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| | #11 (permalink) |
| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista Thanks, that sounds interesting. My problem is that I cannot see the drive in "Computer", so I cannot carry out any of the stuff about taking ownership as suggested on various forums. The drive is formatted under NTFS as you guessed, but using a different PC running XP, which I guess is causing the problem in Vista. Would it be an idea to reconnect the drive to the old PC and somehow wipe it clean without actually formatting it, then format it as if from new on the Vista machine? Can you actually do this? Sorry if this sounds ignorant? Andy G "David Vair" <dvair@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eRI8oAdcJHA.3692@xxxxxx Quote: > If it was formatted with NTFS there may be some ownership issues. Google > taking ownership of a drive and there are several step by step > walkthroughs to show how to take ownership of the drive. > > -- > David Vair > CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ > > |
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| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista OK, I'm finding this hard to believe, after several months fruitless effort, but it seems to be fixed. As I said in my previous post, it had reverted and I could not do anything with it, but your suggestion got me thinking and it seemed to be the way to go. So I reconnected the drive to the old PC running XP, deleted the partition and created a new one but did not format it. Then I connected the drive to the new Vista machine and formatted it. It now behaves totally as expected, shows up everywhere and allows full access. Thank you so much for your suggestions. Cheers Andy G. "GTS" <x@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u8GB10ccJHA.5092@xxxxxx Quote: > You're welcome. I suggest you now delete both partitions (Volumes), > create a new partition and then format it. I think you can probably do it > all in Vista, but if any problem, delete them on the XP machine. > -- > > |
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| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista OK, I'm finding this hard to believe, after several months fruitless effort, but it seems to be fixed. I reconnected the drive to the old PC running XP, deleted the partition and created a new one but did not format it. Then I connected the drive to the new Vista machine and formatted it. It now behaves totally as expected, shows up everywhere and allows full access. Probably obvious stuff to you but us mortals find it hard to sort the wheat from the chaff when faced with uncooperative hardware... But why did Vista not like the XP formatting. It's all NTFS? Anyway, many thanks for your help. Andy G. "David Vair" <dvair@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eRI8oAdcJHA.3692@xxxxxx Quote: > If it was formatted with NTFS there may be some ownership issues. Google > taking ownership of a drive and there are several step by step > walkthroughs to show how to take ownership of the drive. > > -- > David Vair > CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ > > |
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| | #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista NTFS has a lot to do with it. When you first create the volume it is given access permissions based on the machine and user it was created on. When switched over to a different machine the access permissions are what is causing the new machine not to see the volume. -- David Vair CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ "Andy G" <georgi66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OWIxoQocJHA.1704@xxxxxx Quote: > OK, I'm finding this hard to believe, after several months fruitless > effort, > but it seems to be fixed. I reconnected the drive to the old PC > running XP, deleted the partition and created a new one but did not format > it. Then I connected the drive to the new Vista machine and formatted it. > It now behaves totally as expected, shows up everywhere and allows full > access. > > Probably obvious stuff to you but us mortals find it hard to sort the > wheat from the chaff when faced with uncooperative hardware... But why > did Vista not like the XP formatting. It's all NTFS? > > Anyway, many thanks for your help. > > Andy G. > > > "David Vair" <dvair@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:eRI8oAdcJHA.3692@xxxxxx Quote: >> If it was formatted with NTFS there may be some ownership issues. Google >> taking ownership of a drive and there are several step by step >> walkthroughs to show how to take ownership of the drive. >> >> -- >> David Vair >> CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ >> >> |
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| | #15 (permalink) |
| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista You're welcome. I'm glad to hear it worked out. -- "Andy G" <georgi66@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23a6JMMocJHA.5412@xxxxxx Quote: > OK, I'm finding this hard to believe, after several months fruitless > effort, but it seems to be fixed. As I said in my previous post, it had > reverted and I could not do anything with it, but your suggestion got me > thinking and it seemed to be the way to go. So I reconnected the drive to > the old PC running XP, deleted the partition and created a new one but did > not format it. Then I connected the drive to the new Vista machine and > formatted it. It now behaves totally as expected, shows up everywhere and > allows full access. > > Thank you so much for your suggestions. > > Cheers > > Andy G. > > > > "GTS" <x@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:u8GB10ccJHA.5092@xxxxxx Quote: >> You're welcome. I suggest you now delete both partitions (Volumes), >> create a new partition and then format it. I think you can probably do >> it all in Vista, but if any problem, delete them on the XP machine. >> -- >> >> |
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| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista David, I'm admittedly puzzled what happened for Andy G, but I'm not sure your assessment is accurate. NTFS permissions are applied on a file and folder (which is also a file strictly speaking) basis and not on the volume per se. I don't know how many XP formatted drives I've connected by USB to my Vista system for service purposes (certainly dozens) and have never seen a problem recognizing a volume because of permissions. (I have often had to take ownership of files on the drive to access them, but that's to be expected and a different issue.) I have seen some odd issues with certain USB adaptors, though, that seem to work unpredictably. Perhaps that's involved. GTS -- "David Vair" <dvair@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eZNLf$ocJHA.1532@xxxxxx Quote: > NTFS has a lot to do with it. When you first create the volume it is > given access permissions based on the machine and user it was created on. > When switched over to a different machine the access permissions are what > is causing the new machine not to see the volume. > -- > David Vair > CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ > > > "Andy G" <georgi66@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:OWIxoQocJHA.1704@xxxxxx Quote: >> OK, I'm finding this hard to believe, after several months fruitless >> effort, >> but it seems to be fixed. I reconnected the drive to the old PC >> running XP, deleted the partition and created a new one but did not >> format >> it. Then I connected the drive to the new Vista machine and formatted >> it. >> It now behaves totally as expected, shows up everywhere and allows full >> access. >> >> Probably obvious stuff to you but us mortals find it hard to sort the >> wheat from the chaff when faced with uncooperative hardware... But why >> did Vista not like the XP formatting. It's all NTFS? >> >> Anyway, many thanks for your help. >> >> Andy G. >> >> >> "David Vair" <dvair@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:eRI8oAdcJHA.3692@xxxxxx Quote: >>> If it was formatted with NTFS there may be some ownership issues. >>> Google taking ownership of a drive and there are several step by step >>> walkthroughs to show how to take ownership of the drive. >>> >>> -- >>> David Vair >>> CNE, CNA, MCP, A+, N+ >>> >>> |
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| | #17 (permalink) |
| | Re: WD external drive works with XP, not with Vista If it sheds any light, I should add that I've had other problems involving USB connected items, but also involving drivers where I would not expect a problem. For example, ever since a failed SP1 install, every time I boot up, system tries to find drivers for the integral DVD drive. It always fails to find any, but then the drive works anyway. Also an iPod and iPod Shuffle were never recognised by iTunes under Vista, but worked fine on previous machine with XP. Another problem, system will not recognise an HP flash drive, (it's an HP laptop by the way!), which worked perfectly under XP. The good news is that since applying your registry hack and the rebuild of infcache.1 all of these problems have been resolved! I now have a system working OK on all fronts, which I have never had since buying the new Vista machine 11 months ago. Going back to the external hard drive, it certainly seemed odd to me as an ordinary user, that an external hard drive would be prohibited from being moved from one PC to another. After all, what would be the point of using it for backups, if you could not restore to a new machine if the first had a catastrophic hardware failure? Andy G "GTS" <x@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Osx6b7pcJHA.556@xxxxxx Quote: > David, > > I'm admittedly puzzled what happened for Andy G, but I'm not sure your > assessment is accurate. NTFS permissions are applied on a file and > folder (which is also a file strictly speaking) basis and not on the > volume per se. I don't know how many XP formatted drives I've connected > by USB to my Vista system for service purposes (certainly dozens) and have > never seen a problem recognizing a volume because of permissions. (I have > often had to take ownership of files on the drive to access them, but > that's to be expected and a different issue.) I have seen some odd > issues with certain USB adaptors, though, that seem to work unpredictably. > Perhaps that's involved. > > GTS > -- |
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