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| | Vista - How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? |
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| 12-07-2008 | #1 |
| | How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid of all the junk between tracks. I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do a full format. Vista comes back immediately with, "windows was unable to complete the format." Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine and it now formats fine. Same results with six different floppies. Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes with vista. Help??? |
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| 12-07-2008 | #2 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx Quote: >I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid > of all the junk between tracks. > I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do > a full format. > Vista comes back immediately with, > "windows was unable to complete the format." > > Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. > Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine > and it now formats fine. > > Same results with six different floppies. > > Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP > machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes > with vista. > > Help??? It is not worth the trouble. You will not get a Vista machine fitted with a floppy drive unless you specifically ask for one.. Get yourself a flash drive to replace the floppies.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| 12-07-2008 | #3 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx_mvps.com> wrote in message news:eJYGqnHWJHA.3688@xxxxxx Quote: > "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx Quote: > >I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid > > of all the junk between tracks. > > I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do > > a full format. > > Vista comes back immediately with, > > "windows was unable to complete the format." > > > > Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. > > Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine > > and it now formats fine. > > > > Same results with six different floppies. > > > > Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP > > machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes > > with vista. > > > > Help??? > > It is not worth the trouble. You will not get a Vista machine fitted with a > floppy drive unless you specifically ask for one.. > > Get yourself a flash drive to replace the floppies.. eraser and manually erase the floppies, chances are he NEEDS this functionality for some reason. It is not our place to fix his problem by just saying "don't do that..." to the OP- Does Vista read formatted floppies with data on them OK? Quote: > > > -- > Mike Hall - MVP > How to construct a good post.. > http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm > How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. > http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc > Mike's Window - My Blog.. > http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx > > > > |
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| 12-07-2008 | #4 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? V Green wrote: Quote: > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx_mvps.com> wrote in message > news:eJYGqnHWJHA.3688@xxxxxx Quote: >> "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid >>> of all the junk between tracks. >>> I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do >>> a full format. >>> Vista comes back immediately with, >>> "windows was unable to complete the format." >>> >>> Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. >>> Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine >>> and it now formats fine. >>> >>> Same results with six different floppies. >>> >>> Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP >>> machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes >>> with vista. >>> >>> Help??? >> It is not worth the trouble. You will not get a Vista machine fitted with a >> floppy drive unless you specifically ask for one.. >> >> Get yourself a flash drive to replace the floppies.. > Mike, if the guy went to all the trouble to get a bulk > eraser and manually erase the floppies, chances are he > NEEDS this functionality for some reason. It is not our > place to fix his problem by just saying "don't do that..." exclusively. The main reason for this whole thing is that the win2K usb drivers aren't working and I can't figure out a way to get them loaded. Hardware works, cause Acronis can see the files on the thumb drive that I'm gonna use to restore the OS...which is why I need six boot floppies. Quote: > > to the OP- > > Does Vista read formatted floppies with data on them OK? > floppies just fine. Didn't discover the problem until I had to make a set of boot floppies for an OLD laptop. Bulk erased the floppies, cause if there's slight misalignment if the heads, as there always is with mechanically aligned floppy drives, you get noise. This is one of those can't get there from here jump thru hoops to get The OS installed on a laptop with no CD and usb drivers not working. I've only got one shot at getting it right...if it aborts in the middle, I'll have to disassemble the thing to get the hard drive out. Bottom line is that there are still uses for floppies on old hardware. |
