Vista - external hard drive

04-27-2009

I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port your
suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near clock. I have
ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the computer is turned
off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and unplug it without clicking
remove hardware icon without harming device?

Walt

**mikeyb30** · 04-27-2009

yes

04-27-2009

Walt I can't say I've ever ruined a drive by simply pulling the plug. Vista
is supposed to be more 'hot swappable' than XP. In fact I rarely use the
remove hardware button now. However, turning the computer off does allow you
to unplug the device without causing any damage because it effectively shuts
down the disk drive.

I have a Verbatim USB stand alone hard drive now which sits on top of my PC
case. This is permanently connected to the power supply and the USB port,
all I need do is press the switch at the back to turn it on or off. When I
have finished using it I simply press the switch to turn it off and then
unplug the USB if I need to use the drive elsewhere. The disk also shuts
itself off when the PC is powered down (assuming I forget to switch it off
at the back) and then powers itself up again when I switch the computer back
on.

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"Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port your
> suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near clock. I
> have ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the computer is
> turned off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and unplug it without
> clicking remove hardware icon without harming device?
>
> Walt
>

04-27-2009

Walter Goldschmidt wrote:

Quote:

> I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could not
> copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb
> port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same?

It isn't that you ruined the drives physically. It's that you corrupted the
data on them, which is the reason for the "safely remove hardware" thing.
Yes, you can safely unplug them when the computer is turned off.

Malke
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http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

04-27-2009

As Malke has pointed out you haven't physically damaged the drive you have
simply corrupted the data. This has probably been cause by the fact that you
unplugged the drive while data was being written to it.

I use an external drive, but if you also mean a standard hard drive that has
been put into an outer casing with a USB connection, then yes they are
basically the same and yes I do also have one like that and it gets the same
treatment as my other external drive.

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Windows XP Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

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"Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could not
> copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb
> port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same?
>
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23C3T910xJHA.3460@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Walt I can't say I've ever ruined a drive by simply pulling the plug.
>> Vista is supposed to be more 'hot swappable' than XP. In fact I rarely
>> use the remove hardware button now. However, turning the computer off
>> does allow you to unplug the device without causing any damage because it
>> effectively shuts down the disk drive.
>>
>> I have a Verbatim USB stand alone hard drive now which sits on top of my
>> PC case. This is permanently connected to the power supply and the USB
>> port, all I need do is press the switch at the back to turn it on or off.
>> When I have finished using it I simply press the switch to turn it off
>> and then unplug the USB if I need to use the drive elsewhere. The disk
>> also shuts itself off when the PC is powered down (assuming I forget to
>> switch it off at the back) and then powers itself up again when I switch
>> the computer back on.
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Windows XP Associate Expert
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>> Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>>
>> "Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:gt4fdi$2ek$1@xxxxxx-september.org...

Quote:

>>> I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port
>>> your suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near
>>> clock. I have ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the
>>> computer is turned off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and
>>> unplug it without clicking remove hardware icon without harming device?
>>>
>>> Walt
>>>

>

04-27-2009

I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly.

Walt

"Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23W%237yW3xJHA.3476@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Walter Goldschmidt wrote:
>

Quote:

>> I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could
>> not
>> copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb
>> port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same?

>
> It isn't that you ruined the drives physically. It's that you corrupted
> the
> data on them, which is the reason for the "safely remove hardware" thing.
> Yes, you can safely unplug them when the computer is turned off.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>

04-27-2009

Walter Goldschmidt wrote:

Quote:

> I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly.

There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by
reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that you
need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you
attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a
bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it again.
The drive was *physically* fine.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

04-28-2009

How do you delete partitions on a external hard drive. I'm assuming your
telling me to do that first and then format it?

--

Walt
"Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O8HpHr5xJHA.4164@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Walter Goldschmidt wrote:
>

Quote:

>> I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly.

>
> There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by
> reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that
> you
> need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you
> attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a
> bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it
> again.
> The drive was *physically* fine.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>

04-28-2009

You work with an external drive the same as you would work with an internal
drive. Use drive manager! Go to the drive and right click on the visual
representation of the drive. You will see options there. Delete partition /
create partition / format partition.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience

"Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:gt6jan$e1q$1@xxxxxx-september.org...

Quote:

> How do you delete partitions on a external hard drive. I'm assuming your
> telling me to do that first and then format it?
>
> --
>
>
> Walt
> "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O8HpHr5xJHA.4164@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Walter Goldschmidt wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function
>>> properly.

>>
>> There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by
>> reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that
>> you
>> need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you
>> attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a
>> bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it
>> again.
>> The drive was *physically* fine.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>

>

04-28-2009

Richard Urban wrote:

Quote:

> You work with an external drive the same as you would work with an
> internal drive. Use drive manager! Go to the drive and right click on the
> visual representation of the drive. You will see options there. Delete
> partition / create partition / format partition.
>

What Richard said. ;-)

