Vista - Windows Vista RC1's Lack of Midi Settings?

Why does vista lack the ability to select a midi output device? Midi is not
obsolete, I and many sound artists still use this technology. Microsoft has
limited output to the GS software synth and not provided an easy way to
change it in the sound settings. All I was able to do is right click the
"speakers" and find a midi "about box" for the GS software synth. This is
unacceptable. Is there a registry hack or some other small program with
which to change the default output device or is Microsoft going to get sued
again?

/sonicD/ said:

> Why does vista lack the ability to select a midi output device? Midi is not
> obsolete, I and many sound artists still use this technology. Microsoft has
> limited output to the GS software synth and not provided an easy way to
> change it in the sound settings. All I was able to do is right click the
> "speakers" and find a midi "about box" for the GS software synth. This is
> unacceptable. Is there a registry hack or some other small program with
> which to change the default output device or is Microsoft going to get sued
> again?

I noted this as well. Some Creative SB cards are bundled with a
Soundfont Manager utility, which may effectively overcome this - or may
not. Unfortunately, it may not work with Vista until after the final
version hits the market. I did get it to load in RC1, but cannot in RC2.

Perhaps others will contribute knowledgeable words to this thread...

Yeah, I was able to load my soundfont manager (AudioHQ) from the original CD
after installing the driver, but I can't select it (the soundcard/font) as an
output in RC1. I have a SB Audigy 1. There should be a place in windows I
can select which soundbank I want. The soundfont manager only loads
something into one of two soundbanks, A or B.

"dev" wrote:

> /sonicD/ said:
>
> > Why does vista lack the ability to select a midi output device? Midi is not
> > obsolete, I and many sound artists still use this technology. Microsoft has
> > limited output to the GS software synth and not provided an easy way to
> > change it in the sound settings. All I was able to do is right click the
> > "speakers" and find a midi "about box" for the GS software synth. This is
> > unacceptable. Is there a registry hack or some other small program with
> > which to change the default output device or is Microsoft going to get sued
> > again?
>
> I noted this as well. Some Creative SB cards are bundled with a
> Soundfont Manager utility, which may effectively overcome this - or may
> not. Unfortunately, it may not work with Vista until after the final
> version hits the market. I did get it to load in RC1, but cannot in RC2.
>
> Perhaps others will contribute knowledgeable words to this thread...
>

I have several USB MIDI keyboards and a tascam US2400 USB control surface..
bith use windows midi built in drivers.. But something has changed recently
in vista RC1.. the midi usb keyboards work fine but the US2400 control
surface does not.. It shows up in device manger as USB audio device, like it
did in XP, but it has an ! over it.. and none of the audio apps recognise it.
There are no drivers needed for this it only uses the built in windows midi..
but they dont work.. only for some things.. what would make it for some usb
devices but not others ??thanks in advance for all the wisdom :-)

This was posted here a week or so ago and the response then
was that you need to contact TASCOM support.

The '!' by the device in the Device Manager indicates the
item needs some type of driver and the source of that will
be TASCOM.

Vista is not Win XP and Win XP is not Vista.


zendik wrote:
> I have several USB MIDI keyboards and a tascam US2400 USB control surface..
> bith use windows midi built in drivers.. But something has changed recently
> in vista RC1.. the midi usb keyboards work fine but the US2400 control
> surface does not.. It shows up in device manger as USB audio device, like it
> did in XP, but it has an ! over it.. and none of the audio apps recognise it.
> There are no drivers needed for this it only uses the built in windows midi..
> but they dont work.. only for some things.. what would make it for some usb
> devices but not others ??thanks in advance for all the wisdom :-)
>

It is kinda odd though, that all versions of Windows accepted the Tascam-2400
with it's standard USB Audio Device driver, and now of a sudden it isn't.

There wasn't ever need for a driver.

Even Mac OS X supports the Tascam-2400 by default.
Driverwise it's just a Midi Hub.

Don't count on Tascam writing a driver for it, it's a discontinued product.

I hope Microsoft offers a solution, this device not working is the only
reason I wouldn't use Vista.

"Theo" wrote:

> This was posted here a week or so ago and the response then
> was that you need to contact TASCOM support.
>
> The '!' by the device in the Device Manager indicates the
> item needs some type of driver and the source of that will
> be TASCOM.
>
> Vista is not Win XP and Win XP is not Vista.
>
>
> zendik wrote:
> > I have several USB MIDI keyboards and a tascam US2400 USB control surface..
> > bith use windows midi built in drivers.. But something has changed recently
> > in vista RC1.. the midi usb keyboards work fine but the US2400 control
> > surface does not.. It shows up in device manger as USB audio device, like it
> > did in XP, but it has an ! over it.. and none of the audio apps recognise it.
> > There are no drivers needed for this it only uses the built in windows midi..
> > but they dont work.. only for some things.. what would make it for some usb
> > devices but not others ??thanks in advance for all the wisdom :-)
> >
>

I have been up on this computer all night looking for the program like they
have on XP Audio manger and guess what there is nothing there been all threw
the programs even called the company that made my laptop they cant even find
the program that should be on vista yes the program is different from XP very
different if you are looking for a program and you think you know where it is
well for get it they named it something else and put it in a different
location have fun looking for programs another thing to contact mirosoft they
are only open during the week days nothing on the weekends they should have
24 hour tech support with this new program that everyone is having so much
problems with if anyone has any answers to find a audio manger on this
program good luck they should of left some of the programs from XP on the new
vista so people would not be having as much problems with getting any of the
programs to work

"NoiZe" wrote:

> It is kinda odd though, that all versions of Windows accepted the Tascam-2400
> with it's standard USB Audio Device driver, and now of a sudden it isn't.
>
> There wasn't ever need for a driver.
>
> Even Mac OS X supports the Tascam-2400 by default.
> Driverwise it's just a Midi Hub.
>
> Don't count on Tascam writing a driver for it, it's a discontinued product.
>
> I hope Microsoft offers a solution, this device not working is the only
> reason I wouldn't use Vista.
>
> "Theo" wrote:
>
> > This was posted here a week or so ago and the response then
> > was that you need to contact TASCOM support.
> >
> > The '!' by the device in the Device Manager indicates the
> > item needs some type of driver and the source of that will
> > be TASCOM.
> >
> > Vista is not Win XP and Win XP is not Vista.
> >
> >
> > zendik wrote:
> > > I have several USB MIDI keyboards and a tascam US2400 USB control surface..
> > > bith use windows midi built in drivers.. But something has changed recently
> > > in vista RC1.. the midi usb keyboards work fine but the US2400 control
> > > surface does not.. It shows up in device manger as USB audio device, like it
> > > did in XP, but it has an ! over it.. and none of the audio apps recognise it.
> > > There are no drivers needed for this it only uses the built in windows midi..
> > > but they dont work.. only for some things.. what would make it for some usb
> > > devices but not others ??thanks in advance for all the wisdom :-)
> > >
> >