application' do you mean download the latest
drivers for the wireless card or is there some other software running the
wireless access to the internet?

"Timothy Davis [MSFT]" <tidavis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7E108AC7-E8DE-42ED-87BA-2DB5A2BF70C6@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I found a very similar issue with my wife's corporate computer on our home
>network.
>
> The issue turned out to be the Intel wireless application installed which
> overrides the Windows wireless applet. After installing a driver update
> from Intel - this issue was resolved.
>
> Had to use Locksmith to get admin access, but that is another story.
>
>
> "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uIlkEF0SJHA.1164@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I won't be over there for a couple of weeks so will continue this thread
>>then - or maybe a new thread if this is buried too deep. Thanks for the
>>suggestions so far...
>>
>> "Lem" <lemp40@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eQWT%23ezSJHA.1164@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>>M Skabialka wrote:
>>>> I think this is the help menu I found:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Open the Command Prompt window by clicking the Start button ,
>>>> clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, and then clicking Command
>>>> Prompt.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Type netsh wlan add filter networktype=network type.
>>>>
>>>> Where network type is either adhoc or infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was unsure of the network type (still am) so tried both adhoc
>>>> and infrastructure but neither worked. Did this mess things up?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Could have. You shouldn't need to add filters. An "ad hoc" network is a
>>> computer-to-computer network; this won't work with your router. I don't
>>> know what the command you typed here will do because you omitted the
>>> actual filter itself (i.e., permission={allow|block| denyall}).
>>>
>>> To see how things are configured:
>>> In an account with administrative privileges, open a Command Prompt
>>> window. Then type "netsh show all" [without quotes, press Enter]
>>> Copy/paste the results into your next post.
>>>
>>> Or you could delete the profile and start over (but I think you have to
>>> use netsh for this task).
>>>
>>> netsh show profiles [to make sure you get the correct ProfileName]
>>>
>>> netsh delete profile name=ProfileName
>>>
>>> --
>>> Lem -- MS-MVP
>>>
>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm

>>
>>

>

11-20-2008

Well, both really.

Many devices can be installed with just the driver, or with a bundled
application. With just the driver, Windows will use the built in Wireless
control application to find and configure wireless networks.

But there are 3rd party applications that disable the Microsoft wireless
applet, and use their own.

Example:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21

On this link, you have the drivers - and then you have the software
connection applications. Even if you have the latest and greatest drivers,
if you are using an old version of the software configuration, you may not
be able to see or connect to access points.

What I would do in your situation is to uninstall any 3rd party wireless
managers, uninstall the device driver (and click the 'remove driver files'
checkbox), and then go to the manufucturers website and find the latest
drivers/utilities for the device and install them.

Also, as Lem suggested, you might want to try configuring the wireless
network without security, and seeing if you can connect.

As a fellow geek, I feel your pain in this situation. FSM knows how many
times I have made the situation worse after trying to fix a problem.

This video always makes me feel better, though:

http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/

"M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eukAQT1SJHA.4680@xxxxxx

Quote:

> By saying 'Intel wireless application' do you mean download the latest
> drivers for the wireless card or is there some other software running the
> wireless access to the internet?
>
> "Timothy Davis [MSFT]" <tidavis@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:7E108AC7-E8DE-42ED-87BA-2DB5A2BF70C6@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I found a very similar issue with my wife's corporate computer on our home
>>network.
>>
>> The issue turned out to be the Intel wireless application installed which
>> overrides the Windows wireless applet. After installing a driver update
>> from Intel - this issue was resolved.
>>
>> Had to use Locksmith to get admin access, but that is another story.
>>
>>
>> "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uIlkEF0SJHA.1164@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>>I won't be over there for a couple of weeks so will continue this thread
>>>then - or maybe a new thread if this is buried too deep. Thanks for the
>>>suggestions so far...
>>>
>>> "Lem" <lemp40@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eQWT%23ezSJHA.1164@xxxxxx
>>>>M Skabialka wrote:
>>>>> I think this is the help menu I found:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Open the Command Prompt window by clicking the Start button ,
>>>>> clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, and then clicking Command
>>>>> Prompt.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Type netsh wlan add filter networktype=network type.
>>>>>
>>>>> Where network type is either adhoc or infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was unsure of the network type (still am) so tried both adhoc
>>>>> and infrastructure but neither worked. Did this mess things up?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could have. You shouldn't need to add filters. An "ad hoc" network is a
>>>> computer-to-computer network; this won't work with your router. I don't
>>>> know what the command you typed here will do because you omitted the
>>>> actual filter itself (i.e., permission={allow|block| denyall}).
>>>>
>>>> To see how things are configured:
>>>> In an account with administrative privileges, open a Command Prompt
>>>> window. Then type "netsh show all" [without quotes, press Enter]
>>>> Copy/paste the results into your next post.
>>>>
>>>> Or you could delete the profile and start over (but I think you have to
>>>> use netsh for this task).
>>>>
>>>> netsh show profiles [to make sure you get the correct ProfileName]
>>>>
>>>> netsh delete profile name=ProfileName
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lem -- MS-MVP
>>>>
>>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
>>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