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

04-27-2009	#1 (permalink)
Walter Goldschmidt n/a posts	external hard drive I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port your suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near clock. I have ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the computer is turned off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and unplug it without clicking remove hardware icon without harming device? Walt
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04-27-2009	#2 (permalink)
mikeyb30 vista home premium 32 bit 9 posts	Re: external hard drive yes
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04-27-2009	#3 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP n/a posts	Re: external hard drive Walt I can't say I've ever ruined a drive by simply pulling the plug. Vista is supposed to be more 'hot swappable' than XP. In fact I rarely use the remove hardware button now. However, turning the computer off does allow you to unplug the device without causing any damage because it effectively shuts down the disk drive. I have a Verbatim USB stand alone hard drive now which sits on top of my PC case. This is permanently connected to the power supply and the USB port, all I need do is press the switch at the back to turn it on or off. When I have finished using it I simply press the switch to turn it off and then unplug the USB if I need to use the drive elsewhere. The disk also shuts itself off when the PC is powered down (assuming I forget to switch it off at the back) and then powers itself up again when I switch the computer back on. -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gt4fdi$2ek$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: > I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port your > suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near clock. I > have ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the computer is > turned off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and unplug it without > clicking remove hardware icon without harming device? > > Walt >
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04-27-2009	#4 (permalink)
Malke n/a posts	Re: external hard drive Walter Goldschmidt wrote: Quote: > I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could not > copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb > port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same? It isn't that you ruined the drives physically. It's that you corrupted the data on them, which is the reason for the "safely remove hardware" thing. Yes, you can safely unplug them when the computer is turned off. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
My System Specs

04-27-2009	#5 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP n/a posts	Re: external hard drive As Malke has pointed out you haven't physically damaged the drive you have simply corrupted the data. This has probably been cause by the fact that you unplugged the drive while data was being written to it. I use an external drive, but if you also mean a standard hard drive that has been put into an outer casing with a USB connection, then yes they are basically the same and yes I do also have one like that and it gets the same treatment as my other external drive. -- -- John Barnett MVP Windows XP Associate Expert Windows Desktop Experience Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this mail/post.. "Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gt4m7j$43i$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: > I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could not > copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb > port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same? > > "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23C3T910xJHA.3460@xxxxxx Quote: >> Walt I can't say I've ever ruined a drive by simply pulling the plug. >> Vista is supposed to be more 'hot swappable' than XP. In fact I rarely >> use the remove hardware button now. However, turning the computer off >> does allow you to unplug the device without causing any damage because it >> effectively shuts down the disk drive. >> >> I have a Verbatim USB stand alone hard drive now which sits on top of my >> PC case. This is permanently connected to the power supply and the USB >> port, all I need do is press the switch at the back to turn it on or off. >> When I have finished using it I simply press the switch to turn it off >> and then unplug the USB if I need to use the drive elsewhere. The disk >> also shuts itself off when the PC is powered down (assuming I forget to >> switch it off at the back) and then powers itself up again when I switch >> the computer back on. >> >> -- >> >> -- >> John Barnett MVP >> Windows XP Associate Expert >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> Web: http://www.winuser.co.uk >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org >> Web: http://www.silversurfer-guide.com >> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy, >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable >> for >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of >> the >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this >> mail/post.. >> >> >> "Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:gt4fdi$2ek$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: >>> I have several external hard drives and to remove them from usb port >>> your suppose to double click remove hardware icon in task bar near >>> clock. I have ruined 2 of them by accidentally unplugging them. If the >>> computer is turned off is it a different story. Can you go ahead and >>> unplug it without clicking remove hardware icon without harming device? >>> >>> Walt >>> >
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04-27-2009	#6 (permalink)
Walter Goldschmidt n/a posts	Re: external hard drive I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly. Walt "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23W%237yW3xJHA.3476@xxxxxx Quote: > Walter Goldschmidt wrote: > Quote: >> I've ruined 2 drives by accidently unplugging them. Afterwards I could >> not >> copy some of the files. Do you use a regular hard drive plugged into usb >> port instead of a external hard drive or are they the same? > > It isn't that you ruined the drives physically. It's that you corrupted > the > data on them, which is the reason for the "safely remove hardware" thing. > Yes, you can safely unplug them when the computer is turned off. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >
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04-27-2009	#7 (permalink)
Malke n/a posts	Re: external hard drive Walter Goldschmidt wrote: Quote: > I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly. There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that you need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it again. The drive was physically fine. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
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04-28-2009	#8 (permalink)
Walter Goldschmidt n/a posts	Re: external hard drive How do you delete partitions on a external hard drive. I'm assuming your telling me to do that first and then format it? -- Walt "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O8HpHr5xJHA.4164@xxxxxx Quote: > Walter Goldschmidt wrote: > Quote: >> I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function properly. > > There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by > reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that > you > need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you > attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a > bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it > again. > The drive was physically fine. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >
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04-28-2009	#9 (permalink)
Richard Urban n/a posts	Re: external hard drive You work with an external drive the same as you would work with an internal drive. Use drive manager! Go to the drive and right click on the visual representation of the drive. You will see options there. Delete partition / create partition / format partition. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Walter Goldschmidt" <wgold@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gt6jan$e1q$1@xxxxxx-september.org... Quote: > How do you delete partitions on a external hard drive. I'm assuming your > telling me to do that first and then format it? > > -- > > > Walt > "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O8HpHr5xJHA.4164@xxxxxx Quote: >> Walter Goldschmidt wrote: >> Quote: >>> I tried to format drive afterwords but it still didn't function >>> properly. >> >> There is no way for me to know what you did or the state of the drive by >> reading about it in a newsgroup. I suspect that you didn't realize that >> you >> need to completely delete all partitions and create new ones before you >> attempted a format. I've had an external drive be corrupted and it took a >> bit of doing to get it back in shape so I could format it and use it >> again. >> The drive was physically fine. >> >> Malke >> -- >> MS-MVP >> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! >> http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >> >
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04-28-2009	#10 (permalink)
Malke n/a posts	Re: external hard drive Richard Urban wrote: Quote: > You work with an external drive the same as you would work with an > internal drive. Use drive manager! Go to the drive and right click on the > visual representation of the drive. You will see options there. Delete > partition / create partition / format partition. > What Richard said. ;-) Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
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