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Copy an ide hard disk

  1. #1


    Scott Guest

    Copy an ide hard disk

    I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy an
    ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to
    accomplish it?

    Thanks,

    Scott


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  3. #2


    Malke Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    Scott wrote:

    > I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    > an
    > ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to
    > accomplish it?
    An imaging program will do it. I use Acronis True Image but there are
    others.

    Malke
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  4. #3


    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    Hi, Scott.

    Depending on the many facts you didn't tell us, it can be as simple as using
    Windows Explorer's Copy command - or as complex as a third-party
    application, as Malke said.

    If this is your only disk on your only PC, then follow her instructions. If
    you have multiple drives and are dual-booting several Windows versions, post
    back with more details and we'll try to help.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@xxxxxx
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

    "Scott" <NoSpam-Scott.Xe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    > an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea
    > to accomplish it?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Scott

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  5. #4


    Dominic Payer Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    If you open the case there may be a spare IDE connector, or you could
    temporarily disconnect any IDE optical drives.

    Otherwise, you need an external USB to IDE adaptor or a USB/IDE external
    enclosure if you want repeat access to the drive.


    On 27/06/2009 12:32, Scott wrote:

    > I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    > an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea
    > to accomplish it?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Scott

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    Scott Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    "Dominic Payer" <dcp@xxxxxx> 在郵件
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    > If you open the case there may be a spare IDE connector, or you could
    > temporarily disconnect any IDE optical drives.
    >
    > Otherwise, you need an external USB to IDE adaptor or a USB/IDE external
    > enclosure if you want repeat access to the drive.
    >
    >
    > On 27/06/2009 12:32, Scott wrote:

    >> I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    >> an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea
    >> to accomplish it?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Scott
    Norton Ghost does not support removable media so usb/ide is now workable
    solution.

    Scott


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    Scott Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> 在郵件
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    > Scott wrote:
    >

    >> I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    >> an
    >> ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea to
    >> accomplish it?
    >
    > An imaging program will do it. I use Acronis True Image but there are
    > others.
    >
    > Malke
    > --
    > MS-MVP
    > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
    >
    I have Norton Ghost but it does not support removable media. How can I
    connect the old and new drives with the pc?

    Scott


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    Scott Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> 在郵件
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    > Hi, Scott.
    >
    > Depending on the many facts you didn't tell us, it can be as simple as
    > using Windows Explorer's Copy command - or as complex as a third-party
    > application, as Malke said.
    >
    > If this is your only disk on your only PC, then follow her instructions.
    > If you have multiple drives and are dual-booting several Windows versions,
    > post back with more details and we'll try to help.
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@xxxxxx
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
    >
    > "Scott" <NoSpam-Scott.Xe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:#ZGxrrx9JHA.200@xxxxxx

    >> I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    >> an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any idea
    >> to accomplish it?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Scott
    >
    Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on
    Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide hard
    disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop and
    think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive connection on
    my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task. Any other
    idea?

    Scott


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    Malke Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    Scott wrote:
    Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on

    > Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide
    > hard
    > disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop and
    > think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive connection
    > on
    > my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the task. Any other
    > idea?
    Suggestions:

    1. Put both the IDE drives into USB external drive cases;
    2. or attach internally to your computer if you have the connections on your
    motherboard;
    3. or use SATA-to-IDE adapter(s) to the motherboard;
    4. or use a specialized drive adapter(s) like this one:
    http://www.newertech.com/products/usb2_adapt.php

    If you are using such an old version of Norton Ghost that it won't support
    USB, replace it with a modern imaging program that does. I use the
    enterprise version of Acronis True Image Echo because I'm a computer tech,
    but you can buy the home version of TI for as little as $35. Here are a few
    examples:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nis+true+image

    You need the tools to accomplish the job.

    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ


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    R. C. White Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    Hi, Scott.

    See? A few more details got you a lot more advice. ;^}

    I have only one computer and never had a laptop. But since I've been
    dual-booting for a decade and beta-tested both Vista and Win7, my several
    HDDs have over a dozen partitions and logical drives. So I've had some
    experience with copying whole volumes - both data volumes and boot volumes.

