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06-09-2009   #1
Daniel


 
 

Please help with hard drive problem

Hi

I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two hard
drives C: and D:

The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.

I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the faster
C: drive

Comparative speeds are

Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec

Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.

Thanks for any help and advice

regards

Daniel


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06-10-2009   #2
Curious


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem

Are they both SATA 300 drives?
Without knowing the details of the Avg Transfer Rate test it is hard to
determine why C does not do as much better then D as it does in the other
two tests which appear to definitely able to take advantage of the faster
RPM.

"Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
> hard drives C: and D:
>
> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>
> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
> faster C: drive
>
> Comparative speeds are
>
> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>
> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>
> Thanks for any help and advice
>
> regards
>
> Daniel
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06-10-2009   #3
Tae Song


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem


"Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
> hard drives C: and D:
>
> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>
> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
> faster C: drive
>
> Comparative speeds are
>
> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>
> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>
> Thanks for any help and advice
>
> regards
>
> Daniel
It might because the bits are bunched together much tighter on the 500GB
drive. The read/write head doesn't have to move as much because there's
more bits per track than on the 150GB.

This also means more bits fly under the read/write head on the 500GB drive
even though it has a lower RPM.

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06-10-2009   #4
Tom Ferguson


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem

Probably, Tae Song put the finger on it. Check the areal density (AKA bit
density) spec of both drives. In general, drives with higher numbers tend to
be capable of greater data transfer speeds given identical conditions
otherwise.

Tom Ferguson

"Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
> hard drives C: and D:
>
> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>
> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
> faster C: drive
>
> Comparative speeds are
>
> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>
> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>
> Thanks for any help and advice
>
> regards
>
> Daniel
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06-10-2009   #5
Daniel


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem

Hi

both are SATA drives, I really do not know how to find out if they are SATA
300

The drives are

C: WDC WD1500ADFD 00NLR5
D: ST 3500830AS, does that mean anything.

In Intel Matrix Storage control it lists the C: WDC drive as
ATA Transfer mode: Generation 1
and the D: Seagate as
ATA Transfer mode: Generation 2

But I have no idea what that refers to, but it worries me because it is
different.

thanks

Daniel

"Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uMj$mId6JHA.1716@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Are they both SATA 300 drives?
> Without knowing the details of the Avg Transfer Rate test it is hard to
> determine why C does not do as much better then D as it does in the other
> two tests which appear to definitely able to take advantage of the faster
> RPM.
>
> "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
>> hard drives C: and D:
>>
>> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
>> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>>
>> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
>> faster C: drive
>>
>> Comparative speeds are
>>
>> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
>> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
>> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>>
>> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
>> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>>
>> Thanks for any help and advice
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Daniel
>
>
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06-10-2009   #6
Curious


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem

As best I can determine the Raptor is a SATA 1.5 (150) and the Seagate is
SATA 3(300) which means that the max transfer rate between the drive and the
PC with the Seagate is twice what is it is with the WD raptor.
Also the number of platters, the number of cylinders per platter and the
number of sectors per cylinder(track) can vary be varied by the drive
manufacturer for drives with the same rated capacity which is why you do not
see these numbers show up in the drive model specs. For example a drive
manufacture may make a 450 GB drive with 3 platters holding 150 GB each or
with one newer designed platter holding 450GB.

"Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eVdk5Qg6JHA.6136@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> both are SATA drives, I really do not know how to find out if they are
> SATA 300
>
> The drives are
>
> C: WDC WD1500ADFD 00NLR5
> D: ST 3500830AS, does that mean anything.
>
> In Intel Matrix Storage control it lists the C: WDC drive as
> ATA Transfer mode: Generation 1
> and the D: Seagate as
> ATA Transfer mode: Generation 2
>
> But I have no idea what that refers to, but it worries me because it is
> different.
>
> thanks
>
> Daniel
>
> "Curious" <spammenot@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uMj$mId6JHA.1716@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Are they both SATA 300 drives?
>> Without knowing the details of the Avg Transfer Rate test it is hard to
>> determine why C does not do as much better then D as it does in the other
>> two tests which appear to definitely able to take advantage of the faster
>> RPM.
>>
>> "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
>>> hard drives C: and D:
>>>
>>> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
>>> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>>>
>>> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
>>> faster C: drive
>>>
>>> Comparative speeds are
>>>
>>> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
>>> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
>>> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>>>
>>> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
>>> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help and advice
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>>
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06-11-2009   #7
Daniel


 
 

Re: Please help with hard drive problem

Thanks Tom

I'll check it out but I guess I cannot say the Hard Drive is faulty
and have it replaced.

cheers

Daniel

"Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:epKRume6JHA.5756@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Probably, Tae Song put the finger on it. Check the areal density (AKA bit
> density) spec of both drives. In general, drives with higher numbers tend
> to be capable of greater data transfer speeds given identical conditions
> otherwise.
>
> Tom Ferguson
>
> "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ukIXaJX6JHA.4872@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> I have a PC with Vista Ultimate, 2.66 CPU and 3 Gb RAM, the PC has two
>> hard drives C: and D:
>>
>> The C: drive is a Raptor 150Gb 10,000 RPM drive and the D: drive is a
>> Seagate 500 Gb 7,200 RPM.
>>
>> I do not believe I am getting the performance speed I should from the
>> faster C: drive
>>
>> Comparative speeds are
>>
>> Avg Transfer Rate - C: 71.0 MB/sec - D: 62.8 MB/sec
>> Access Time - C: 8.5 ms - D: 13.6 ms
>> Burst rate - C: 85.7 MB/sec - D: 102.9 MB/sec
>>
>> Would anyone with knowledge of how Hard Drives are meant to work please
>> comment on these figures, would you say I had a problem.
>>
>> Thanks for any help and advice
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Daniel
>
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