11-20-2008	#11 (permalink)
M Skabialka n/a posts	Re: Wireless connection stopped working By saying 'Intel wireless application' do you mean download the latest drivers for the wireless card or is there some other software running the wireless access to the internet? "Timothy Davis [MSFT]" <tidavis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7E108AC7-E8DE-42ED-87BA-2DB5A2BF70C6@xxxxxx Quote: >I found a very similar issue with my wife's corporate computer on our home >network. > > The issue turned out to be the Intel wireless application installed which > overrides the Windows wireless applet. After installing a driver update > from Intel - this issue was resolved. > > Had to use Locksmith to get admin access, but that is another story. > > > "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uIlkEF0SJHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: >>I won't be over there for a couple of weeks so will continue this thread >>then - or maybe a new thread if this is buried too deep. Thanks for the >>suggestions so far... >> >> "Lem" <lemp40@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:eQWT%23ezSJHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: >>>M Skabialka wrote: >>>> I think this is the help menu I found: >>>> >>>> 1. Open the Command Prompt window by clicking the Start button , >>>> clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, and then clicking Command >>>> Prompt. >>>> >>>> 2. Type netsh wlan add filter networktype=network type. >>>> >>>> Where network type is either adhoc or infrastructure. >>>> >>>> >>>> I was unsure of the network type (still am) so tried both adhoc >>>> and infrastructure but neither worked. Did this mess things up? >>>> >>> >>> Could have. You shouldn't need to add filters. An "ad hoc" network is a >>> computer-to-computer network; this won't work with your router. I don't >>> know what the command you typed here will do because you omitted the >>> actual filter itself (i.e., permission={allow\|block\| denyall}). >>> >>> To see how things are configured: >>> In an account with administrative privileges, open a Command Prompt >>> window. Then type "netsh show all" [without quotes, press Enter] >>> Copy/paste the results into your next post. >>> >>> Or you could delete the profile and start over (but I think you have to >>> use netsh for this task). >>> >>> netsh show profiles [to make sure you get the correct ProfileName] >>> >>> netsh delete profile name=ProfileName >>> >>> -- >>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>> >>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >> >> >
My System Specs

11-20-2008	#12 (permalink)
Timothy Davis [MSFT] n/a posts	Re: Wireless connection stopped working Well, both really. Many devices can be installed with just the driver, or with a bundled application. With just the driver, Windows will use the built in Wireless control application to find and configure wireless networks. But there are 3rd party applications that disable the Microsoft wireless applet, and use their own. Example: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...4&submit=Go%21 On this link, you have the drivers - and then you have the software connection applications. Even if you have the latest and greatest drivers, if you are using an old version of the software configuration, you may not be able to see or connect to access points. What I would do in your situation is to uninstall any 3rd party wireless managers, uninstall the device driver (and click the 'remove driver files' checkbox), and then go to the manufucturers website and find the latest drivers/utilities for the device and install them. Also, as Lem suggested, you might want to try configuring the wireless network without security, and seeing if you can connect. As a fellow geek, I feel your pain in this situation. FSM knows how many times I have made the situation worse after trying to fix a problem. This video always makes me feel better, though: http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eukAQT1SJHA.4680@xxxxxx Quote: > By saying 'Intel wireless application' do you mean download the latest > drivers for the wireless card or is there some other software running the > wireless access to the internet? > > "Timothy Davis [MSFT]" <tidavis@xxxxxx> wrote in > message news:7E108AC7-E8DE-42ED-87BA-2DB5A2BF70C6@xxxxxx Quote: >>I found a very similar issue with my wife's corporate computer on our home >>network. >> >> The issue turned out to be the Intel wireless application installed which >> overrides the Windows wireless applet. After installing a driver update >> from Intel - this issue was resolved. >> >> Had to use Locksmith to get admin access, but that is another story. >> >> >> "M Skabialka" <mskabialka@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:uIlkEF0SJHA.1164@xxxxxx Quote: >>>I won't be over there for a couple of weeks so will continue this thread >>>then - or maybe a new thread if this is buried too deep. Thanks for the >>>suggestions so far... >>> >>> "Lem" <lemp40@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:eQWT%23ezSJHA.1164@xxxxxx >>>>M Skabialka wrote: >>>>> I think this is the help menu I found: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Open the Command Prompt window by clicking the Start button , >>>>> clicking All Programs, clicking Accessories, and then clicking Command >>>>> Prompt. >>>>> >>>>> 2. Type netsh wlan add filter networktype=network type. >>>>> >>>>> Where network type is either adhoc or infrastructure. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was unsure of the network type (still am) so tried both adhoc >>>>> and infrastructure but neither worked. Did this mess things up? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Could have. You shouldn't need to add filters. An "ad hoc" network is a >>>> computer-to-computer network; this won't work with your router. I don't >>>> know what the command you typed here will do because you omitted the >>>> actual filter itself (i.e., permission={allow\|block\| denyall}). >>>> >>>> To see how things are configured: >>>> In an account with administrative privileges, open a Command Prompt >>>> window. Then type "netsh show all" [without quotes, press Enter] >>>> Copy/paste the results into your next post. >>>> >>>> Or you could delete the profile and start over (but I think you have to >>>> use netsh for this task). >>>> >>>> netsh show profiles [to make sure you get the correct ProfileName] >>>> >>>> netsh delete profile name=ProfileName >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lem -- MS-MVP >>>> >>>> To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer >>>> http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm >>> >>> >> > >
My System Specs

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