Vista - ATI x1800xl black screens

K, got a question, still experiencing constant black random screens of death
for no apparent reason. I look in control panel..problem reports....see
problems to check...and see 42 "video hardware errors" listed..all the same
with this info..I'm guessing this is the cause of my probs, but dont know
why on vista rtm..tried both built in and ati rtm drivers, still the same
probs..any ideas? Here's the error info it says:


Description
A problem with your video hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 4105

Files that help describe the problem
WD-20061115-1219-01.dmp
sysdata.xml
Version.txt

View a temporary copy of these files
Warning: If a virus or other security threat caused the problem, opening a
copy of the files could harm your computer.

Extra information about the problem
BCCode: 117
BCP1: 863F3C00
BCP2: 8AB01814
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000000
OS Version: 6_0_6000
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

I was getting black screens at the startup with my Mobility Radeon x1400 but
I did an update to Ati's latest driver
http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/v...n-vista32.html
and the problems disappeared, but then again I'm still using RC1.


"Daniel Lapointe" wrote:

> K, got a question, still experiencing constant black random screens of death
> for no apparent reason. I look in control panel..problem reports....see
> problems to check...and see 42 "video hardware errors" listed..all the same
> with this info..I'm guessing this is the cause of my probs, but dont know
> why on vista rtm..tried both built in and ati rtm drivers, still the same
> probs..any ideas? Here's the error info it says:
>
>
> Description
> A problem with your video hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.
>
> Problem signature
> Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
> OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
> Locale ID: 4105
>
> Files that help describe the problem
> WD-20061115-1219-01.dmp
> sysdata.xml
> Version.txt
>
> View a temporary copy of these files
> Warning: If a virus or other security threat caused the problem, opening a
> copy of the files could harm your computer.
>
> Extra information about the problem
> BCCode: 117
> BCP1: 863F3C00
> BCP2: 8AB01814
> BCP3: 00000000
> BCP4: 00000000
> OS Version: 6_0_6000
> Service Pack: 0_0
> Product: 256_1
>

I've got the same problem with my x1600 pro 512MB card.
Same errors, appears random. Windows keeps running in my case but i
just can't see a thinganymore. When i shut down my pc en reboot the
problem is gone again. It happens faster when playing movies. en a bit
less if i turn aeroglass off.


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Sounds like either your power supply is not big enough or the card is
overheating since the more load you place on the card the sooner the problem
occurs.

"DblFun" <DblFun.2hflfj@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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> I've got the same problem with my x1600 pro 512MB card.
> Same errors, appears random. Windows keeps running in my case but i
> just can't see a thinganymore. When i shut down my pc en reboot the
> problem is gone again. It happens faster when playing movies. en a bit
> less if i turn aeroglass off.
>
>
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It's not overheating, in fact it's very cool. Running everest ultimate, and
temp probes are showing the card as still being very cool, and the power
supply is 550, so definately not that either. As I mentioned earlier, it ran
flawlessly in xp, so it's definately only vista related.

"JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Sounds like either your power supply is not big enough or the card is
> overheating since the more load you place on the card the sooner the
> problem occurs.
>
> "DblFun" <DblFun.2hflfj@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> newsblFun.2hflfj@DoNotSpam.com...
>>
>> I've got the same problem with my x1600 pro 512MB card.
>> Same errors, appears random. Windows keeps running in my case but i
>> just can't see a thinganymore. When i shut down my pc en reboot the
>> problem is gone again. It happens faster when playing movies. en a bit
>> less if i turn aeroglass off.
>>
>>
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>
>

I already wen't from a 360watt to a 400watt powersupply.

My configuration is:

Amd athlon 64 x2 dual core
ati radeon x1600 pro 512
250GB SATA maxtor HD
80GB IDE Seagate HD
2 DVD players
1 diskdrive

Under windows XP i've never experienced any problems.

How big should my power supply be according to you?


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Certainly a 550 PS is adequate I am not sure about a 400 for DblFun's system
however since it depends on the power requiements of all of the components
of your system and there is not a good way to measure the load without a
power meter and of course the power requirements vary depending on the what
the system is doing at any point in time.
It is hard to tell if the problem is Vista related or VISTA ATI driver
related or Vista MCE compatible MPEG2 Decoder related if processing video.
I don't have your origional post so I don't know what release of Vista your
are running or what ATI driver release or what decoder you are using.
Are there any event log entries that might provide a clue?


"Daniel Lapointe" <danlapointe@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
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> It's not overheating, in fact it's very cool. Running everest ultimate,
> and
> temp probes are showing the card as still being very cool, and the power
> supply is 550, so definately not that either. As I mentioned earlier, it
> ran
> flawlessly in xp, so it's definately only vista related.
>
> "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:uFhmO6nCHHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Sounds like either your power supply is not big enough or the card is
>> overheating since the more load you place on the card the sooner the
>> problem occurs.
>>
>> "DblFun" <DblFun.2hflfj@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> newsblFun.2hflfj@DoNotSpam.com...
>>>
>>> I've got the same problem with my x1600 pro 512MB card.
>>> Same errors, appears random. Windows keeps running in my case but i
>>> just can't see a thinganymore. When i shut down my pc en reboot the
>>> problem is gone again. It happens faster when playing movies. en a bit
>>> less if i turn aeroglass off.
>>>
>>>
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>>> DblFun
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>> View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?t=625787
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>>>
>>
>>
>

I just had another crash, my theme is set to classic. When the error
appeared i got my screen back after a few seconds but very very slow. I
disabled my display adapter in the device manager. en then reenabled it.
Now windows is working fine again. The problem must abolutely be a
driver problem.


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It happens with BOTH the built in ati driver, and the ati rtm driver from
ati's site. And the crashes are always random black screens. I out in my old
ati x550 to test, and it works flawlessly. If I put the x1800xl (non-all in
wonder version) back in, the problems happen again. It's not the hardware
itself of the card, as it works flawlessly in XP never a crash or anything
even under intense gaming, etc. SO yup, it's definately vista's drivers or
some bug in the way the driver is written for this model card.


"DblFun" <DblFun.2hfwjt@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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> I just had another crash, my theme is set to classic. When the error
> appeared i got my screen back after a few seconds but very very slow. I
> disabled my display adapter in the device manager. en then reenabled it.
> Now windows is working fine again. The problem must abolutely be a
> driver problem.
>
>
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I'm running vista rtm happens with both the old one (original) and the
new rtm beta drivers from ati.


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