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| 12-07-2008 | #5 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx Quote: >I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid > of all the junk between tracks. > I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do > a full format. > Vista comes back immediately with, > "windows was unable to complete the format." > > Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. > Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine > and it now formats fine. > > Same results with six different floppies. > > Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP > machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes > with vista. > > Help??? Locate the 'Command Prompt', open it and at the cursor, type format a: Vista doesn't cope with floppies to well from its GUI. How old is the floppy drive? It may have dust in it, or maybe Vista doesn't consider that the heads align well enough to be entrusted to format a floppy. I have the same problem with my machine, but I have stopped using floppies now.. -- Mike Hall - MVP How to construct a good post.. http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups.. http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc Mike's Window - My Blog.. http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx |
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| 12-07-2008 | #6 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ghgr9t$r4c$1@xxxxxx Quote: > V Green wrote: Quote: > > "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@xxxxxx_mvps.com> wrote in message > > news:eJYGqnHWJHA.3688@xxxxxx Quote: > >> "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx > >>> I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid > >>> of all the junk between tracks. > >>> I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do > >>> a full format. > >>> Vista comes back immediately with, > >>> "windows was unable to complete the format." > >>> > >>> Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. > >>> Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine > >>> and it now formats fine. > >>> > >>> Same results with six different floppies. > >>> > >>> Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP > >>> machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes > >>> with vista. > >>> > >>> Help??? > >> > >> It is not worth the trouble. You will not get a Vista machine fitted with a > >> floppy drive unless you specifically ask for one.. > >> > >> Get yourself a flash drive to replace the floppies.. > > Mike, if the guy went to all the trouble to get a bulk > > eraser and manually erase the floppies, chances are he > > NEEDS this functionality for some reason. It is not our > > place to fix his problem by just saying "don't do that..." > Thanks for defending me. Not everybody has modern hardware > exclusively. The main reason for this whole thing is that > the win2K usb drivers aren't working and I can't figure out a way to > get them loaded. Hardware works, cause Acronis can see the files > on the thumb drive that I'm gonna use to restore the OS...which > is why I need six boot floppies. Quote: > > > > to the OP- > > > > Does Vista read formatted floppies with data on them OK? > > > Yep, vista reads/writes floppies just fine. Reformats already formatted > floppies just fine. Didn't discover the problem until I had to make > a set of boot floppies for an OLD laptop. Bulk erased the floppies, > cause if there's slight misalignment if the heads, as there always is with > mechanically aligned floppy drives, you get noise. This is one of > those can't get there from here jump thru hoops to get The OS installed > on a laptop with no CD and usb drivers not working. I've only got one > shot at getting it right...if it aborts in the middle, I'll have to > disassemble the thing to get the hard drive out. > > Bottom line is that there are still uses for floppies on old hardware. Try Mike's idea of formatting from a command prompt. If that doesn't work, do you still have a DOS bootable floppy around? If you do, boot it and run FORMAT from there. |
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| 12-08-2008 | #7 |
| | Re: How do you format a demagnetized floppy in Vista? Mike Hall - MVP wrote: Quote: > "spamme0" <spamme9@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ghgm8q$b86$1@xxxxxx Quote: >> I bulk-erased, degaussed a batch of floppies to get rid >> of all the junk between tracks. >> I stick it in my Vista Ultimate SP1 machine and try do do >> a full format. >> Vista comes back immediately with, >> "windows was unable to complete the format." >> >> Stick it in my XP machine and it formats fine. >> Put the formatted diskette back in the Vista machine >> and it now formats fine. >> >> Same results with six different floppies. >> >> Looking ahead to eventually decommissioning the XP >> machine...I'd like to be able to format bulk-erased floppy diskettes >> with vista. >> >> Help??? > > Locate the 'Command Prompt', open it and at the cursor, type > > format a: That works...DOS, 1....Vista, 0... Having a DOS workaround that doesn't require rebooting gets me there. Quote: > > Vista doesn't cope with floppies to well from its GUI. I'm very annoyed when each version of M$OS renders much of my existing software and hardware unusable. GRRRRR!! How old is the Quote: > floppy drive? It may have dust in it, I'm sure it does, but dos and xp and linux don't care. or maybe Vista doesn't consider Quote: > that the heads align well enough to be entrusted to format a floppy. I say Vista is busted. You say, no, Vista is so smart that it prevents me from using my hardware, for my own benefit, of course... My 3.5" floppy drive uses a stepper motor and open-loop head positioning when formatting. If the diskette has been degaussed, there are no tracks to read, so the OS format command has no way to determine head alignment goodness. If I were on the OS evaluation team, my bug report would suggest that if the Vista floppy format command can't read a header, it should time out and proceed to a raw format...just like the dos command does. Quote: > > I have the same problem with my machine, but I have stopped using > floppies now.. But there are still tasks where only floppies will do. Not using floppies should be a personal choice, not because the operating system is busted. |
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