    My favorite tool for whole-volume copying is Xcopy.exe, even though
    Microsoft is replacing it with RoboCopy. Xcopy won't work very well to move
    the current boot volume, but it has no qualms about moving the boot volume
    for any Windows version that is not the current OS. And, of course, there's
    no problem with copying data files. So, if you can arrange the physical
    connection of your IDE drive to the intended destination drive, then just
    boot into the Windows of your choice (WinXP, Vista, Win7 - doesn't matter)
    on any volume other than the targets. Then, open an Administrator:Command
    Prompt window and enter:
    C:>Xcopy I:\*.* S:\ /c /h /e /r /k

    Where C: is your current boot volume, I: is your IDE source volume, and S:
    is your SATA target drive. Enter Xcopy /? to see a mini-Help file listing
    the parameters available with Xcopy. The ones I've suggested have always
    worked for me in copying a complete boot volume. (As you probably know, the
    "boot volume" is not the one used to boot the computer, but is the one
    holding the boot folder, \Windows, with all the gigabytes of files and
    folders for the operating system, as defined in KB 314470, "Definitions for
    system volume and boot volume",
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.../314470/EN-US/ .)

    This should copy the entire volume, but it will NOT copy the MBR and boot
    sector, since those are not files. You will need to use disk utilities
    (FixMBR, bootcfg. etc.) if you need to deal with those.

    And Xcopy is included with every copy of Windows - even Win7 RC. No need to
    buy anything else. ;<)

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@xxxxxx
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

    "Scott" <NoSpam-Scott.Xe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> 在郵件
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    >> Hi, Scott.
    >>
    >> Depending on the many facts you didn't tell us, it can be as simple as
    >> using Windows Explorer's Copy command - or as complex as a third-party
    >> application, as Malke said.
    >>
    >> If this is your only disk on your only PC, then follow her instructions.
    >> If you have multiple drives and are dual-booting several Windows
    >> versions, post back with more details and we'll try to help.
    >>
    >> RC
    >>
    >> "Scott" <NoSpam-Scott.Xe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:#ZGxrrx9JHA.200@xxxxxx

    >>> I have a desktop pc that is using sata hard disks. I would like to copy
    >>> an ide hard disk to a larger one using the desktop pc. Is there any
    >>> idea to accomplish it?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>>
    >>> Scott
    >>
    >
    > Probably, I did not describe the issue clearly. My computer is working on
    > Vista Premium and support 2 sata drives. Now I need to copy an old ide
    > hard disk to a larger one for my laptop pc. I cannot do it on my laptop
    > and think to use my desktop pc. However, I do not have ide drive
    > connection on my desktop pc and insufficient drives to accomplish the
    > task. Any other idea?
    >
    > Scott

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    Scott Guest

    Re: Copy an ide hard disk

    "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> 在郵件
    news:e4mJ0Z69JHA.1376@xxxxxx *撰寫...

    > Hi, Scott.
    >
    > See? A few more details got you a lot more advice. ;^}
    >
    > I have only one computer and never had a laptop. But since I've been
    > dual-booting for a decade and beta-tested both Vista and Win7, my several
    > HDDs have over a dozen partitions and logical drives. So I've had some
    > experience with copying whole volumes - both data volumes and boot
    > volumes.
    >
    > My favorite tool for whole-volume copying is Xcopy.exe, even though
    > Microsoft is replacing it with RoboCopy. Xcopy won't work very well to
    > move the current boot volume, but it has no qualms about moving the boot
    > volume for any Windows version that is not the current OS. And, of
    > course, there's no problem with copying data files. So, if you can
    > arrange the physical connection of your IDE drive to the intended
    > destination drive, then just boot into the Windows of your choice (WinXP,
    > Vista, Win7 - doesn't matter) on any volume other than the targets. Then,
    > open an Administrator:Command Prompt window and enter:
    > C:>Xcopy I:\*.* S:\ /c /h /e /r /k
    >
    > Where C: is your current boot volume, I: is your IDE source volume, and S:
    > is your SATA target drive. Enter Xcopy /? to see a mini-Help file listing
    > the parameters available with Xcopy. The ones I've suggested have always
    > worked for me in copying a complete boot volume. (As you probably know,
    > the "boot volume" is not the one used to boot the computer, but is the one
    > holding the boot folder, \Windows, with all the gigabytes of files and
    > folders for the operating system, as defined in KB 314470, "Definitions
    > for system volume and boot volume",
    > http://support.microsoft.com/default.../314470/EN-US/ .)
    >
    > This should copy the entire volume, but it will NOT copy the MBR and boot
    > sector, since those are not files. You will need to use disk utilities
    > (FixMBR, bootcfg. etc.) if you need to deal with those.
    >
    > And Xcopy is included with every copy of Windows - even Win7 RC. No need
    > to buy anything else. ;<)
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@xxxxxx
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
    >

    Hi RC,

    The Xcopy seems very useful. Thank for your advice! However, it cannot
    copy the MBR and boot sector, it is important to know it does not fit for my
    upgrade to larger hard disk.

    Scott


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